Grateful Dead

March 18 – March 24

Every Friday we'll be sending you off with a Jam Of The Week, hand-picked and delivered by tape archivist David Lemieux. Listen to it on the weekend. Listen to it at work. Listen to it all day long...but make sure you tune in or you'll miss out because these little nuggets will stream for ONE WEEK ONLY!

This week's Jam is from:

November 29, 1979
Cleveland Public Hall
Cleveland, OH

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Take a look...

@ poor Peter...Run and seee......PHIL BOMBS!
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needed some background music to start the morning (kinda rough start today, so Black Peter seemed right...), sometime in the middle of Around and Around I noticed my 15 yr. old son dancing to it (which is funny, 'cause according to him, good old gd is not cool).
I lack the faith to consistently believe it's the band, not the set lists - but even U.S. Blues is different/good here. (did Jerry holler at the Shah??)
the day just got better....

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Thanks cosmicbadger, I guess I think familiarity might breed not contempt, but, well.....familiarity! To my ears, during these years, those post-Black Peter songs were pretty much the same, one to another, and so having heard a lot of them, you are right, I did not need another Around and Around under my belt. I could hear it without actually having to hear it! This suggests another topic altogether (hear that Mr. Blair!) What versions of songs do you "hear in your head". Is it an actually version, or some idealized version?

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familiarity breeds contempt?

I see where you are coming from Prof, but you know some us who did not get so many chances to see them were happy with anything and everything we got. :-)

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Black Peter....

Thanks folks for keeping the knifes in the scabbard! Of course folks do and did like different songs, at different times, that is fine, and would be weird were it to be otherwise. For me, and a number of other folks, during the late 70's and early 80's, our perception (perhaps not shared by others!) was that a post-drums Black Peter signaled an early end to the part of the second set that we were most interested in, that is the more experimental, searching, jamming song/songs that often followed drums. Remember that by this time the form of the Dead's second sets was more or less set (of course there were exceptions, but not all that many). So Black Peter out of drums would usually mean no Wharf Rat, no Other One, No Dew, no Stella Blue, no..... and would usually be followed by a semi-medley of short rockers, like with this show. Now some folks loved hearing around and around, or Miracle, and so on, but not me, and not me when I felt, rightly or wrongly, that it was being performed, given its place in the set, instead of other options that I would have preferred. For us Black Peter signaled the bands desire to complete the second set as soon as possible. It seems that it often followed a particularly long, and perhaps really good, pre-drums second set, and just when you would be thinkin, as they reappeared after drums, emerging into the darkness, with the first notes of Space bouncing off the walls, that this was gonna be epic, well, Black Peter would emerge, and we knew (or thought we knew!), the best had happened, now the set will be by rote, lets get an early start to the parking lot, sober up, and hit the road! I like the song per se (not a favorite), but it also seems to be a song that during Jerry's years of tempo extremes (really fast Eyes, really slow Friend of the Devil, for example), Black Pete represented Jerry at his most turgid, the song would often seem almost to grind to a halt. Perhaps all I am saying is this: if you look at set-lists around this time (even look at all of them for, say, 3-4 months before this show, and 3-4 months after, there is very little variation in what follows Black Peter, if a show were to have a surprise, it was not gonna happen once Black Peter was performed. And since what would follow would almost always be either Around and Around, or Miracle, Bertha, or perhaps Sugar Mag., if you were not really into hearing these tunes (perhaps for the 8 millionth time!), you would take advantage and leave! We would think, "Damm, it was Black Peter, not Stella Blue," or something like that. Perhaps in the end all we got is Greybeard's nice comment, "one man's meat is another man's poison"!

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lovin' that honesty prof

...one man's meat is another man's poison. I always loved this song anyway, to listen to, and to play ... then again I never leave a hockey game early even if it's 9 - 2 with five minutes to go, I gotta cheer the three stars you know, eh?

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lovin' that honesty prof. i

lovin' that honesty prof. i am unfamiliar with what you are describing and I am interested. Could you elucidate? what was it about the sequence that was ill-received? drop me a line if you have the time. thanks.

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oh well....

A post drums sequence that drove many of us to the parking lot early, and away from the scene all together. Paradigmatic of all that was wrong with '79. I know, folks are gonna jump down my throat, but I cannot tell you how many disappointed faces you would see when Jerry "fired up" black Peter after drums, folks would flock to the exits, hit the road early, and see each other the next day at the next show......

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Nice Nice Nice!

Energy for the weekend...

Black Peter> Around And Around> Johnny B. Goode E: U.S. Blues

Thanks,

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TGIF

Thank you for posting this earlier in the day this week. I hope everyone enjoys Spring Break no matter what your plans are!!

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