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Brown-Eyed Women
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A song that was one of the longest-played and most-played in the Dead's repertoire
day18_n7rnb4iqfkonv1ri_browneyedwomen.mp3
New Haven, CT, New Haven Coliseum
Debuted in August 1971, Brown-Eyed Women was played almost 350 times by the Grateful Dead, one of the most-played Garcia-Hunter songs
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A song that was one of the longest-played and most-played in the Dead's repertoire
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day18_n7rnb4iqfkonv1ri_browneyedwomen.mp3
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Brown-Eyed Women

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Now this is a hint I can really sink my teeth into ;) Much more similar to the vague, non-helpful hints of yore than those we've been used to receiving lately. This may be a repeat, I don't keep good track, but it's a hot BEW from a hot tour. Another "name that venue" discrepancy here...

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...hopefully there will be a hint I can comprehend when I get home. This is not a repeat.

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Once you determine the year, there are at least 2 good clues in this recording that separate it from other very similar renditions.

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I gave my daughter, home from college for Thanksgiving, the year and she found this one.

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The very next show would be my initiation into the live experience of the band beyond description, where I learned that once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

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... within the first 30 seconds. Also, I’m starting to think they are picking ones that they can play with the venue name on purpose. Really easy though to peg the year as your starting point. One of my all time favorite dead songs!

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Too much of nothing can make a man feel ill at ease.....No hint...no clear soundboard....no choice with the full name of the venue. The guitar riffs at certain spots and the mix up at about 4:00 made my pick for today pretty certain.

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A couple of obvious clues. Had to wade through about six year worth of BEWs before stumbling on the correct answer. Still annoyed about the Robertson Gym/unknown venue issue. But, I can't really complain.

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I humbly admit I am one of those that is grateful for a good hint. I especially enjoyed Reuben and Cherise and yesterday's Bertha, which I relied upon those hints for... Thank you for all the great selections. Our family is super enjoying 2018.

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This version of Brown-Eyed Women can only have occurred within a window of less than three years (40 shows) based on a specific instrument (and player) heard here. If you have a keen ear you can narrow it down a bit...happy hunting!

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....i.e. not really hints. Enjoying P.N.E. '74. All I know, I could not leave her there.

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Hi hi all , sorry to use the 30 days forum but I figured it was the most viewed at the moment :-
I’m thinking of asking for the PNE box set for my 50th birthday at the end of the month and was wondering what the general consensus was towards it ?
Also , does anyone know of a guy called Dan
Moores from Vancouver I worked with him in London in the very early 90’s but we lost touch .

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I assume you mean the "PNW" Box Set.

The Northwest set sounds beautiful. Clarity, details etc. Great headphone, car speaker, home stereo experience. A nice slice of GD time.

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Had to go with the JG leads all throughout, the intro & the outro. They give the answer.
Some sound doctors could take the best of crowd & best of board & matrix this one for better consumption.

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reminds us to be thankful for clean copies of grate music!

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Love hearing everybody's

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That there's no number "tenny" is what was the dead giveaway for me.

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I'm not sure how it was still standing after Set2 opener...but they finally knocked it down a few decades later.

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couldn't figure it out. must go to bed.

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Finally got it. Sorry folks, but the "clues" didn't help me at all on this one (until after the fact). Shoulda just stuck with my first impressions about the sound; for those still working on it, start with those recordings that fit the style of the intro, follow Jerry's wanderings and key on the vocal idiosyncrasies and the ending. Sure doesn't help that the archive offerings are so different in tonality and speed - finally resorted to opening the downloaded track in VLC and ever so slightly boosting that playback speed (with a lot of trippy phasing effects as it went in and out of sync).
Yes, there are a lot of good BEWs, but... Must give lots of thanks today for a nice remaster so we can finally hear this choice version!

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By the way, yesterday’s was mighty easy in my opinion, but the technique for tracking it down makes the different. Obviously Brent’s tinkly keys put it in 79 or early 80s, then The arrangement and Jerry’s clean playing (he got sloppier and more cracked out with his noodling as the 80s broke) put it closer to 77 than 83 for example. Once I knew it was probably 79 or 80, I started with 79 BEW performances, looking for one specific thing: the burst of feedback after the first line.

My method, and it almost always works, is to narrow down the year, then hone in on some element that is guaranteed to be a unique identifier in the first 20-30 seconds. A stray burst of feedback, a really unique Tom or snare pattern, an oddball start. Then it’s just listening to the first 20-30 to track it down.

Yes, ratstack, this is my method also. Keyboards are usually the key for me to narrow it down to the year. In the case of Brown-Eyed Women from yesterday, it was obviously Brent playing his Rhodes electric piano. Brent used that keyboard for piano tones from his debut on 4/22/79 up until early 1982 (sounds like he played it on the Brown-Eyed on 2/19/82); so 40 versions of Brown-Eyed in that span. After that, he was onto playing a Yamaha CP-70 electric grand piano (for the rest of '82) and then a Yamaha GS-1 from 1983 until early 1987 for piano sounds. Incidentally, Keith played a Rhodes on occasion from mid-1973 through 1976 and a CP-70 from 9/3/77 until his departure after the 2/17/79 show, so you've got to know the player's chops too, not just the sound of the instrument.

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I believe I finally found it as well, but not 99% sure, hopefully the little blue man in a little blue hat doesn't say I'm wrong

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Ooops , week spotted dougbr1ne I did indeed mean to say PNW 😴😴😴

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  • perithecat
    3 months ago
    PNE vs PNW

    Ooops , week spotted dougbr1ne I did indeed mean to say PNW 😴😴😴

  • moribundjt
    3 months ago
    ihear ya HStones

    I believe I finally found it as well, but not 99% sure, hopefully the little blue man in a little blue hat doesn't say I'm wrong

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    HStones
    3 months ago
    Whew!

    Finally got it. Sorry folks, but the "clues" didn't help me at all on this one (until after the fact). Shoulda just stuck with my first impressions about the sound; for those still working on it, start with those recordings that fit the style of the intro, follow Jerry's wanderings and key on the vocal idiosyncrasies and the ending. Sure doesn't help that the archive offerings are so different in tonality and speed - finally resorted to opening the downloaded track in VLC and ever so slightly boosting that playback speed (with a lot of trippy phasing effects as it went in and out of sync).
    Yes, there are a lot of good BEWs, but... Must give lots of thanks today for a nice remaster so we can finally hear this choice version!