5-9 The Forum

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Well, allow me to start by saying that I love the Forum in LA. Abandoned by its former residents, the LA King and LA Lakers for the newer, shinier confines of the Staples Center, it remains a viable venue due to concerts and other events. It might feel a little old and dated, but it sounds great and has a good old feeling to it.

Where to begin with the Grateful Dead’s history in LA? With “only” 41 shows in LA proper, there were at least that many shows at venues that I’d consider LA without actually being in the city limits. Shows in Irvine, Hollywood, Inglewood (home of the Forum for this stop on The Dead’s tour) El Monte, and Santa Monica total about 40, and add to that a dozen in Long Beach and one near Long Beach at Terminal Island, and you have close to a hundred LA-area concerts.

As some of you might know, LA was the Grateful Dead’s home for a few months in early 1966, when Bear brought them down to live, rehearse, play gigs and possibly get a record deal. They played some great little early gigs (check out the CD Rare Cuts and Oddities 1966 for some of that early 1966 material that’ll knock your socks off) and rehearsed a lot. And ate a lot of meat and drank a lot of milk.

There are really so many ways to look at the band’s history in LA that we’ll do a quick run through of the places and times they’ve played in the area. They played this very same Forum seven times, in 1977 and 1989, with other major indoor venues for the band being the Shrine (10 shows 1967-1968), the other Shrine (four shows 1976 and 1978) the UCLA Pauley Ballroom, and seven shows at the LA Sports Arena. In the early years there were several shows at venues with names like the Danish Center, AIAA Hall, Ambassador Hotel’s Banana Grove, The Club and other cool one-off venues for the Grateful Dead.

Most famous amongst Dead Heads in terms of Grateful Dead music from the LA area are likely the two shows from the Hollywood Palladium in August 1971. These shows featured not only one of the greatest versions of Hard To Handle ever played on 8/6/71, but plenty of other fine music. Some it was included as bonus material on Road Trips Vol. 1 No. 3 and some was included as part of Dick’s Picks 35 (aka the Houseboat Tapes), so definitely check those two CDs out for some great playing. Between them there is about eight hours of stunning Grateful Dead music from Chicago, San Diego, Terminal Island, Yale Bowl and Hollywood. Two perfectly complementary albums. While we’re talking about the Hollywood Palladium, I have to mentioned to the excellent shows on 9/9&10/72, just after the Boulder show on 9/3/72. Of course, from the Shrine Exhibition Hall on 8/23&24/68, there were the two exceptional shows that make up Two From the Vault (8/24 plus a big jam from 8/23), some of the finest 1968 Dead you’ll hear outside of January and February. One of the great missing shows from the vault is from this very venue, the Great Western Forum, on 6/4/77. This show was just a few days after the world theatrical premier of The Grateful Dead Movie on 6/1/77 at the Ziegfeld Theatre in New York, and was the show that fell between the end of the massively great April-May 1977 tour and the three magical nights at Winterland 6/7-9/77. What a terrific run of shows this was. So, although the June 4, 1977 show isn’t in the vault, there are excellent audience tapes of this show floating around, so do try to hear it if you can.

With so many shows to mention in the LA area, we likely should keep it to what we’ve already mentioned. Otherwise we’d start talking about the three nights at Legion Stadium in El Monte, the many great nights at Irvine and Long Beach, the 1976 shows at the Shrine, the show in 1989 at which Bob Dylan showed up, the other shows in 1989 at which Bruce Horsnby and Spencer Davis sat in.

Have fun at the show!

We'll update this page shortly after the show with the setlist and to recap each performance by The Dead as it relates to the context of the Grateful Dead's history at this venue or city.

Set 1

I’d forgotten about the funky yellow and orange seats in the Forum. It’s so funky! The first set has an unreal list to it. The last time Bobby, Phil, Bill and Mickey played Viola Lee Blues and Caution in the same set in LA was 11/10/67 at the Shrine. That’s pretty darn cool. I like the idea of adding a couple of cool early 1970s songs around Viola Lee Blues, Bertha and Black Peter. And to cap things off with a big Cosmic Charlie is a terrific way to end what is a crazy-looking set. It just hit me that I ran into Fred Savage at this venue a few years ago and said “Doogie Howser!” Oops. The tour is now 19 shows old and they keep playing remarkable setlists.

Set 2

I heard a lot of people hoping for a few specific songs tonight, and the first set took care of all of the Viola Lee Blues requests, and the second set started out with the much-hoped-for Shakedown Street, followed by another New Speedway Boogie, played so well on this tour. Everything from Workingman’s Dead has been played exceptionally well on the tour so far. The somewhat-expected Scarlet>Fire came next, as it was hard not to be thinking about the fires in Santa Barbara. They then veer into the always-impressive-on-this-tour Rhythm Devils part of the show, during which Bill and Mickey have been conjuring some incredibly way-out-there sounds. Space. Out of Space comes Dark Star, which is another of the many songs loads of people were talking about in the lead-up to the show. There are very few classic Grateful Dead songs they haven’t yet played on this tour, and Wharf Rat was one of them. No longer, as the first Wharf Rat of the tour was busted out tonight in LA. Another taste of Dark Star and then a double dose of Bob Weir rock-n-roll with Satisfaction and One More Saturday Night seems like an appropriate way to end a show in LA. Now homeward bound to two shows in the Bay Area…


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Setlist

(Set 1)

  •   Viola Lee Blues
  •   Bertha
  •   Viola Lee Blues
  •   Caution
  •   Viola Lee Blues
  •   Black Peter
  •   Cosmic Charlie

(Set 2)

  •   Shakedown Street
  •   New Speedway Boogie
  •   Scarlet Begonias
  •   Fire On The Mountain
  •   Drums>
  •   Space
  •   Dark Star
  •   Wharf Rat
  •   Dark Star
  •   Satisfaction
  •   Donor Rap

  • (Encore)

  •   One More Saturday Night

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I am gonna drive as fast as

I am gonna drive as fast as I can to get there...It's been 14 long years for me and EYES can't WEIGHT no moe.

It's gonna be a FULL MOON too...they are gonna SHAKEDOWN this place and FIRE it up!!!

This tour has been special, would be nice to see them do some more in the furture...thanks for the goodness guys!!

Cheers!

Got my color probability chart in hand...

Cant wait for LA. Should be a great time. Hard hard is the trip from the Forum to Shoreline? Will the fires effect the route?

The lot at the Forum

When is the last time anyone was at a show at the Forum? What is traffic like in the area? Is it true there is absolutely no "tailgating" permitted? Just wanna know when to show up. We are totally stoked and ready to jam! Can't wait!!!!!

traffic will suck on

traffic will suck on Manchester from about LaBrea on over to the venue, maybe even back to the 405 (I live on the west side of the Wood, so I can't say for the other side of town). Saturday afternoon on the 405 either direction around Inglewood will be bad. 110 probably won't be quite as bad since it's not the closet freeway to the Beach. I never use the 10, so I can't say about that. Prarie will be slow going from the 105 up, I'd imagine. The only show I've been to there was Weezer, so most of the fans were dropped off by their parents; therefore no taigaiting was even attempted. Just bring plastic cups, I guess...

Random Thoughts from a Specific Mind - Part 1

I started chiming in on this site on the 2nd Philly night, which I believe will go down as one of the immortals. I first saw the Grateful Dead at the Tower Theater in 1976 and kept coming back to ride the Bus for many shows thereafter through 1987.

I've approached this latest incarnation with a load of skepticism and wariness. I wasn't sure if it was a nostalgia trip or, if I had hoped, it was taking the adventure "Furthur" as the Pranksters used to say.

I've read most, if not all, of the comments here and have respected everything said because I believe it has come from the heart of everyone. If you take the time to write, you think you have something to say and that has a certain validity.

At the risk of sounding arrogant, loathsome, or just plain TOO, I have formed some ideas about this latest Bus trip. I will break it down over a few parts, culminating with their last show of this tour. The gist of what I have to say is this: they need to call themselves the Grateful Dead. That's who they are, that's when they are, that's where they are and that's what this is. I'll flesh this out over some random ramblings but I have this belief that the "Grateful Dead," the Alpha, the Omega, the It, are bigger than a collection of musicians. It may have started with the Diggers in 1649 and subsequently been reborn (cross-eyed...) over the years. What was incarnated in 1965, re-shaped in 1972, reconstituted in 1977, re-imagined in 1980, reborn in 1987 and ended in 1995 is not what is taking shape today. "The shape it takes could be yours to choose," rings more true today than perhaps it did in 1965.

It's 2009 and there's a new ethos, a new paradigm to explore and the Bus is coming by. Phil, Bobby, Warren, Jeff, Billy and Mickey are the signposts, not necessarily the content but pointers to something we've all imagined, all hope to imagine, all hope to experience. It's not nostalgia. It's a new conversation and we're witness to it. We're participants in it and it is a grand time!

Phil, Bobby, Warren, Jeff, Mickey and Billy: call yourselves the Grateful Dead. You do no dishonor to Jerry, to Pig, to Brent, to Keith or to Vince. You also do not dishonor Donna or T.C.

Let's go FURTHUR!!!

Just got into LA, missed

Just got into LA, missed another flight, but made it ok. They bumped me up to first class and when I went to put away my overhead luggage, I noticed that I was seated in front of Billy and Mickey! I couldn't believe it. I tried to be cool, but it was way difficult. Anyways, the shows have been great so far, can't wait to see what happens tomorrow.

I am like a little kid the

I am like a little kid the night before X-mas. Since Jerry passed, I've been to a bunch of Furthur fests in the 90s, did some Other Ones shows in 98 and saw The Dead in 04, all of which were pretty ho hum IMO. However, I've downloaded most of the shows from this tour and it sure sounds like the real deal to me. It's been a long, long time, I'm dying here...

cali

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watch out west coast the boyz are comming and tking no prisoners. they are out to blow your minds so hold on tight and enjoy the shows. thay have been
SMOKIN HOOOOOTTTTT!!! to say the least

loaves and fishes,dont give up dont ever give up!

Forum!

Can't wait, got my ticket.

Please give me an Eyes of the World. Please!

Also praying for a Terrapin.

hey mr. Kool-Aid! OH YEAH!

Can't

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Even know this is the endind of tour It's just the begining for me. I haven't seenthem since Foxboro mass in 95 and the last song I saw them do w/ jerry/ Was "this will be the last time..........and it was til tommorow I can't friquin WAIT
If they do bobby mcgee I will SHIT

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