30 Days Of Dead - November 27th
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You know your Ables from your Bakers from your C's, but can your finely tuned ears differentiate the cosmic "comeback" tour from a spacey 70's show? Each day we'll post a free download from one of the Dead's coveted shows. Will it be from that magical night at Madison Square Garden in '93 or from way back when they were just starting to warm it up at Winterland? Is that Pigpen's harmonica we hear? Brent on keys? Step right up and try your hand.
Each day, the first person to guess the venue & date correctly will get a Road Trips of their choice. If you’re not first but you've answered correctly, you will also be automatically entered for a weekly prize of THE WARNER BROTHERS STUDIO ALBUMS VINYL BOX (EXCLUSIVE EDITION) or a FORMERLY THE WARLOCKS boxed set. Log in now and enter to win! - Less Info
I'm specifically thinking about 11-10-85 at the Meadowlands, coming out of UJB, which they could include, I wouldn't mind :). '85 has not been represented, and why not make one of the 30 songs a jam, since those were our favorite parts of the show anyway?
Mark Pinkus also hinted that we may see some sort of epic Europe 72 release next year. Not sure about it, but it could be the Lyceum shows.
is that I've gone through some stuff I haven't listened to in a long while (tapes, CDs, Archive) and found some gems I hadn't visited in a while. "Bear's Choice: History of The Grateful Dead Vol. 1" for example. Katie Mae? Played live only 10 times! Man... it don't get much better than that.
That was way to hard. Who would have those tapes/disc or who could have remember it....
I'm right there with you, but have been trying to keep my innate negativity under control. Some people are very happy to have another one of the 18 or so versions of "Mason's", even if it means one of Scarlet/Fire, Brokedown, Bird Song or Stella got bumped. Which one probably did since I listed four songs and there's only three days left.
this has been one helluva ride. Maybe the folks putting this together had some notion that there would be the onslaught of "what about" comments and have some plans in store for us. I agree with Helena...after spending oodles of money on the wondrous beast called The Grateful Dead (and certainly will spend more - I like the 60s Dead a lot!!) I think a few bones tossed every now and again should be welcomed praised and of course, danced to. If we would help each other out at the shows, and I thank the many who helped me out, we should work with each other here. Scarlet>Fire would rock but I am still hoping for that incredulous Scarlet>Grey>Fire. That would be a nice one for the 29th. And I will be making many versions of these songs into "sets", CDs, and playlists.
Ya, Ya, I was at that show; not the greatest night of all time, but I always, secretly dug Supplication, and I never thought I would see it. In the end I felt a little blessed.
To here it sweat, and all cleaned up would be a serious flashback.
what i'm about to say. Mason's Children? Really? With 3 days left in the month? Not to be a bit ungrateful but who went to shows saying, "I hope they bust out Mason's Children?" Nobody. Millions including myself drove, flew, swam, hopped, skipped, and jumped, summersalted, and even backflipped thousands upon thousands of miles over a span of 30 years for the Morning Dew, Terrapin, Scarlet>Fire, Stella Blue, Jack Straw, Half Step, Eyes, Bertha, Stranger, Big River, Foolish Heart, Promised Land, Brokedown Palace, 1 More Saturday, Wharf Rat, Peggy-O, GDTRFB, Attics, Bird Song, Crazy Fingers, Stagger Lee, Looks Like Rain, Row Jimmy, Box Of Rain, Victim, and even Long Way To Go Home for the ones who for some reason were just jonsin' for a Vince tune haha. Mason's Children? I'll be the first to admit, i don't get it.
...I will probably just toss these on a DVD and not worry about arranging stuff, if I ever bother burning them to disc at all. I've been numbering the files as I d/l'd, and if I want to shuffle them up whatever player I end up getting will do that automagically with the press of a button. Until then this computer and the flash drive I've been backing them up on will have to do. Can't see trying to arrange them into a "show", for that way lies madness!
OK, I might also do a sort chronologically by performance date, but THAT'S IT. I swear.
I completely and wholeheartedly agree with what you say in your post, being an ex marketing manager, I don't understand why they would promise free music if you buy a years worth of releases, don't they know that they have a vault full of the best music in the world? Don't they know that the faithful will beat a path to their door if they do release the classic shows? I don't need lame incentives to buy dead music, just release it all, make it all downloadable, or every quarter, release some of those most revered shows and stop with the "incentives"... which in this case would just give them an idea of how many to print, if there is a demand for certain shows, release them....Free the Jams
That's even lamer, err, more lame. Let them have $100ish bucks to play with for a whole year, and they will give you a bonus disc (of unknown material) and an unknown show, followed every three months or so by another unknown show.
Sorry pal, can't see it happening, not unless there's a substantial discount involved as well. I can see the numbers looking good for somebody's quarterly bonus check calculation, for that first one at least.
Here's an idea: instead of relying on fancy marketing schemes how about consistently delivering a quality product at a reasonable price in a timely fashion, with reliably knowledgeable and helpful customer service. Dare to be different!
Anybody know if the Garcia Family Trust is locked into the same agreement with Rhino that GDP is?
looks like both versions of Easy Wind were already on CD - 'A' being added to workingmans dead... - its cool
I'm always wrong, after all. But I seriously doubt they're gonna repeat a song.
Lazy Lightning/Supplication is closer to a "suite" than just a couple of songs that usually got played together frequently. Lazy Lightning was always followed by Supplication, but Supplication got played on its own a number of times (since I did the math LOL). So: Supplication.
I'll even give you the date: Shoreline 5/22/93. Most of the other Supplications were "Supplication Jams" and integrated into runs of other songs (please TPTB don't mangle up transitions just to isolate a song). This is the only one I could find that was an "individual", not already released...it was the first "Supplication" after a long hiatus...and was at a cool venue that hasn't been represented yet. Just listened to the archive.org cuts and it's nice and jangly, even if Bobby kinda half-asses on the lyrics.
There you go. I have logically ensured that this will NOT be the next song. Bwahahahahahahahahaha.
iPods, feh. Better be backing up that data on something removable, just sayin'. I've got this big long cord with a stereo miniplug at one end that splits into left and right channel RCA plugs at the other end. My amplifier thinks its a phonograph, but it's not. It's my COMPUTER you silly amp, and my big honking speakers sound just fine with decent MP3s or FLAC tripping in, thank you very much.
I'd been hoping for the monster 12/28/69 version, too, but this is better because I've never heard it and though it's rather short it's VERY sweet. Love both of Jerry's solos.
If it's the one I guessed it was, it completes a fine suite that I had the rest of!
I hadn't thought of Brokedown ~ that would make a nice closer, indeed.
Scarlet->Fire, Stella, China Doll, Crazy Fingers.....Lazy Lightning, Black-Throated, Bucket, Throwin -> Not Fade Away....Box of Rain, Unbroken Chain, Mindbender.....CAUTION.....
A Blow Away would've been nice, but I doubt that's forthcoming this late in the game.
how about an early acoustic Uncle Johns Band next?
Interesting idea, I was hoping it would be more like a weekly/monthly download, this 30 Days has to be in preparation for something. Right now all the downloads are on nugs.net, bring them home to dead.net. I plan to keep buying all the RT's releases (as long as a paycheck keeps coming anyway), but would definitely want to know the dates/shows before giving anyone hard earned money.
I am of half a mind (many friends would same I am being over generous there) to run this simply as given - just Nov 1 - 30. I have not sat down and seen how that cuts, though. I hate to have short discs...
Oh, yeah, I agree, Audacity works real well.
To be clear, I think the bonus disc is just one disc that you get when you purchase the subscription. It is my understanding that there still might be bonus discs for each of the Road Trips(like they have been doing)...Not sure, though...
Sorry to post this here, but I think this is where the Heads are currently congregating. What is the second chord in the bridge of Althea? I can't find the right answer online at any tab sites and I am stumped. Anyone know?
and by the way.
Why would you put these on CD? The form we have is MP3. You'd lose out on sound quality right. Your better off just playing your computer of iPod through your stereo. GD music taught me this.
When I by CD's from Dead.net, I put them on my iPod so I can have all my music with me wherever I go. But, when I really want to rock out, I play the CD through my big system and it sounds epic. I need that.
Taking something that started as MP3 and burning it to CD has never satisfied me. It's pointless. I have done much experimentation with this and the effect is most noticeable with live GD music. With other music like maybe HipHop or Metal, you would never notice. These GD recordings have such subtlety. On your iPod, you can sort them whatever way you feel like that day and change it the next. If you need to backup, just put it on a DVDROM.
Although, I do actually enjoy the discussion of how the songs wound be organized on a traditional release. Not something I would ever bother doing.
Still don't know if I'd buy them without knowing the dates ahead of time, and how they're gonna break the show up on the discs, and what is on the "bonus disc". There's a lot of perfectly good soundboards out there that escaped before they locked down archive.org.
You can certainly tell when accountants get involved, That's a total bullshit "cash flow enhancement" scheme, get a bunch of money in hand early for a small outlay in the cost of producing bonus discs every few months. At least the old way (which I didn't really have a problem with) you knew what you were getting when you gave them your money a month or so early.
I can see that coming back to bite them on the butt.
Oh well, I guess that's why God created torrents ;^D
...until somebody expresses an opinion.
I don't think it is "looking a gift horse in the mouth" to not be falling down ecstatic over every particular song choice just because it's being made available for free - especially since it's being made available for free by a company that has cut off sources of music that was already being made available for free. I think that given the thousands of dollars I have spent on this band and their music I have bought and paid for the right not to have to kiss some corporation's butt for throwing me a bone, or at least the right to not agree with the selection of this particular song over the tens of thousands of other possible choices (and I am *easily* as capable of "doing the math" as you, I'm sure). I realize, and have already stated here that there are folks out there who probably creamed in their jeans for this tune. Good for them, I am sincerely happy for them but I'm not one of 'em, and being cursed with a "glass half empty" outlook on life in general I can't help but wonder what awesome song(s) got bumped in favor of this one.
There's a reason the band only performed this song less than twenty times, and then only for a period of three months only to drop it and never play it again for over a quarter of a century. I don't know for sure what that reason is, but it probably wasn't so they could create a rare, treasured item for future generations. I wonder if it's because they didn't particularly enjoy playing it as much as other songs in their repertoire. I would have preferred to have seen some other tasty nugget that the band really enjoyed playing for years and years, and that's not already adequately represented in available releases (the DP4 and Philzone versions of this song are both way better, in my humble if whiny opinion). So sue me for being an ungrateful wretch. I'm certainly not going to get my panties in too tight of a wad over *you* expressing *your* opinion.
My picks (knowing that it pretty much puts a CURSE on these selections LOL)
"Alabama Getaway" or "Brokedown Palace"
"And We Bid You Goodnight"
...repeat of LIG...
I am gonna burn them as one long show. In the order they were given to us. I have copied and pasted all the descriptions, as they were provided, onto a word document as well as copied pictures that have been included (thanks CC, and all those that have done so!) I am also picking out some more colorful comments and opinions for each song! I am compiling a sweet little stocking stuffer for some of the kids out there that have been particuarly Kind this year! Gonna help me out a lot in these economic times.... O well, "Nail a re-tread to my feet and pray for better weather" Wish they hs spell check here!
I think they've done a great job of mixing often-played favorites with interesting tunes that are further off the beaten path. It's been a great mix of performances from various eras, too. I've got no complaints about the freebie tracks they've chosen, and I can't imagine that I'll be disappointed with the last 3 days.
...that Katie Mae on Bear's Choice is class-ic. Truest sense of the word...boy was I happy when they included another Fillmore East version on the recent May '70 RT. Very nice...you are not wrong ronmarley1...
Here is tomorrow's clue (and, so sorry for the delay, we got distracted by very delicious turkey tacos...): This Weir/Barlow tune is part of a suite.
already have a Let it Grow
what is the other suite?
Huh it's been a long day
...we are due for The Other One...
It's not The Other One. Barlow wasn't around that early. I didn't see any other obvious choices among the Weir/Barlow tunes.
Is that considered a suite (I mean LL>Supplication, of course)?
Would they give us a Weather Report without LIG
a little odd
Would they give us a Weather Report without LIG
a little odd
I've been numbering these by day in front of the song title, and adding date to the back end of the title. And making a disc (or, at least a playlist for one) whenever a disc's worth adds up. Unless two of the next three tunes are 30-minute jams, I think it's safe to say they will fill out my disc 5 in progress and hence I've got a companion box to So Many Roads. Disc 4 is busting at the seams, but the rest are kind of reasonable (I put He's Gone A in its proper place on disc 2, and He's Gone B at the end of that same disc).
I'm with Helena, reorganizing them in any other way but possibly chronological would be madness (for me). Of course, if I went chronological, I'd then want to marry these bits up with other orphans, which would mean reburning existing "stray " discs I've made.... Madness, again.
So in conclusion, it's rather likely I'll just stick with the 30 Days as presented.
I used to have a tape (many of you probably know it) of '73 studio rehearsals that had (in addition to full-band run-throughs of Unbroken Chain & Pride of Cucamonga) a Jerry-sung version of 30 Days. That would be fun, even though Chuck Berry would probably want a half-million dollars for it. And (love ya, Chuck, but) Brokedown or Box would still be better...!
Lazy lightning might make sense, but I got'a have the Supplication with it baby!
I will gladly take whatever the music gods send down for me.
Wait, Barlow only gets credit for LIG, not the rest of the suite.
My brain is mush. What the hell is a suite anyway.
For some reason when I read your post I thought of 2 songs not by the Dead, but related to the Dead in a Kevin Bacon sorta way. 1.) Caroline no (based on the subject line) by the Beach Boys and 2.) Suite: Judy Blue Eyes by CSNY (based on ('What the hell is a suite anyway') Gettin' to be nearer time for bed for me...
Hopefully Lazy Lightning/ Supplication (always smoking), unless it's simply a Prelude/Weather Report Part 1.....can't imagine that.
Can't be The Other One, that one's all Bobby on the lyrics.....
...I'll probably do some playlist arranging in Winamp at some point, but with the song cutoffs of varying quality the transitions will always be abrupt, I think.
In the binders I keep my albums (or their backup copies) in I've got the vault releases interspersed among the studio releases in chronological order of performance, but I keep the Dicks Picks and Road Trips arranged in order of release - but I do have a spreadsheet with all my Deadish music entered with release and performance dates, venues etc so I can sort everything by performance date or whatever, and at some point I'll probably enter all the songs on the varying albums in as well. To hear the evolution of a particular song over the years, you know.
Obviously I have too much free time, and should probably get out more LOL.
....the lysergic lyrics, I should embellish.
I keep spreadsheets, too!
(once again, an obsession but it's pleasin'...!)
...attributes the lyrics to Other One to Bobby and Billy, I think, right or wrong as it may be. I don't do facebook, but doesn't the hint imply that it's not going to be the complete suite? In that case, wouldn't that leave Supplication as the sole possibility, barring the repeat of LIG, since they never performed a standalone Lightnin' but did a few standalone Supp's?
Good thought, I'll be checking a dictionary next.
it it just some songs strung together? Any Dead tune could be that.
Adding to my value as an employee, plus it made me look busy at work while I was waiting for idiots to return phone calls, back in the day. LMAO.
...or linked passages in a first set could often be thought of as a suite. The HC SUN>CHINA>RIDER from 2-17-73 might be considered a (unique) suite. When the segues flow and are not abrupt, I'd be more apt to call them a suite. Oftentimes, the movements in a suite are related closely in terms of Key - like D and A Major - - or F and D minor etc. This discussion probably would be more appropriate in the forums, but it's the kind of subject I particularly dig.