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Here's to a great show tonight. What a thrill that the family from all over the world will be able to check in......hope iclips is ready for the onslaught it is going to get. No matter what your political preference, have a great night!

You'll need to register an identity on their site BEFORE you can access content, so if you haven't done that already sooner would probably be better than later. A flood of signups might also give them a clue as to how much server bandwidth they should try to have available, and perhaps even enough time to do something about it if required. It would really suck if they underestimate demand, as everyone will get screwed if their site gets overwhelmed. Let's hope that doesn't happen. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

I can't defend you guys from your detractors anymore. This cheapens the experience for me in a very fundamental way. How sad that something so musically and culturally unique and beautiful.......ugh.....(tears)....... Will we see your CDs exclusively at Starbucks or WalMart next?

Would this sort of thing go on if Jerry had something to say about it?I don't think so. Hope everybody has a great show!

"This won’t be the Dead members’ first foray into electoral politics; they played a benefit for Al Gore’s presidential campaign in 1999; Gore’s wife Tipper sat in on the drums. Lesh, Kreutzmann, and Hart played a John Kerry fundraiser in 2004." Anybody remember this? Also, thanks Mr. Pid for the tip. Finally, sorry for the multiple posts above, don't know what caused that.?.!

Speaking as an outsider unversed in the ways of campaigning, can someone answer this rather naïve question. How is this event supposed to help Mr Obama? Looking at the low ticket prices and small venue and after deducting unavoidable expenses its not going to raise much money. If the real object was money raising they would have played somewhere larger or charged fundraiser ticket prices, no? It’s called Deadheads for Obama, but will attended by scant few deadheads it seems. So the boys are playing what is basically a private party for campaign insiders….how does that help? Is it all just to get a nationwide webcast or just to raise profile? Are deadheads a defined demographic unit that Obama thinks could help him? I hope it’s a great event, but won’t the band just be playing to a hall full of mystified suits? Can someone explain…

This is awful, what a damned shame. Jerry would not approve. Why after all these years would they now decide to wallow in the mud of politics? Thanks a lot Bobby, keep working on sullying the legacy of the Dead. Further, Bill has the good sense to stay away from this travesty, ergo, this is no reunion. Jerry never voted anyway.

And those of you heads that are now voting for Obama based on this, pathetic.

Obama has threatened military force against both Iran and Pakistan. Do we need more of this? Ron Paul is committed to bringing our troops home, not just from Iraq, but from all over the world. Check him out and listen to his message.

I agree!!

For Obama? Against Obama?Who friggin' cares? Vote your own conscience. In the meantime, WE GET TO SEE A SHOW! Whether it proves to be of particular significance to Mr. Obama's campaign certainly does remain to be seen. As noted, it can't possibly raise a tremendous amount of cash, but capital does come in many denominations. One of those denominations is Awareness. Perhaps some would like to think of Deadheads as a targetable demographic, but I think that the diversity of opinion reflected just on this topic alone amply demonstrates what a foolish notion that is. Just because somebody wears a suit to work doesn't mean that they're not wearing tie dye underwear beneath it, a point I believe I made recently in another thread. All I know is I've got definite plans for two musical events today. Across The Universe at 7PM EST, and then DHFO about 3 1/2 hours later. Can't wait! Happy Fab Feb 4! Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

Come on guys...I think I am forced to re-evaluate a favorite all time band. I thought the Dead were above siding with politicians. I have been a Dead head for a long time and think I would miss this show because it is politically driven. Artist should remain neutral when related to politics because it usually results in FAN TURNOFF, in which I am experiencing. I categorize this effort on similar lines as the Dixie chicks making a political statement on stage in efforts to persuade fans. Dont get me wrong I will always love the music, but is this what Jerry would have wanted for the band? DONT THINK SO!

"Thanks a lot Bobby, keep working on sullying the legacy of the Dead." Umm, this is basically Phil's band with the addition of Weir and Hart... Why are you bashing Bobby for this? I don't understand the tendency of many Deadheads to attack Bobby and favor Phil. For example, many blamed Weir for taking down the mp3's of the soundboards on archive.org, but Phil explicitly said on his site that Bob was not to blame. Why is Bob always seen as the bad guy? More on topic- One aspect of the Dead's music that I enjoy is that it is apolitical. I believe that music & art as Jerry understood it is meant to allow people to escape from these sort of day to day concerns, and should be primarily concerned with providing beauty or happiness or whatever. Music done in the name of politics turns me off. Once I was at a festical, heavily dosed, and every time the artist would bring up politics it made me want to go check out another band at the festival. Later I realized the reason I was turned off is because I felt like I was being force-fed propaganda. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that art that serves a political purpose is propaganda or at least very close to it. It's for these reasons I worry that the show tonight will be sub-standard. Why are Phil/Bobby/Mickey & the rest doing this? Do they see their fans as cattle that need to be herded/told what to do? Hopefully they are not using the Grateful Dead (a sacred thing for many people) as a means of getting more votes for the candidates that they support. I love the Dead and will continue to support the band. I'm not sure if I would go to the show if it were in my area. I'll definitely watch it on webcast tonight, although I'm not sure what to expect. Hopefully it will be a good thing.

but tonight is about a political awakening in the US and The remainingmembers are caught up in and want to celebrate with their fans. If it bothers you so much, that is fine and your opinion. Just because The Dead didn't come out and "make a statement" in the 60s and 70s officially; it didn't mean they weren't about something culturally and politically. Whether we like it or not, everything is related to politics. New to the Dead, raisin' little Deadheads and even the wife is coming around!

keep getting the error message The connection has timed out The server at www.iclips.net is taking too long to respond.

I was on ICLIPS when the show went 'live' and it just wouldn't open . . . now the entire site is crashed. this is both a good thing (for the band + Obama) and a bad thing (for us fans). Im sure as hell gonna keep on trying though. be well, dankdug

iclips is down...watfo?

I was ready and iclips is down :( Boo Hoo

when you get confused ....^%&^%$#@@!$#^*)(*&)( ya watch the web if it only worked

Hope they're ready for the traffic!

But the support for Obama is heartening. Not everyone turned into a right wing jerk wad in the community, and thats wonderful! Maybe now it will be safe for a non white person to go to shows again without getting the "what are YOU doing here" treatment (speaking from experience). If I remember my history correct, the band wasn't all THAT unpolitical. Rallies and fundraisers for Panthers and Angels? Yup. I don't care of Ann Coulter likes them, they still stand for good hearted people in my book. I'll keep trying to get on, and won't stop listening no matter what some close minded jerk thinks.

"this is a bullshit lie" jerry's not leavin the band I am miss ya guys

We blow the big ones. Now I am waiting for this site to crash, there are 1200 guests right now. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

do you think someone would have thought this might be popular and set it up so that more than 12 people can see it and hear the message - what a piece of c****

Delilajones Is it just us or is everybody looking at a white screen that says "Iclips"?????

ican't get in either Bob - - - - - - - - - - - - - http://spanishsunshinedaydream.blogspot.com/ http://www.facebook.com/photos.php?id=633338979 Spanish Jam

You got any response from their servers at all? I haven't been able to get a thing except primitive, low level network diagnostics back since the press conference ended. Conversation is always more interesting than recitation, so speak your mind and not someone else's.

I did get to the home page to log in, but then nothing, and nothing, and ...Really now, who didn't see this coming? Why give hiccups the GD publicity when they can't deliver?

I cannot log on. Why?

sorry for all the above that was wierd dont know what???just got in from outside my wife said it's on Sirius live from the Warfield opens Playin>BEW peace

http://iclips-live-1.wm.llnwd.net/iclips_live_1I'm using vlc media player

It took me an hour and a half of trying to finally get in. Who could have ever foreseen that there might be a lot of people interested in this??? hehehe On another point - I'm wondering if the shirts that Phil and people in the audience are wearing are going to be available anywhere... ??

Hopefully on www.deadnetstore.com

One of the signature attributes of the Dead was that they never (or rarely, if ever) used their fame from music as a soap box to shout personal or political interests from. The collective fans that so notably became 'deadheads' had one main commonality that made them so close, and that was the shared interest in music and environment that the Dead put forth, and anything else (such as political interests) followed this essential likeness in music. I'm not denying the fact that the Dead arose from a politically heated era in one of the most active regions of anti-war and anti-Vietnam ideology, but it was their profound dissociation to one specific political interest, in addition to their incredible music, that enabled the Dead to accumulate such an eclectic fan base. I'm not saying that I oppose this reunion show, fuck I'd give my right arm to go, I just think it definitely strays from what the Grateful Dead were. Perhaps Ken Kesey said it best in his farewell message to Jerry: "Nobody ever heard you use that microphone as a pulpit. No anti-war rants, no hymns to peace. No odes to the trees and All things Organic. No ego-deaths or born-againnesses. No devils denounced no gurus glorified. No dogmatic howlings that I ever caught wind of. In fact, your steadfast denial of dogma was as close as you ever came to having a creed. And to the very end, Old Timer, you were true to that creed. No commercials. No trendy spins. No bayings of belief. And if you did have any dogma you surely kept it tied up under the back porch where a smelly old hound belongs." With that said, GREAT SHOW! TOUR, TOUR, TOUR!!!

beenwaytoolongatsea yes dead and co have never spoken out in a unified public manner for any candidate or any public concern, but bush is so bad and the world to be inherited by the next executive is such a catastrophe that old chains, no longer UNBROKEN, drop, and unity now, in spirit and in music - rat in a drain ditch ..........

beenwaytoolongatsea hello this thing is some new news to me and I want to watch it, anybody out there who knows stuff - can this event "show" be seen, will it be archived, somewhere, where ....... I want to watch it I love the dead. and I think obama is cool and should be prez ........ been hidin' out inna rockn'roll bah bah bah

beenwaytoolongatsea is it kimock ... ??

the best few hours I have spent in real long time, too long, I hope this is a sign of the good things to come Hipsters,tripstirs, real cool chicks,sir, everyone's doin' that rag

I find it funny that the remaining Dead members are selling you all out..I hope you all know Bob Weir has been selling us all down to the elite for many years now. He is a member of The Bohemian Grove in northern Cali http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove The bizarre pagan ritual of the Bohemian Grove, the Cremation of Care ceremony, is practiced by its members (all men), including both Presidents Bush, Bill Clinton, Richard Nixon, Jimmy Carter, Colin Powell, and Henry Kissinger to name but a few (these are the people Wier hangs out with). In this ceremony, they worship a giant 40-foot OWL, and sacrifice a mock human being in effigy. This is Satanism folks! David Rockefeller is also a member of this group. Arnold Schwarzenegger has also attended it's meetings. Bohemian Grove is believe to be an offshoot of the Nazi based Skull and Bones. And Bob Wier is a proud member since 1988. So folks there you have it, you have been sold down the river. If you think Obama has your interests in mind think again, he already sold you out to Israel. Not that he will be selected as president anyway..Thats right, your leaders are selected not elected!! Look at the last 2 selections and tell me I'm lying. Go back to sleep fellow heads, your government is in control and Bob Wier is walking hand in hand with this ilk. Please look into this for yourselves. Only when seeking the truth will one find it. Best of luck to you all and peace be with you. Namaste

conspiracy theories rock! but on a more mundane note, could someone kindly calm down long enough to post a setlist/bandlist for those of us frozen out ;-) thanks!

Obama Concert 02/04/08 The Warfield San Francisco, CA Set 1, Electric Playin in the Band*> Brown-Eyed Women+ Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo+ New Minglewood Blues+* Come Together+* Set 2, Acoustic Deep Elem Blues> Friend of the Devil> Deal> Ripple# Set 3, Electric China Cat Sunflower*> Jam+*> The Wheel+*> The Other One* (with Meaty Phil Bass Intro)> Sugaree* Eyes of the World+* Throwin' Stones+*> Aiko-Aiko+*> Playin in the Band+* Encore: Phil: Get the Vote Out / Donor Rap> U.S. Blues+*& * With Mark Karan, Lead Guitar + With Barry Sless, Pedal Steel # Jackie Greene on Mandolin & RatDog Crewman Bill Waves Flag Over Band Band: Weir, Hart, Lesh, Molo, Molitz, Greene courtesy of Eurotraders

Please boys, BIODTL just one more time, I promise to behave and bring my family to the Greatest Story Ever Told. One More Summer Tour and I PROMISE I WILL STOP FOLLOWING YOU. Seriously please... Bueller..... Bueller.....Bueller.... Is there anybody out there! HI HO

dwolf420 said: Yadda Yadda Yadda Ultra Right Wing Christian Conspiracies Rock!!! "Even if we play so far above our heads that our noses bleed for a week to 10 days; even if God in Heaven above points his hand at our side of the field; even if every man, woman and child joined hands together and prayed for us to win, it just wouldn't MATTER because all the really good-looking girls would still go out with the guys from Mohawk because they've got all the money! It just doesn't MATTER if we win or if we lose. It just doesn't MATTER! " chant: IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER! IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!... IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!...

As hard as it was for me to make it to work on time this morning, I had a blast & I'm itching for some more. For me, its about the sweet, music. Come on Mr. Fantasy ~ Make us happy

Thoroughly enjoyed the show last night. If Obama wins will you get back together full-time? Critter See you on myspace! "The heat came round and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day."

I love that post up above - Who wouldn't want to hang out with Jimmy Carter and worship a 40-foot owl - that's awesome! Critter "The heat came round and busted me for smiling on a cloudy day."

for tickets and was bummed about it. I suspect they'll air it again in a few days... I want the Obama SYF symbol on a shirt, if I can get it. Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right.

http://www.iclips.net/deadheadsforobama.php It says rebroadcast at 2:30 and 7:30 pm pacific time, no other broadcasts are mentioned.

I know Mickey played there, but this is the first I've heard of Bob going to Bohemian Grove. Got any sources of info on that?

iclips is working and I'm watching the show!! Peace!! :)