• January 19, 2011
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    Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On Over 60 Discs!

    $450.00
    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings


    Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

    After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


    - David Lemieux


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    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    The packaging is, as you might expect, first rate. Each show is its own Digipak, with its own liner notes by top Dead scholars (including David Gans, Steve Silberman, and Nicholas Meriwether) and attendees of some of the concerts, and many never-before-seen photos. Additionally, there is an enormous book worthy of coffee table treatment featuring hundreds more photos and a comprehensive essay by yours truly (Blair Jackson). The box will also contain other memorabilia and ephemera from the tour.

    A rough sketch of the potential packaging.
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    At $450, this clearly will not be a box for everyone. In fact, this individually numbered boxed set will be limited to orders placed with a maximum of 7,200 boxes produced. As a special bonus, the first 3,000 orders will receive a personalized copy. Due to the huge manufacturing costs (wait 'til you see it! We're doing something unlike any other boxed set release ever! It's exceptional!!), we need to hit 3,000 sales before we even go into production. If we don't reach 3,000 by April 1st, the boxed set won't be able to happen. This isn't a gun-to-your-head sales pitch. Rather, we want to be open with you about the realities of this release's massive scope and ambition.

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    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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$450.00
Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings


Hey now! Due to overwhelming demand, surprising even those of us with huge faith in the Europe '72 project, the entire limited edition run of 7,200 boxed sets has sold out in less than 4 days. We thank you beyond words for your support and belief in this unprecedented and wonderful release.

After lengthy discussions, we've decided we don't want to deprive anyone of this music, some of the finest the Grateful Dead ever performed. Of course, we're keeping to our promise that the boxed set and all of its accouterments will not be made available beyond these 7,200 boxed sets (and wait until you see the case in which the music is housed, the hard-bound coffee-table book, plus all of the other cool surprises we've been unearthing!). But, we're going to offer just the music, all 22 shows, more than 60 CDs, more than 70 hours of music, each show housed in its own packaging, for the same price as the boxed set, $450 including domestic shipping. Although perhaps not as cool as the boxed set, the bottom line is that the most important aspect of Europe '72: The Complete Recordings is going to be made available to all, the music.


- David Lemieux


Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan, beautifully designed EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping 60+ DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this stunning box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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In spite of what you might claim above, this is indeed a shotgun-to-the head offer. As the original Grateful Dead would have done it, often at at loss (but do they really miss it now?) and for a helluva lot of fun, but now it's a total money gimmick. Just make the darned box set, with all of the artwork included, and put a fair price on it. What's so damned hard about that? Byrd
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Haven't heard that term since my college days in the 80's. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Trust fund... Pffft. If you bought them all separately, how much would they cost? (If they were sold separately.) Look at the cost of all the Dick's Picks. It's not like they're selling them at $50 a CD.
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that you spend complaining into A) working harder, B)saving some money, or C)both, you would probably be able to buy this. But, you are probably better off complaining about. I know it's hard to imagine actually having to pay for good and services. Parish the thought. For the one complaining about "Trustfund" heads, please. I'm guessing that most of these "Trustfund" heads have a thing called a job. They earn, what some would call money, by working at said job. They can than use this money to buy things. If they do not make enough money to buy a certain thing right away, than they do this thing called saving. Really, can GD and Rhino make this any easier? You have 8 MONTHS before you have to pay for it. Just because you can't get it, doesn't mean it's not a good price. Hell, there are a lot of things in this world I'd like. We can start with a house in the Caribbean I can go to in the winter, instead of the 10 degree, 7 inches of snow crap I'm dealing with now. So, just because I can't afford that doesn't mean that someone that can has an issue or a problem. Maybe they are luckier than me, or maybe they are just smarter or work harder. I have no issues with people saying that this isn't for them because they have the shows already, or they don't need every show, or maybe 72 just isn't their favorite year. More power to you. But for those that want it, and either refuse to save the money or maybe you can't justify the expense to yourself, get off of your whiny horse and move on. I'm sorry that some of you are offended that people actually want to get paid for the hard work they do. I'm sure all of you that are complaining, go into work regularly and say you'll work for free. Once again, they could not be any clearer than saying this box will not be for everyone. Please, pretty please, if you really want it, bitching and complaining about it is not going to get you any closer to getting it. 8 months is a long time to figure something out. Rant #2 over. I need to stop reading some of this slop.

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Vince, re: * April 21, 1972, Beat Club, Bremen Ha, I was wondering if they'd include this! I think Rockin' the Rhein is one of the finest GD releases ever. How is $ 450.00 not a fair price for 60+ discs?? Assuming it's 60 (and it's not, it's 60+), that's $ 7.50 per disc without lighting a switch ~ and of COURSE these things have to be remixed, remastered, packaged, and shipped. So it's already a totally fair deal without even adding the book, the liner notes (for EACH show) & extras that people will whine about paying for. What do you consider a fair price for this package? No, not everyone can afford it. But they're putting a few thousand out into the universe. Adding something that wasn't there before, taking nothing away from the universe. What's bad about this? If I don't get one, I'll be jealous, too. That's on me. Not on Rhino or the Dead. Deal with your stuff.
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I enjoy reading your comments. Thanks for the chuckle while I am at *GASP* work! I love to be able to help people out and one way I've tried to do that is for the Dead 09 and Furthur tours I made a point of buying a few extra tickets and giving them out to folks in need for the shows I attended (quite a few shows). However the more I do that, the more I find that there are a lot of people who EXPECT to get tickets for free. To me that is a turn off. Big time. A couple of times I didn't even get a thank you... "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Does September 13, 1988 ring a bell for anyone? If not, watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9um_flYGjg I'll be listening to Jerry until my last breath and am totally on board with keeping the music alive and vibrant. And, where do we draw the line between consumption and consciousness? One of the biggest lessons and values I took from the Grateful Dead was to be good stewards of Mother Earth and kind towards All Beings Everywhere. The world needs us today more than ever. The Dead have ALWAYS been cutting edge and I believe cutting edge right now is going Digital = packaging free music. If there was ever a time to put our money where our mouth is, this would be it! If the Dead truly want to continue to be pioneers, I hope they (and Rhino) will search their Souls for a new business model that will make the music accessible with minimal "impact". As they preached to us in the final years of Grateful Dead tours, "Nothing but footprints!" If not us, who? If not now, when? Brother "A" Full of hope, full of grace is the human face. But afraid, we may lay our home to waste. "Constantly choosing the lesser of two evils is still choosing evil." Jerry Garcia
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No one is forcing you to buy this thing. People have priced out the cost per disc below and it seems pretty reasonable. It's definitely a luxury item, and completely unnecessary, given CDs like Rockin' the Rhein, Hundred Year Hall, and Europe '72 itself, and any boots you may have. But as a limited edition, it's pretty hard to not to want to buy this set asap.

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Wave said: "It's definitely a luxury item, and completely unnecessary.... But as a limited edition, it's pretty hard to not to want to buy this set asap." Exactly, it's an art set. You see original watercolors from artists you've never heard of and likely never will again (some that I could've done in 8th grade) going for this much $ in your local coffee shop. How much more valuable a work of art than the entire Europe '72 tour in a special box? If the powers that be were all about money, why would they clear their vault of this treasure trove (which they could've mined for years to come in separate releases) for a mere 7200 recipients? They're choosing to do something special instead. Not to say we may not see smaller anthologies of it offered, a la Fillmore West; but think of how many Road Trips or other vault releases they could've gotten out of this material. This is the crown jewels, man.
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Over the years many have dared to ask for this and now it has been delivered. Now, as many posts show, we are amazed that this has actually been brought to fruition and we are truly grateful. On the other hand, a whole lot of people are complaining about the price. Nothing wrong with complaining as long as the complaints are valid. With the recent RTs, we have been getting a ful show (plus some extras) for $23.98 i.e. $8 per disc. Recent box sets have been The Warlocks (2 shows on 6 CDs for $69.98 - $11.50 per disc) and the two Winterland boxes (3 shows on 9 CDs for $99.98 - $11 per disc). Now we have this monster with 22 shows on 60+ CDs for $450 - less than $7.50 per disc and people are moaning about the price. Get real. Hands up please if you are amongst those who pleaded for the release of this and are now complaining. OK, so a lot of money has to be paid in one go, but we have been given 8 months to get it together. It used to be that one's credit card was charged at the time of pre-ordering. Someone said earlier that this should be offered at a fair price. If someone told me what the box consisted of and asked me what I considered a fair price, I would come out higher than $450 for sure. Personally, I don't consider $450 a fair price, I consider it a bargain. Knowing that this tour is widely considered to represent the band at the very pinnacle of their performing prowess just makes it that much better. The only potential problem I can see is that if there are plans for further mega-boxes in the future, few will be as willing to pay out that much again for a tour that was eclipsed by this set of performances. If ever there was a must-have complete tour this is it and those who dared to ask for it know that. Just my 2 Euro-cents worth.
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Considering everything that will be offered IF this release becomes a reality, I have 8 months to SAVE and have a confirmed reservation. $450 U.S.D. including domestic shipping for 60+ CDs, book and packaging is more than worth it. Regardless if you're a fan or not, look at the price tag for the recent Elvis and Miles Davis box sets..... This Dead box will instantly become a collector's item and will cost much less compared to those releases. I give my thanks and support to everyone involved in this potential project!!!
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For the most part, I think everyone who has commented likes the idea of this music becoming available to the general public. Let's face it, no one is getting much enjoyment out of the tapes when they are sitting in the Vault. I'm sure many options were considered before this set was put out as an item to be purchased. I am almost as sure that the individual shows from this set will be available for purchase after the 7200 editions have been spoken for. but, unlike the Fillmore '69 set, I would doubt there will be condensed version available for general purchase. However, this is just a guess. Having purchased all of the previous E72 music made available by the GD (E72 (expanded), Steppin' Out, Rockin' The Rhein, Hundred Year Hall), I am a bit perturbed that they haven't made an announcement regarding shows being available for individual sale. Clearly, the lack of any such announcement indicates it is the intent of GDP/Rhino to create urgency in the GD community to get the limited edition. "Since I can't get 4/7/72 alone, I have to get this set." They are banking on this kind of panic. I urge everyone to be patient. Those completists with deep pockets will buy the 7200 limited editions. The music will get remastered to HDCD. And, in some form, the shows that haven't already been officially released will most likely become available to everyone. When I went through my stuff to compare what I already have to what "more" this box set may have, I found that I have at least a portion of every one of the 22 shows played on this tour. This stuff is out there already if you poke around. Admittedly, not every note from every show is out there now, but most of the gems have come to light already. Thanks everyone. "My needs they are simple, I don't want anything, but I surely want to fly on those wings, on the run, one more time." - Pigpen
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My only concern is that maybe I am too late for the first 3000? If so, not too late for the first 7200 ! I only received my email notification about this set ( "...Announcing the biggest release in Grateful Dead history") today, Fri 01/21, at 1:30 in the afternoon.... which looks like 2 days after the site started taking reservations - Did others get earlier notifications? Or maybe word of of mouth? Either way.... if I get a reservation I will be estatic! When the 10 disc Filmore set hit, I dallied around before ordering .... and was too late. I was beyond bummed, for a long long time.... until christmas, when I found out my wife had bought it for me for a gift! ( I doubt seriously I can talk her into buying this one for me, however.... so I'm on my own ...)
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dead family - ignore all the ridiculous whiners who couldn't wait 5 seconds to start complaining, and plan to do this some more! complaining about production value, complaining about shipping, whining about this or that... truly pathetic. please do a favor to the common sensible among us and watch the grateful dead movie. you are that guy they got on camera complaining about the filming of those and betting the guy next to him it'll never get shown. are you incapable of seeing the enormous work involved? the discs alone would be $7.50 each. and do you think there's some manufacturing/publishing company that does things this size every day all day long?
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I have a question. Are we Deadheads or Dead Heads? I always thought I was a Deadhead, but my reservation email starts “Dear Dead Head”. Is there a difference?
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The (Grateful) Dead have made much of their music free over the years, and no one's holding a gun to anyone's head (gee, can I say that?) so as to force them to click on the "Submit" button; the remaining boys decided to cut the vault loose for a chunk of change (their call - business is business), and therefore the suits or skirts that figure out what do with all this good shit get to make the call(s). Guess what? You don't (whatever your name was with the Dick Tracy calculator). Maybe if one day you or yours make some fabulous timeless music that other folks will plunk down there cash for, then you'll be the man. Until then, your just a (change-counting) chump. Peace & love, "bra." Mine is reserved (though my unfiltered thoughts may not be). Don't want one? Don't buy one!
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UKUncleJohn - I think S&R had "Dead Heads" in the famous "unite" proclamation... ?
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Earlier, someone stated that there were 539 songs played on this tour. I'm not going to argue with that and I'm certainly not going to count 'em myself. As far as I know, 86 of those are already out having been officially released. There are certainly songs that were played (and recorded) that do not appear in the setlists, there are others that appear in the setlists that may not have been played (all will be revealed upon release), but from what is currently known some 16% of the songs have been previously released. I think nothing from 9 of the shows has been officially released before, whereas 1 show has been released in it's entirety. This is how it is - I don't have an opinion about whether it is right or wrong except that I would not be happy if those 86 songs had been omitted from this box. The full show (if possible) is what its about, right.
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Can we trust that these are to be mastered to the likely correct concert pitch? And: Will they be available as downloads when the CDs set sells out?
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That's more disks than I can listen to in 60 years! Will have to hit it big in Publishers Clearing House to have a grateful ghost of a chance for that. I wish rather that some of those road trips would make re-available the bonus disks.
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This music is more than anyone could ask for. In recognition of this, I am done with venting about the foul-ups. This incredible music will help to cement the legacy of The Grateful Dead. Time will pass and the music will fade away. Then one day someone will dig up little something from deep in an archive, that person will share it with some friends...
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I just received the email notification today. I'm struggling finacially but will find a way to pull this off. Rotterdam is one of my top five for complete shows. I am thrilled but saddened. I too could forego the fancy packaging and may eevn prefer downloads. Which is what I have called for for years. Imagine the entire archive available for download(yes, for a price). I thinks all versions as well sbd and audience. My one sound complaint about the recent releases is that they are all sbd and do not reflect a finishes work as heard in the crowd. They tend to be a bit sterile. This will be fun However it works out. Hey are any of you guy's in South Central New Hampshire hiring experienced organic landscapers that can kick ass? I gotta pay for this stuff!
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Hope I'm still alive. Think I'll bury the cash. Got my confirmation -- sorry if I appear whiny wharfrat1, it's certainly not heartfelt. You almost feel like you could take that trunk and leave the the rest behind, though you never would.
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Let us not fool ourselves. There are many trust fund Dead Heads of all ages but especially those under 50 are from a different demographic than some of us blue collar geezers. Many collect this music like they would buy wine or Mercedes gull wing roadsters.Yes, I will admit to hanging with some well over 60 trust funder's as well. Man I hate this time period of human history.
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...though I think the trust-funder thing is a bit over-rated. But when you see a SYF Spinnaker on a 40' yacht sailing the Caribbean how can you not pull up the Jolly Roger? Not a trust-funder, just lucked into a few Dead safaris. Better to wish them well, it'all happen again some time this aeon. But not the 72 Box set!
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This does indeed sound like the very "Holy Grail" of DEAD-HEAD-ness... I WANTS THE PRECIOUS !!! Unfortunately, I am a mere working-class "hippie" and am still saving my $ for the 2009-released NEIL YOUNG ARCHIVES Vol. I box-set (which in numerous ways e.g. packaging, book, rare/ unreleased material, weird miscellaneous-related ephemera), almost seems to be a template for this new and fantastic GRATEFUL DEAD EUROPE Box... I work for a living, but if I were to purchase BOTH NY & GD boxes I would be about $800.00 more broke than I already am in this hurtin' economy. Way to go with the "good timing" you rich "counter-culture" icons... NOTHIN' LEFT TO BUT SMILE, SMILE, SMILE
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So I'm the best wife ever because my husband gets to have "Very Jerry" Christmases and birthdays. I just got the email and really hope that I'm able to get one. I just hope he doesn't find out about it and try to order one for himself! Does anyone know how many have been reserved so far? I'm waiting on my confirmation. :(
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The reservation screen is now for non-personalized editions. I guess this means the set is a go. Now all I have to do is worry that my reservation does not get screwed up, me being the oh so positive person that I am!
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I miss the shows so much, but what an amazing time to be on the bus! This box set just blows me away. I will save my pennies and have sent in my reservation with email and name. Thank you so much to all involved for bringing this music to the people. Now, about a spring 90 box set!?! I will be all over that one as well! Take care all.
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When Don Rico mentioned the Neil Young 2009 Archive No 1 release ($420 or so), I did a search to see what his fans’ reactions were. It was the same as here, i.e., the whiners made exactly the same complaints. So what this tells me is that the negative reactions here have nothing to do with anyone being a Dead Head, per se. It is simply a socio-economic phenomenon where those who can’t afford something they want feel personally abused and have enmity (hatred or ill will) toward those who provide the product and those who can afford it. Jay Psychodeadologist
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LOL, I just right now received an email from GD "Announcing the biggest release in GD history" the Europe '72 boxset; LOL, way to send out the email notices 2 days late! I'm glad I don't rely on GD emails to notify me of releases..........!
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The Neil Boxset I have is $80 on Amazon and $99 on the Neil Young Site. I wasn't aware of one for $420.
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I would be afraid to enter my credit card number into such a poorly designed ordering system. If they can not make the system take orders properly why would I think they could protect my personal info??
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that my signed Europe '72 poster & postcards just went up in value???
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Well, I know it's not the expected form to be negative, but this $450 thing blows my mind. I just can't see it as a good thing. There must be a Grateful Dead corporation out there whose focus is to analyze the actuarial tables of the aging and presumably prosperous Dead Head population and pragmatically decide when to release the old shows. If they did it all at once they wouldn't maximize their profit because everyone would share. If they wait too long we'll all be dead. What's the point of it all? I'd like to think that from the viewpoint of us listeners to focal point is the music, and the joy and transcendent experience of life that it brings. So what's up with offering this music in one huge collection for so much money, as opposed to breaking it up into affordable segments? I already have the original "Europe '72", "Steppin' Out With the Grateful Dead, Europe '72" and "Rockin the Rhine with the Grateful Dead" in 1972. So if I wanted more of that tour I'd hate to double up on what I already have purchased? Why not just offer what what hasn't been released, from that '72 tour, and list it accordingly in the catalogue? I reckon if I was rich I'd be happy to consider buying this new collection, but then I think of all those that struggle to get in to a Furthur show, and the disparity makes me think of other things, like a widening gap of social inequality and opportunity. Elitist comes to mind, as I think of the bedraggled, dreadheaded flock of earnest young folks that I see outside the Furthur shows.
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I contacted David Lemieux last year and he was telling me that he was lobbying for this release. I had no idea it would come about this soon. To be honest, when he told me about it I thought it would cost $600-800 and I would have been willing to pay that. So $450 to me, is a steal. Rockin' The Rhine retails here for $32, which is a justifiable price point (albeit a high one) for individual shows. If one were to purchase all the shows at that price, including shipping it would be way more than $450 - the same is true even if they were $25 a pop (although there is NO indication that they will sell individual shows at this point). Now am I a trust fund baby? Technically, yes. But I can't touch that money for another 11 years, so that's a stupid argument. Do I have a baby on the way this year? Yes, but I can set aside $50 a month with a bit of planning. I also earned a Ph.D. by age 28, so I like to think that I'm not an idiot and know a few things about hard work and sacrifice (a grad student budget is pretty much at or below the poverty line). As someone who never saw the Dead with Jerry the vault releases are the only chance I have to hear the master work. I buy everything that comes out and I'm working on my back catalog too (PLEASE RE-STOCK DP 25, 28, 32, and 34, for starters - If they've sold out, there's obviously a demand for them). Of course I've asked Rhino about this (as well as a box set of ALL the bonus discs from over the years - low production costs, limited packaging, a fair price - I'd buy it, especially for the Beyond Description bonus disc, which is phenomenal) and all I've been told is that they're re-ordering (although in 3-4 months there's still no evidence of this). Am I a completist? As much as possible, yes. Do I enjoy collecting CDs as a hobby? Yes. As a trained historian, I also understand the importance and value of having these sorts of things and being able to pass them along to successive generations. I am in no way going to a look a gift horse in the mouth and complain about this, or any other release. I place these things in a broader context, but I understand that not everyone does. To each their own, but simply because one can't afford this or disagrees with the tactics of GDP/Rhino does not mean that those entities are wrong or bad. It seems that the entitlement mentality is not just the province of the millennial generation (Yes, I'm technically a millennial). The Dead were, are, and will continue to be a capitalist enterprise. That's not to say they're an exploitative one, and most would agree they are quite a unique entity, but it is unfair to impose our values on to them. In graduate school I had one professor who always reminded us that we had to be careful when criticizing another's work, that you have to limit your criticism to the story they wrote and not the one YOU think they should have written. The same basic idea applies here. If you don't like the story, don't read the book (or buy the release). Just because it's not EXACTLY how you like it, does not mean it's wrong. Now what about that Spring 90 box set? LBX "Is maith an scéalaí an aimsir." Time is a great storyteller. -- Irish Proverb
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I think I will sell my 2nd row tickets to Radio City to the "Trust Fund" heads and use the proceeds for the Europe '72 Box. I hope I get a copy. Like others, I did not get the E-Mail until 10:01PM EST tonight (Jan 21st). I wish the E-Mails went out to all Dead,net users the same day! I was resting my injured back from northeast shovelling and had not been to the web site this week. I was shocked when I went to the site and saw the comments went back 2 days! Dead.Net should visit the people at Cisco and Sun Microystems to upgrade their hardware. Bobby would want the web site "just exactly perfect."
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I don't believe there's anything wrong with the shopping cart, because all of the other products are working just fine in there. I've set up new products in shopping carts and it is a very simple procedure. If there was a problem with the setup for this product, which I'm sure they tested beforehand, it would have been fixed before they made the link live. And if there was a problem, it would have been fixed by now. Did anyone out there actually get an order to go through? I don't think I saw any which did. The more releases I see coming from these guys in cigar boxes, cardboard sleeves which scratch the cds when you take them in and out, and now this one, the more I think of Neil Young's song, "Piece of Crap." $450? For what. I have every one of these shows and they sound great. How much better do they need to be that anyone would need to shell out $450 to have these shows remastered by Jefferey Norman and they can carry them around in a case with pictures and a "stash" box. Ooooooooh! Where are you going to carry them to anyway? On your way to work? Buying a ridiculously expensive box set like this is the same difference as between using windows running on Ubuntu Linux vs spending $150 on Microsoft Windows. The overall packaging might be a little nicer from Microsoft, but Linux software is completely FREE and works just as well. The only thing I'm waiting for is the day the guys over here actually release something which nobody has ever heard. That would be exciting. The only guys who actually seem to be doing that are Charlie Miller via Rob Eaton. They do it all the time for free and the mastering is great. Why is that?
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So I'm guessing this email I just received "announcing" the Europe '72 box set coming in September and only available from dead.net means the 3000 minimum has been met and the release is gonna happen? There's no longer a mention of personalization in this latest email. Still waiting for an email telling me it's OK to try and buy the darn thing, I did get my reservation in for a personalized copy - at least, I have an email confirmation stating I did. I doubt it would stand up in court though LMAO. I'm not gonna bitch about the limited edition thing (although I could) but I can't help but pick up a "half-assed" vibe from this whole roll-out.
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Don't most of us already have many of these shows in remastered, crispy Miller/Bertha and other boards? I'll save my money for something more interesting.
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1. Please release the 1990 tour box set as soon as possible so I can use the money I save by not buying that one to pay for this one. 2. What would be really great was if they included some of the film material from Europe 72 in the set? We can only hope.
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Well, that just means there really will be a huge markup when the auctions appear on Ebay.....Wonder what the coat will be around the Christmas holidays? Definitely My favorite vinyl, favorite T-shirt. In 1972 I went to the New Year's show @ Winterland - wish I could find recordings. This past NY's 12/31/10 was a great show..... I recognized "We Love You" immediately as a Stones tune. What I didn't know is that John Lennon & Paul McCartney sang vocals only on this Rolling Stones song.
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Good Lord I almost forgot! You guys wouldn't possibly release these shows out of order of performance. Please allay my fears of the dreaded edit to fit the disc.
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My biggest concern with this set is the quality control. I buy a lot of CD's all over the world, and my fair share from dead.net, and I've got to say that there have been more than a couple issues with bad or missing discs, pamphlets, etc. Certainly the highest percentage per album of any place I buy albums, from a quality control standpoint. Some issues were handled well, albeit slow. My point is that with 60 CD's in this set, the odds of getting at LEAST one bad disc, if not more, is pretty high, or some mix up, like two of one disc and none of another, so my questions would be are they going to have plenty of extra discs to send out to replace any bad ones? Also, considering the number of discs, it could take a couple weeks, at LEAST, before one were to discover any problems, so what would be a reasonable amount of time, after receipt of the set, to get a disc replaced? I don't know about the rest of you, but if I pay almost a half 'G' for a once-in-a-lifetime set like this, if it's got one bad CD in it, then, the entire set is spoiled. Based on past (And, actually, currently ongoing!) quality control problems, I'd like some kind of assurance these issues will be dealt with, both quickly and with replacements, NOT a refund offer, or some future purchase discount. I simply want a set as it's meant to be, and plays the same. Is that too much to expect for an investment such as this? I don't think so! Give us some reassurance please, and remember, Jerry is watching! Go With It, Double-Zero Sol ...and remember... "It's better to rule in Hell than to serve in Heaven." --Milton
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Amazing news all, I just found out what they do to personalize the set for the lucky ones. They bring you a wayback machine, good for one use to any Europe 72 show. This is why they need to make sure they can get in the millions, it takes that much to make that many. Finally an opportunity to go back in time and see a Europe 72 show!!!!!!
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this release should really include a DVD with remastered footage from 4/17/72 tivoli and 4/21/72 beat club.
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The level of inane whining that goes on here is staggering. It's pretty simple... if you don't want to purchase this amazing box set, DON'T. Those that want to, and can afford it, will undoubtedly by happy heads. If the remaining members of the Dead and their families, their audio crew, and Rhino make money on this venture, I say good for them. I recently paid about $250 for a 16 disc, limited edition box set of the recordings of the late great English singer, Sandy Denny. I still haven't digested all the riches and treasures on those discs, and I'll enjoy them for the rest of my days. I don't regret for a second what I paid for the set. This box is about 4 times larger than that, but less than twice the price. All the shows mixed from the multi-tracks? Incredible! Seems like a great deal, and an incredible, comprehensive treasure trove for archivists, completists and Grateful Dead fans the world over. I can't wait to hear the version of "Two Souls In Communion" that was on one of the first bootleg tapes of the Dead I owned. It was a compilation that a friend made for me, and I've never known exactly what Europe show it was from. Neither of the previously released versions from that tour are anywhere near as good, and by the end of the year I'll have a stunning, clean remixed copy of that song. I feel pretty good about that!
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This is the album that started it all for me! (first show 6-10-73) I've always told my friends that if I was ever stuck on an island, and could only have one LP it is the one I would choose. I'm all in! Thanks again GD , for another outstanding idea that's sure to be a first class, quality product like everything else to date! Peace!
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As Bobby sung in a 1971 version of One More Saturday Night: "I may be young and crazy, but I don't see reason why there's fightin' and complainin' when we should be havin' fun."
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Yaeh mates no complaints here,,but i do agree with what user "YESSSS" said above. Some Video from this tour even in a form that was the best they could do with what they have from these Europe 72 shows would be great to see. The Video DVD that came in "The Grateful Dead Srapbook" was freaking awesome. from the early patchy private footage, to the Vintage shots of PigPen playing with the band to the later footage, it was "unreal great" to see. This footage they have might not be perfect, but hey thats what i dig about the GratefulDead, i dont care if Bobby messes up the words to Truckin,( hell id think something was amiss if he didnt) i just love to see them looking down at there Instruments while playing and Jamming togther,, going where ever they wanna take me,,its like what else matters ,,nothing but that to me.. any Footage is worth its weight in Gold, but hell im not picky.. all in time. just hope im still alive to see it..
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  • I Woke Today
    8 months ago
    Is the "All the Music Edition" still available

    besides looking at the resale sites, are the All the music edition of Europe '72 still available on the Dead website for purchase?

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    Gergg
    11 months 1 week ago
    What to hear after this

    I've been neck deep in this box for a month and its awesome. I'm pretty close to hearing the whole tour but have lost track to be honest. If I wanted to dig this deep into another batch of Dead that would represent the band's next step in their development after the 72 tour what would it be?

  • marye
    1 year 3 months ago
    alas no
    these were all snapped up years ago, though you may find someone willing to part with theirs.