• October 13, 2011
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    Europe '72: The Complete Recordings - All The Music Edition

    Europe '72:
    The Complete Recordings -
    All The Music Edition

    Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

    We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

    IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

    Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

    Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

    This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

    Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

    Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

    So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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Europe '72:
The Complete Recordings -
All The Music Edition

Our Europe '72 boxed set is now officially sold out, with all 7,200 boxes now gone! We can't thank you enough for your support, for having faith in the project and taking the plunge to purchase this unprecedented release. Despite the fact that it's going to be a bit of a wait before it arrives on your door step, we are sure you'll be blown away with the results.

We are now offering the All-The-Music edition of Europe '72, which includes all of the music recorded on the tour, with each show in its own individual package, complete with its own liner notes by Dead scholars such as David Gans, Blair Jackson, Steve Silberman, Gary Lambert and others, as well as by attendees of some of the shows. You'll get 73 CDs and over 70 hours of prime Grateful Dead.

IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MUSIC...

Because you dared dream this might happen one day… Because you went down to the Gypsy Woman and offered up your first-born to try to make it happen… Because there are enough passionate Dead Heads at Rhino/GD who thought it might be cool for this to happen… It’s happening! Coming in September is a gargantuan EUROPE ’72 MEGA-BOX SET containing ALL 22 SHOWS of what is arguably the greatest tour the Grateful Dead ever played, on a whopping and clearly cosmic 73 DISCS (over 70 hours of music!). Bet you didn’t see that comin’!

Really, at this point we probably don’t need to lay on too much hype about how wonderful the music is: Chances are, if you’re even considering buying a copy of this enormous box, you already know how amazing the Dead’s tour of Europe in April and May of 1972 was. To review briefly, though, the Dead’s first tour outside of North America took them to all sorts of historic and unusual venues in England, Denmark, West Germany, France, Holland and even tiny Luxembourg. Many members of the Dead “family” came along on what was really an extended working vacation that was designed to both expose the Dead to new audiences and also reward the band for their unlikely conquest of America during the preceding two years. As a hedge against the costs of the nearly two-month trip, the Dead’s label, Warner Bros., paid for the band to lug around a 16-track recorder to capture the entire tour… and we’re glad they did!

This was a band at the top of its game, still ascending in the wake of three straight hit albums — Workingman’s Dead, American Beauty and the live Grateful Dead (“Skull & Roses”). It had been a year since the lineup had gone to its single-drummer configuration, six months since Keith Godchaux had been broken in as the group’s exceptional pianist, and this marked the first tour to feature Donna Godchaux as a member of the touring band. There was a ton on new, unreleased material that came into the repertoire in the fall of ’71 (after “Skull & Roses” was out) and during the spring of ’72, including “Tennessee Jed,” “Jack Straw,” “Mexicali Blues,” “He’s Gone,” “Comes A Time,” “Ramble on Rose,” “One More Saturday Night,” “Black-Throated Wind,” “Looks Like Rain” and Pigpen’s “Chinatown Shuffle,” “The Stranger (Two Souls in Communion)” and “Mr. Charlie.” (Sadly, this was Pigpen’s final tour.) All those future classics were interspersed with songs from the aforementioned “hit” albums—such as “Uncle John’s Band,” “Brokedown Palace,” “Cumberland Blues,” “Casey Jones,” “Sugar Magnolia,” “Bertha,” “Not Fade Away,” et al — and then were topped off by loads of big jamming numbers — the Europe ’72 tour produced spectacular versions of “Dark Star,” “The Other One” “Playing in the Band,” “Truckin’,” “China Cat Sunflower” > “I Know You Rider,” “Good Lovin’,” “Lovelight” and even the early Pig chestnut “Caution.” And that’s leaving out a truckload of other tunes, too! There wasn’t a clunker show in the bunch, and many are acknowledged today as classics. No doubt you already have some favorites.

Through the years, there have been a few releases of material from the Europe tour—starting with the 3-album Europe ’72 which knocked our socks off in the fall of that year, and followed many years later by material from a pair of German shows and the fantastic 4-CD Stepping Out, culled from the group’s eight shows in England. Incredibly, though, only one full show from the tour has come out previously: the excellent 4/24 concert in Dusseldorf, Germany, released as Rockin’ the Rhein in 2004.

Until now, that is. Jeffrey Norman, who has been the primary mixer of Dead archival multi-track material for the past 15 years (Fillmore West ’69, Ladies and Gentlemen…, Rockin’ the Rhein, Nightfall of Diamonds, etc.) has spent many months toiling over the 16-track masters from the tour, and will continue working on the mixes through the Winter and Spring, employing the high-tech Plangent Processes transfer and restoration tools, trying to get every show to sound “just exactly perfect” (as Bob Weir says) for this release. You might think you’ve heard that intense “Dark Star” > “Sugar Mag” > “Caution” from Copenhagen, but I guarantee you’ve never heard it sound this alive! Mastering to HDCD specs is two-time Grammy-winning engineer David Glasser of Airshow Mastering. Needless to say, all the songs that turned up on previous Europe compilations will be appear in their proper show contexts, and in the case of songs from the Europe ’72 album, without overdubs that were added later (where possible).

So dig deep, raid the penny jar, take a weekend job at Jack-in-the-Box, beg your kindly ol’ grandma for some of your inheritance early… Yes, it’s an extravagance, but jeez, you (or your loved one) deserve it! This is way cool.

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Dr. Rhino: Dear Nathan, Thank you for your email. We do not have current plans to reissue the following volumes: 19 24-26 28 32-34 I do not have any information as to when/if any of the other out-of-stock volumes will be reissued. I will forward your message to our suggestion box.
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Re the question from Roland Bruynesteyn; I received an e-mail over a week ago to say that the boxes would be shipped to Amsterdam, where IVA/VAT would be paid upon them. They would then be distributed in Europe by a track and trace distribution system. Since then, despite an e-mail request for further information, I have heard nothing. No doubt they will turn up some time.
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The response above was to sort of answer redemption searcher's Dicks Picks question. It sucks that the DP's could disappear.
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Thanks for info, allman. The only dpicks I really wanted/didn't already have in high quality were the '71 "Godchaux boat" tapes (forget the exact shows), and the Academy of Music '72 show. The '71 show was #35, the penultimate one. Forget what the Academy was- #31 maybe? Think it was next one after that 6-disc 5/'77 which is great. Never ocurred to me that there would've come a time when ya couldn't get these shows, otherwise I would've thrown financial cautions to winds at time... Really bummed if ya can't get any of the sold out pure jerrys anymore. The 2-show/4-disc Merriweather post from '89 was one i really wanted, and I hardly have any JGB....(Not to mention no functioning cassette deck. Are they even still making cassette decks?)
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agree has nothing to with how they came off the assembly line... but I'm guessing the "inspection" labels with box #'s do jive with when you got your order placed. that being said it still might only be 90% or so accurate up to the Bickershaw show - diggin' on another pigpen good lovin'
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The 2-show/4-disc Merriweather post from '89 was one i really wanted, and I hardly have any JGB. That is perhaps my least favorite Pure Jerry, although I'll admit that in general I'm not a big fan of Melvin Seals. I'd make darnn sure I had Let It Rock, After Midnight, PJ1, PJ4, PJ6, and PJ9. Also Ragged But Right and the Pizza Tapes. Then you can go after PJ5. :-)
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I love reading the posts whenever a new release comes out. Deadheads are really funny these days. I see a lovely combination of frantic--"where is mine"--posts, to complaints about one missing Casey Jones (they must have played it a 3/4 of the Europe shows), to the obligatory--"I can't believe I didn't get a number". I for one am a little bummed out that I cancelled my personalized copy, but I was pretty relieved when I found a seller selling the individual shows for a fair price on eBay a few days ago. The 2 shows that I really wanted (5/11 and 5/26) I was able to purchase for $30.00 a piece (plus $3.00 combined shipping on all three discs), and I also purchased 5/24, for $30.00 based on the recommendation from the David Lemieux interview. I have been having my own little Europe 72 party with all of the previous releases. I also intend to nab Europe 72 volume 2, and that is more than enough to tide me over. Just enjoy the music
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Most of the Pure Jerry's are still to be found, but maybe not at prices attractive to US purchasers. Most are available from european resellers. Check out www.spincds.com in England or www.dancingbear.dk in Denmark. Dancing Bear has the Merriweather '89. The prices are higher than in the US due to the fact that customs and import duties and tax have had to be paid and postage back to the US would have to be added. I guess it depends on how much you want 'em. Hope this helps.
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Remember when the Fillmore 10 CD box was coming out? I noticed one sentence that makes sense now. I'm going to paraphrase what I can remember, We wanted to get something out there for collectors that was limited. Well, they sure did that, and they did it again with this box. I really think that all the DP's that are gone, are just that. They go for big bucks on Ebay, Amazon etc. The Bonus CD from Road Trips Vol. 1 is up to $ 72.00 on Ebay, now thats for one CD. If you can get the DP's you want, you had better get them while you can. View From The Vault Vol.2 CD is sold out, saw a set on Ebay go for $ 160.00. Get this stuff while you can, or you will be sorry on down the road. My CD collection is considered a family heirloom now. I did not know that the Pure Jerry CDs were sold out, I have them all. Maybe when the legal battle is over we will get some more and Jerry's site will go back up. I love collecting Grateful Dead stuff. Jam on, I'm into the 19 min Truckin on the Newcastle show. Coconut Phil, living Free.
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is also valid for most Dick's Picks - they are also (mostly) still to be found at european resellers.
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redemption searcher , I sent an email to David Lemieux asking about Dick's Picks availibility back in May. David's response was: "There are plans to reissue all out of print Dick's Picks, so please be patient and don't buy through those secondary markets. I don't have a time line, but I know it's being worked on." eBay and Amazon are the secondary markets that David was referring to based on my mention of the crazy pricing for Dick's Picks on both of these sites.
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I just received an e-mail from Dead.net that my box has shipped? It arrived last Thursday, they are still trying to get this thing pulled together. Coconut Phil, living Free.
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In the recent discussions the subject of Jerry releases came up. Someone referred to a lawsuit. I know feelings between us and Debra Koons Garcia weren't positive (for good reason) but can someone tell me the status of it all. I really miss the Jerry releases. To be honest in the last 4-5 years before Jerry passed I preferred going to Jerry shows more. 3 days at the Warfield Bliss
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Also just got my email saying the box had shipped. Even though the box arrived last week. Not sure why Rhino got so confused with so many months to get it together. May simply be understaffed over there. Either way, I'd rather have the box early and the shipping announcement late than the other way around. Which someone else here had said as well. Very true, indeed. In the end, I think most folks will be pretty happy on both sides. And probably in need of a good rest! And now that people are getting emails about receiving numbered stickers in the mail, I think there's even more reason for celebration. Hopefully, Rhino will hire (or promote) someone to be in charge of all these shipping, charging, quality details on future releases. There will still be complaints galore cause that seems to be the nature of the beast, but so long as we all learn a little something along the way, the journey will have been worth it. I know it already is for me :)
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Thanks for all the info, people. deaddisc.com is great resource... The PJ's I have I love, which is all of them except the '89, the Hornsby '91, and the Keystone 9/1/74. And the other Legion of Mary release with the tan cover. (AND Let it Rock, though I think that's still available.) I got the 3/78 Warner thtr. PJ not that long ago, in last eighteen months, and I'm glad I did, cause not sure if its still available. It was only because it had Palm Sunday on it (what a GREAT song!) that I got it, too, but the whole thing rocks. The other one I totally spaced on getting was that super-expanded version of the Pizza Tapes, as that looks very cool and much better than the single disc. (Which I must've lost-OUCH.) Not sure if that's still available from Acoustic Disc or here....if it is I'll definitely get it soon. Pure Jerry-I can see lotsa heads preferring the 70s Jer releases, but he was so good on that fall '89 tour with the Dead (Hampton; 10/16 NJ, which I LOVE, probably my favorite "modern era" second set) that I always wanted to hear those Merriweather post shows w/his band. (I've always loved Saunders otoh) According to that deaddisc, at least the dpicks were provided in downloadable form; the PJerrys weren't officially, it doesn't look like. I'll trust Lemieux's word to S.O.O.S and not hyperventilate about it i guess... The 5/24 Lyceum is kicking from the first note. I'd never heard much of any these four shows (except last side of E'72 and the little filler from Rockin the Rhein) Really loved all the View from the Vaults DVDS, can't believe they're selling for that much-that's crazy. Didn't know there were STILL legal issues with Jerry's estate; thought it had all been settled. Is that why his site basically collapsed and redirects you here?
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There are actually quite a few DP sets I do not have. I sure hope they do reissue them. It would be a shame for this series to pass into legend. Plus, all the secondary markets will of course price gouge whatever product is left since, for them, it's about the money, NOT the music... Still have tons of material to cover on the '72 box. It's just a wonderful set all around!
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Any Heads out there waiting for their boxes to be shipped to a P.O. Box may want to contact C.S. Way back when, I filled out the order form for a personalized set with a P.O. Box shipping address and was charged $11.37 extra. I received a confirmation notice/order number. As of today no box has made its way to my Post Office. I called customer service who dutifully informed me that they do not ship to P.O. boxes. The rep did not know why it was given as a shipping option earlier, or why I was not contacted that the box could not be shipped. I am now wondering if my box has gone elsewhere (though I was assured that this is not the case). If you do need to call customer service with a problem, be kind... none of this is their fault. The poor representative I spoke with seemed weary of all the calls regarding problems of one sort, or another. Good luck to all who have yet to receive their boxes. Peace
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You can pick up the out of print Dicks Picks you need at Nugs Net in Flac or mp3. Also check out the local indie CD / Record shop in your town. Most sell used CDs. http://www.nugs.net/Grateful_Dead.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Holy S#%*! It’s the COMPLETE Europe ’72 Box! On 73 Discs! ????~?¤??????? The Music Never Stops ! ???????¤?~???? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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like I've had my treasure chest/steamer trunks for a almost a week. I've been listening daily, ripping and burning, read all twenty-two liner notes, emptied all pockets, probed every corner, perused the cool book and pamphlet, when I had the chest totally emptied I shook it gently to see if anything rattled in that mysterious area at the bottom of the disc storage area, held it up to the light, turned it this way and that. Here we are a week later and my credit card hasn't been charged and, like, now I'm getting the feelin' that by the time I pay for it I'm gonna' be buying used goods. Ya know? I was thinking maybe you could get me a discount, cuz' it's like used already, Ya know? For whatever part you played in getting the numbers issued,,,,, Thank You.....you gotta be the best :-) :-) :-)

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DUDE. OBTAIN the Merriweather Jerry shows. I admit, I'm partial, they're the only J.G.B. shows I ever attended. They also featured the same kind of playing, and utterly lucid bandleading, from Jerry that I'd previously associated with my Keystone '73 tape. In some ways, it's the hottest ~ or at least, in the most command ~ I ever saw him play. No coincidence at all that that Fall tour (which saw me sidelined with pneumonia) was so tight. I remember Bob watching intently from the side of the stage, probably thinking, well, geez, if he can get this tight with THESE guys, how about th' band.......Help/Slip, Attics, & Dark Star breakouts soon followed. Well, this IS the 72 box discussion ~ for those who haven't gotten to it yet, I won't spoil the surprise that the Luxembourg "Big River" holds in store (well, it did for me, at least ; ) Haven't read all the various essays & liner notes, yet, but Wiz's "Morning Dew" story is Dead magic at work if I've ever heard it..........kudos, man, you so deserved that!
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Hmmm...now I've got a message telling me that it's shipped - but then it directs me to the U.S.Postal Service site, where I am to enter a tracking number. Needless to say it doesn't work. But the oddest thing is that it was supposed to be shipping from Amsterdam to me in England. But now it's allegedly coming by USPS, which is for stuff coming from America, I believe. So - I wonder what's going on. Does anyone know? Or care? It's all terribly mysterious and UPS - as opposed to USPS - don't seem to feature at all even though they're supposed to be delivering it. And on it goes...but I'm too tired for more pointless details. Good night.
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Here in the United States it was delivered via UPS. So I would guess that is how your Box Set will be delivered. And hopefully soon...
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If they're smart, they're release them all in a budget-priced box set, with slimline cardboard sleeves. That would be, what, around 75-80 discs or so? They'd have to sell it for a relatively cheap price, though, as they've been around for a long time. They should learn from the classical side of the music industry: full price for a while, then mid-price for a couple of years, then budget box sets after that.
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From what I gather from above, some boxes have arrived in Europe (Coconut Phil among others). Last night I got the email from dead.net saying it's in the mail. I understand the box may arrive now any day from a week ago up to two weeks from now. I also understand actual payment may occur any time from now to some unspecified moment in the future. We'll see. Price is $620,-: 450 + 85 shipping +85,50 VAT. Around 440 euros. Can't wait...
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has anyone recieved the all music edition yet? thanks Bryan
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I write for Macworld, where, among other things, I write two columns a month about iTunes, iPods and digital music. Trying to find an excuse to write an article about tho set - which hasn't yet gotten to me in France - I found one. My editor suggested I write about strategies required when ripping big box sets. Granted, sets this size are rare outside of classical music, but they do come out every now and then. (There was a big Miles Davis box a couple of years ago, for example.) I am a big classical music listener, and I have a number of large box sets, one with 172 discs (complete Bach), and others with anywhere from 40 - 150 CDs. I'm planning to cover questions of choosing a bit rate, tagging, grouping discs so they fit as a set, or as individual shows (in this case), playlists, etc. It'll be a summary of the basics that I've written about in other articles, but geared toward big sets. So, if anyone has any ideas they want to share about ripping, I'd like to invite you to contact me. You can find me e-mail address on my web site: http://www.mcelhearn.com Thanks!
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I do have higher expectations on Rhino, being a fairly old company issuing records since 1978. And postal delivery is a far much older trade. If the boxes to us Europeans were shipped earlier, then we would get them about the same time as most heads in the US. How hard could it be? No nothing in the mail today either ... and it's a shame when Swedish media for once try to write something about a major release of Grateful Dead material. But I guess the box will eventually surface ... Micke Östlund, Växjö, Sweden ------------------------------ My record collection: jazzmicke
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I hope all Europeans (and others) get their boxes soon-every day I'm more and more blown away at how awesome this tour was...I've never heard Rotterdam before and am saving that for last in memory of Dick =) The LA Times article Palmer Eldritch mentioned was interesting. How cool would it be to have business cards (like this Pinkus fellow) that say 'Senior Veep of Grateful Dead Operations' ?!? I'd want the job just so I could pass those out at a party.... Can't believe RT bonus disc(!) got $100 on ebay. That's absolutely absurd. I have it and can't even remember what it is, know it's fall '79.... The bonus discs are certainly smart business sense-providing an incentive for you to want to gobble up latest RTrips right away. Thinking DPicks would never run out is what encouraged me to avoid that mentality with those. But $100 for one little bonus disc is just over the top silly...
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A big 'thank you' to The Powers That Be for giving us a heads up on this offering way back in January.... it allowed me to salt away enough $$$ each week to at least minimize the damage to my credit card.
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> has anyone recieved the all music edition yet? I won a copy of the ATME in the sweepstakes on facebook and received an email from Rhino yesterday after I inquired about the status of mine; Rhino responded that "Deadnet is busy shipping out the boxes first, and then they will start shipping out the All Music Editions."
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Kirkmc writes that they should put them out as a bargain price box set. 2 problems with that. 1st they were already bargain prices, it's been a while but I don't think they were more than 7 bucks a disc. Let's face it if we want the stuff to keep on coming Rhino has to make some profit . The 2nd is acording to the LA Times article Dead Inc. is trying to reach a younger generation and get them started. That obviously wouldn't happen with a 35 show boxed set. Bottom line is since I know I want everything I buy everything whether it shouts at me or not. It is expensive to keep everything in print all the time. My final point is a lot of people obviously don't get collecting. There is a reason why the 1st bonus went for $100 it's been out of print for years, if you were a stamp (baseball card, comic book etc.) collector sell there collections at face value. A lot of people are selling stuff on ebay now because they have to. I for one don't begrude them the best return they can get
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Snafu: Bargain price is not $7 a disc; that's mid-price. In the classical market, bargain price is $1-$3 a disc. Once the profits have been made a full price and mid-price, the labels - which, to be fair, aren't run by the sharpest tools in the box - do understand that they won't sell a whole lot more at those prices. So they start making big, cheap boxes. This is a relatively new phenomenon, prompted by one Dutch label, Brilliant Classics, who was the first to really cut prices on classical discs. (They did big boxes of licensed content, much of which is very good.) The other labels have followed suit, and it's not uncommon to get big box sets at a buck a disc, for sets of, say, 40-60 discs.
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Sorry 1-3 bucks a disc is for a pop star who stopped selling long ago not for currently produced cds. Like I said if you want to see new product Rhino has to have a reason- prophet(ha ha). It is unrealistict in the extreme to expect them to put out a box set of about 110-120 cds with packaging and promotion (remember this from their point is about new people not those who missed out the 1st time ) for 150 or 200 dollars.
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I assumed the limited edition box would be break-even, maybe even a money loser. It's modest, $3,3m gross revenue, split dozens of ways. Imagine a few guys who had something to do with this, way back when, getting at least half, right off the top. Now that E72 is done and the music is mastered, the band or Rhino has the basis for tons of additional, higher margin product. FWIW, they didn't gross much from me, despite being one of the lucky few to order a personalized set and giving them a working card number three separate times (twice by phone), I got nothin'. Customer treatment has been quite stunning, awful (is cruel too strong?).
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I Dick's Picks are available from the Store for years to come. Maybe I'm foolish, but I believed if something ever happened to one of my prescious Dick's Picks, it could be replaced. Onto the Europe '72 forum- I'm 6 shows into the tour and my mind is officially blown. Not often does reality exceed expectations, but WOW! I think the Europe '72 Hardcover book should be available for purchase. It's so well done, and such a great addition to the music- I hope it's available to every person that wants it. Also, I hope someday these shows are available for individual purchase. It just seems to reason that if a fan wants (or can only afford) a particular show from this set, they have the opportunity for such an adventure. And Bravo again to all those who made this release possible, and for producing it so beautifully. By far, it's the greatest release ever!!!!
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I don't think Rhino has any intention of releasing individual show. It does not make sense for them. They can continue to release new road trips and other shows and will get an additional 10 to 15 thousand units sold. The number of people who bought the box. If they would release individual shows it would in all probability curtail the release of new shows. Rhino consession to the people who could not afford the box is Europe 72 part 2. One reason I got the box is because Rhino has made an effort to release any individual show from any of the dead's other boxes. It is a lot of money but the option is to pay or not have it. That being said this release is a monster. I feel for anyone who really wants it but can't afford the price. This release will be the best ever issued by the band. Between the sound qualilty, the playing, the songs and hearing them play the last time with Pigpen this will never be equaled. Anyhow what will be the next road trips. I do not think any other era would be worthy of a mega box for many reasons except maybe 77. How about a smaller box from 71 or 70 since we will never see the complete fillmore west 69 again.
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The more I listen to this box, the better it gets. I'm up to the Rheinhalle show now, and even though everyone's already heard this show before, it sounds even better now. I'm having a great time exploring these shows and am getting a better appreciation of some lesser-known gems (Chinatown Shuffle has been surprisingly awesome, to me). I love picking previously-released songs out of complete shows. I can't wait to listen to the rest, then start over, then pick random songs from random shows, etc. Couple other things: - I know everyone has said it, but this really is all about the music. I wouldn't want to think about lugging around 22 shows, though, so the box does serve a purpose. But as much as I was let down by lack of "goodies", the music, album artwork (wow) and liner notes are top notch. The packaging has already been ripped apart by everyone so no need for me to add my two cents. - As much as it is all about the music, the hardcover book is also a must-have and I would hope they eventually offer it to those who were unable to grab onto one of the first 7200 sets. The pictures do a fantastic job of giving you an idea of what those shows were like and there are some great essays. - Without knowing what the plan is regarding continued production of the "All Music" edition is concerned, I have a hard time believing they'd package the shows for individual release. Rather, I can definitely see them releasing them digitally (which is, of course, much cheaper and less of a risk). Alternatively, I can see them releasing the music via USB drive much like The Beatles did a couple years ago. In addition to preserving the artwork, liner notes, et al electronically, they could add the much-referenced "tour roadmap" that can also act as navigation from show-to-show. Just a thought, obviously. - Lastly, I can honestly say I, personally, am not counting the days until the next box/massive box. This will take me a while to get through. Thanks again everyone. Back to the music I go.
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In France, just got my shipping e-mail. For info, it comes to $623.20, but they said in the previous e-mail that they would refund part of the shipping cost. However, something worries me - it says it's being shipped by USPS Priority. They had said they would be shipped from Amsterdam by a European courier service...
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Unlike UPS, USPS do not ship door-to-door worldwide. They ship to a point of entry in foreign lands, where someone else takes over. In this case it is quite possible, even probable, that the boxes will ship to Amsterdam with USPS Priority and from there to individual addresses by a courier service. If I remember correctly, the original international shipping options were UPS or USPS. I wouldn't worry about this unless you're the worrying kind!
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I have also recieved my shipping notice. It says it was shipped today and will arrive about September 20th. The total cost is $647.50, including Swedish sales tax, which is 25 percent on records (it's a bit unfair since the sales tax on books, magazines and newspapers is only 6 percent). We'll see when the box set really arrives. Hopefully it will not take another 12 days. Micke Östlund, Växjö, Sweden ------------------------------ My record collection: jazzmicke
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It makes no sense to ship via USPS. They can send the whole lot to any European city and save a ton on trans-Atlantic shipping, then have them onforwarded from there. From the email, it looks as each box has been sent individually via USPS, who does not do the kind of shipping I described.
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I wouldn't worry about them shipping USPS to Europe just because you got an email from them saying they did. If you happen to be keeping score at home, they have yet to send an email that is accurate. For instance, if they send you an email saying that your package has shipped, that means you had your package delivered last week. I will admit that I am getting a bit ornery, since I am still awaiting delivery of my personalized box in the US. My crime? TWO MONTHS AGO I changed my address from an old PO box to a new residential address. It apparently is still winding its way through the myriad computer systems that they have running. Yup, yesterday I got an email saying they had an address problem, probably because I had a PO box (which was only called in 4x in the last two months). Of course, what can you expect from a MAIL ORDER BUSINESS that is inundated with 7,000 orders from 8 months ago. No one could handle that.
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I love the box set. Such a cool, worthy and nicely done project. The sound quality is awesome! A couple of my discs had some problems, pressing issues, really. Two out of 73 ain't bad, when you really think about it. I contacted the customer service folks through Dead.net with my specifics and they are getting it all sorted for me with two replacements. No problem. They got back in touch with me quickly and the ball is now rolling along.
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  • GreenBeing
    2 months ago
    Also Late To The Party

    I also wish to know if another printing of the All-Music edition is contemplated, or even flac downloads. I am with child to hear this music!

  • d3adf1sh
    6 months ago
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    RE:drdogg - You can actually get every one of the concerts off amazon as an MP3 downloads but who wants MP3's YUCK! Please powers that be, can we get a repress? or at the least a Hi-Res DL? hard to pay the 5 grand people are asking for these Euro72 boxes online. especially with all the talk of defective discs.
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    Achilles Thomas
    10 months 3 weeks ago
    Late to the party - again
    hi, that is true - rerelease them.