The hint today made it fairly easy to figure out, especially if you know the year they debut those songs not many options on this combo a dozen years after it debut
It's nice to get a softball this morning. I can go back to sleep in peace now. It's cool to hear a Mind Left Body Jam in this show. I can spend all day checking out setlists from these guys.
I'll have to check that out, WildBill. This show is unfamiliar to me. Easy to find, but again the question of venue name. I've got two sources telling me one thing and another telling me something slightly different. Yesterday I went with the campus gymnasium. It's fitting though, isn't it, for a touring band that probably didn't know where they were most of the time lol!
anyone else getting a cut at the four minute mark about 10 seconds of silence. its not like that on the archive version?
Mute button or whatever active for a few secs during transfer/upload? I checked a few other SBD's and none have the break.
Yes the download from today has "DEAD AIR" from 3:58 to 4:09 but the SBD on archive.org doesn't have it,so I'm assuming it's an issue with the uploading of the song from dead.net
The posters, stubs and passes don't even match up....
Quality video of this show on youtube
of a song on 30 Days for GSET, joining Liberty, Rubin and Cherise, and Throwing Stones. What a kaleidoscope of colours the Dead explored!
Man, these hints are getting really specific! This is the kind of hint I need on a Tuesday morning when I'm trying to work and figure these things out at the same time. On a Saturday morning with coffee I have time to burn and enjoy the search. Took about 2 minutes!
Definitely transitioning into one of the lowest points of the Dead's live performances imho...
Archive version doesn’t cut out at the 4:00 mark, but this one does for some reason
is the word which comes to mind regarding yesterday's AND today's selections. Yesterday lame because the venue choice is not only NOT a venue, but because it is WRONG. And today lame, because who wants to download a track with an almost 10 second drop out in the middle, free or not. What's up DeadNet? Better get your flu shot this year, you're looking under the weather.
Change the channel then
It must be a uploading issue from Dead.net because the Charlie Miller SBD on Archive.org doesn't have the 10 second gap
Great show. Plenty here that will interest you. I may give Brent MVP, but everyone’s cookin’.
I think this show is/was on my birthday!
I'm certain I've chosen the correct venue/date/songs. I am also certain that the track put forth by DeadNet certainly doesn't match up correctly with the correct answer for today. Fortunately, there's no audio dropout during Charlie Miller's Bertha recording. Still consider myself batting 1000 this year.
01/17/69 (Fri) unknown venue - Santa Barbara, CA
Set 1: Lovelight, Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Death Don't Have No Mercy, Cryptical Envelopment > The Other One > Cryptical Envelopment > Cosmic Charlie
It's fun watching Weir leap around in the video of this show, especially the during the opener.
and decide what the official source for the venue name is. Since Archive.org isn't all that accurate and even dead.net/archive didn't provide the winning answer for yesterday, then shouldn't Deadbase be the final official source? But then any edition before DB50 could be wrong too without the latest corrections. Maybe....since many of the songs have been way too easy for the dates, the venue is the real challenge....except when it comes down to just a 'roll of those laughin' bones'
If they ever repair it, please post. As for now, I've already tagged and edited it for my purposes.
Did they ever get back to repairing the 10/20/74 Winterland China>Rider from several years ago that had the static?
No, that China>Rider was never fixed. ;-( Too bad, too. It's one of my faves!
BTW, I sent a note to Mary, the web host, about the gap in today's Bertha. Will let you know if I hear anything. Hopefully, she'll respond here to everyone.
Seems to me the game is about identifying the date of the performance. Whether the venue matches...well that's just silly isn't it?
After the contestant picks the date, why not just SHOW the venue, as opposed to having another pick to make, which in some cases is kinda arbitrary (the many variations of Oakland Auditorium) and as @Drae pointed out below, sometimes WRONG.
Yes, it's free tunes and the fun is in the finding and discovery of new shows. But a game, any game, can be less fun if the ref makes shitty calls right?
It's pointless to make Venue part of a correct answer IMHO.
The Dead played multiple venues on the same day in the early years for sure so thats why they need the date and venue.
clearly the song duo was in the Robertson Gym according to several people there and the poster advertising the one of three shows that day for the gym but posters and memories can be hazy
Someone else said it, but bears repeating, if you get the date right, why should we even be having to pick the venue? I went with Robertson based on what is shown on dead.net and the posters.
I'm going with Robertson Gym in honor of my childhood sweetheart Gina "Robertson" and (this is what sealed the deal) her dog "Charlie" !!!
The vintage poster of this show in Santa Barbara two days before advertised the show in Robertson Gym clearly not unknown venue. oh well glitches happen
Is this on the UCSB campus?
My brain is boiling and my reason is spent
That's why if you please , I am on my bended knees
Pick me for Pacific NW 1973
So I was going through my past years of 30 days of dead and I found something that confuses me so the 2016 that I downloaded has song 15 Scarlet>Touch>Fire as happening on 7/12/84 Deadbase 50 Has no show listed for the 12th,they played this combo the next day in Berkeley ,but Jambase list this song as happening on 7/3/84,but song 1 of 30 days 2014 is the Scarlet>Touch>Fire from 7/3/84 so I'm wondering if the 2016 version is a repeat or if its actually the show from Berkeley,any help would be great thanks!
I believe they are both from 7/3/84.
double post: I guess there's a first time for everything!
Okay Thanks I wasn't sure because the timming for the 2014 one is 29:31 and the 2016 one is 29:23 maybe I should listen to the version from the 13th and see if it matches the 2016 version,because it seems odd that Dave would put the exact same song out,but anything is possible,maybe I should send him a tweet and ask him
Both versions will match, because they are both 7/3/84.
Not sure what you mean about "it seems odd that Dave would put the exact same song out,but anything is possible,maybe I should send him a tweet and ask him." Not sure when you first checked in with 30 DoD, but there have been multiple repeats over the years. Yes, of the exact same song/show. Sometimes there's been a repeat hooked up w/other songs, but mostly just an actual repeat. And btw, the timings don't always match exactly.
In a quick skim of the years, I see roughly 11 repeats. This matters to some, and not to others. To me . . . que sera sera. I just love the fun of the search, being with y'all, and LISTENING!!!
This is my first year doing it by the day, Google music had a couple of the years and the years not on google have had links posted here and elsewhere for previous years,what I meant by odd is they say the songs are unreleased versions,so If it was released in 2014 then the 2016 version isn't unreleased,but thanks for clarifying it for the noob
Yep, makes sense you'd think that. The first repeat was in 2013 and I remember we all wondered the same thing. Now I guess I realize it just happens sometimes, so I'm used to it. And always grateful for it all!!
and . . .Welcome to the gang!
Thanks! been a fan a long time,just never knew about 30 Days until recently but it's good to know that there is a possibly of repeats,like I would have assumed that anything with a date from 1972 wouldn't be from Europe since all those shows have been released,but Now I see that they could come from Europe,they really shouldn't say previously unreleased versions if not all are previously unreleased,but whatever I'm just GRATEFUL to get free music for my collection
I have posted on this subject a few times. We've had three songs this year that previously were released on 30 Days, two entire repeats (Doin' That Rag 4/25/69, and Lazy Lightning>Supplication 9/30/76) and one in combo with a previously unreleased song (UJB 12/28/88). This brings the total to 12 repeats: 10 stand-alones and 2 in combo.
If you don't keep track, the repeats won't even occur to you. Even if they do, we'll get over it.
I'd say just listen to them though. My timings aren't going to be the same as the initial downloads because I tend to do some minor editing at the beginning and end. I also add fade ins and outs most times.
As with prior posts noting the (approx. 11sec.) dropout glitch at 3:59, ever hopeful this will be resolved and reposted w/o the gap.
Likewise with Day 2's 'HOTW>Slip...>Franklin's ... glitched (at 19:57) rendering.
Appreciation and thanks to the techys for doin' what can be done.
That sounds like a tape cut on 4-17-84. I thought someone had checked this against archive recordings already and said they occur on soundboard recordings there as well. That's not quite the same as today, where the mar isn't found on the archived SBD versions. I blame it on electronic gremlins.
Funny how there is so much discussion about "unknown venue". Who cares where if they play like that!
The sad part is that there doesn't appear to be any source that includes the music before the cut-off part of Cryptical Enlightenment that starts the track (or the set?). Dang!
Apparently Bobby wasn't the only one way high - the crew must have been out there too as no one remembered to turn on the tape recorder!
After all these years, there must be someone, somewhere that has a full recording of that show in SB. Please, please!
(And I add my voice to all wishing for the help of the wonderful folks at dead.net to please find the missing music from today's download).
The night after the band played at the unknown venue in Santa Barbara, where, by a few remarks here and on archive, at least some of the band were apparently inebriated to some degree, they trot off to the Playboy Mansion and give the ol' coffee urn, and hence Hugh and his entourage, a bit of the electric Kool-aid treatment. Pschedelic Cowboys out to have some fun.
another question about previous 30 Days Its from 2011 track 9 He was a Friend of Mine says it happened on 7/3/69 but looking up that date in deadbase 50 shows they didn't play this song that night ,the old deadbase XI section list setlist uncomplete ,the update at the front of the book has full setlist and this song is not on it,the deadbase XI section list the song as being 1st played on 7/3/66 but looking in the update section in deadbase 50 Friend of mine was replaced by Just a Hand to Hold every website that I looked up 30 days 2011 has the wrong date and location They did not play He was a Friend of Mine at Reed's Ranch in Colorado Springs They did play Just a hand to hold though so maybe its the same song but called something different like (Never Trust a Woman as listed in The complete Annotated GD Lyrics 50th Anniversary edition) and (Good Times as Listed in Deadbase 50 I just don't know enough about pre 70 dead to figure out what Date this song actually came frome
Grateful Dead Lyric and Song Finder says "This was played by the Grateful Dead in their early days, from 1966 to 1970. It is normally in setlists as "He Was A Friend Of Mine" but it is in fact a portion of a Mark Spoelstra song "Just A Hand To Hold". Nonetheless, Grateful Dead releases still list it as "Trad. Arr Garcia/Weir/McKernan/Lesh/Kreutzmann".