Rock Legends to Play Obama Fundraiser
The Pennsylvania Campaign for Change has just announced a Monday, October 13 concert fundraiser to benefit Obama for America featuring many Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductees and other American music icons. Additionally, the show will be a very large voter outreach opportunity for the Pennsylvania Obama campaign, which has already built the largest volunteer-based campaign in Pennsylvania’s history. The campaign has more than 70 field offices and thousands of volunteers preparing for an unprecedented Get Out the Vote operation. There are now more than 1 million more Democrats in the state than Republicans, an increase of 500,000 since 2004.
Tickets will be available at 12:00 p.m. EDT on Friday, September 19, and are $50 for the general public and $30 for University Park students with a Pennsylvania State University ID. More ticket information is available online at:
WHO: Bob Weir, Phil Lesh, Bill Kreutzmann, and Mickey Hart, Gregg Allman, Butch Trucks, Jaimoe, Warren Haynes, Derek Trucks, Marc Quinones, Oteil Burbridge, and Jeff Chimenti
WHAT: Concert Fundraiser
WHERE: Bryce Jordan Center, Pennsylvania State University State College, PA
WHEN: Monday, October 13, 2008 - Doors Open 5:30 PM EDT
Why can't we create our own topics here? There's lots to talk about and interesting people to talk to about them but we are very restricted as to where we talk about it...To fully express ourselves we essentially have to hi-jack threads. The other political threads get about as much action as an elderly nun.
Anyway, here we go...
- William Blake is wrong. Perception is still a paradigm even if you could "clense" it, hence we need to gain knowlege without the distortion of perception; a priori knowlege aquisition, if you will. Perception in it's purest state, still distorts, by defintion.
-Ron Paul does make good points and I would like to see nothing more than these crooked ass companies, who used these mass amount of junk loans as collateral, go down. Where he makes his mistake is two fold. One, these companies gambled and pooled obsene amounts of money, enough to put the economy on it's knees. Second, we, the tax payer, will assume the debt anway when these companies declare bankrupcy. The bail out is more likely, the cheaper option. The good news here is that every one of the companies invovled are under investigation by the FBI...Anybody caught acting fraudulently, in this case will be made an example of. See Enron, lessons were not learned from 2000.
- The panthers the Dead played for were not the same violent ones as were on the east coast. They may have shared some philosophies, but at that time, those Pathers were community activists, not militants. I can't see the Dead playing a bennefit for people who hurt and kill other people; at least not intentionally.
MY TIX WERE JUST DELIVERD,FEEL MORE COMFORTABALE NOW THAT TICKETS ARE IN HAND,,, I BEEN TRYING TO STAY OUT OF ALL THIS BICKERING THATS BEEN GOING ON HERE SO I JUST WANT TO SAY ONE THING--IT IS WHAT IT IS- DONT TRY TO MAKE IT SOMETHING ITS NOT ,OR BELIVE IT SHOULD BE, THIS IS WERE THERE TAKING US LIKE IT OR NOT ITS WHAT THE BOYS ARE DOING,LETS HAVE FAITH THAT THE RIDE WILL TAKE US WERE IT SHALL,THE MUSIC IS PREVALLING THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT -NOT ABOUT WHO SOLD OUT,OR WHO SHOULD OR SHOULDNT BACK A POLITICAL PARTY OR WHAT JERRY WOULD OR WOULD NOT DO IF HE WAS STILL WITH US,ITS ABOUT THE MAGIC THAT WAS IN THE MUSIC, THATS WHAT KEPT US ALL TOGETHER,-- ON TOUR NOT EVERYBODY GOT ALONG, THE NITROUS DEALERS DIDNT GET A LONG WITH THE VENDORS,THE VENDORS DIDNT ALWAYS GET A LONG WITH THE SWINGERS, THE SWINGERS DIDNT GET ALONG WITH THE WARFRATS AND SO ON......BUT IT ALL WORKED TOGETER AS A WHOLE BECUSE OF OUR LOVE OF THE MUSIC,NO MATTER WHAT OUR DIFFRANCES WERE---ONE BIG SPIRALING BALL OF BREATHING ENERGY THAT NO ONE COULD STOP. I FOR ONE AM JUST HAPPY THE MUSIC GETS A CHANCE TO SHINE AGAIN, AND WE GET TO DANCE AT LEAST ONE MORE DAY,,,,SEE YA AT THE SHOW................JINGLE - FEW GOOD MEN MC - NEW YORK
Reverse socialism is not anything new you basically just outlined the first chapter of my business ethics class which is about Stockholder vs Stakeholder theory both which can to lead to different types of socialist society's. One controlled by more government regulations or corporations becoming unelected civil servants who do what they think is in the best interest for society or what they consider stakeholders.
I'm excited about the show do not care about the political ties it has even thought i wish this money went to something useful that could help people out instead of just more money for another commercial or some other waste.
I pretty much agree with your assertions, which could pretty much be made about all nations since the collapse of feudalism and the rise of nation states in the west. Dominated by descendents of the Frankish "lords", who became the nobility and ruling class of Western Europe, they moved to dominate the mercantile class as well - pretty much the only thing they could do with the rise of democracies. They have now subverted democracies as they subverted monarchies before them and the Church before that. Follow the money!
Interesting observations, and somewhere near the kernel of truth, I am afraid, if not a bit over the top. I hope to have some time later to continue the dialogue...
"The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer." - Ken Kesey
“…the bourgeoisie has at last, since the establishment of modern industry and of the world market, conquered for itself, in the modern representative state, exclusive political sway. The executive of the modern state is but a committee for managing the common affairs of the whole bourgeoisie.”
-Karl Marx & Friedrich Engels, The Communist Manifesto
even-handed judgement expressed. I am fatigued with the double standards that are universally utilized by the right and the left in judging situations, behaviors, philosophy, practice and so often used to excuse behaviors/practices of those they support and then smear or vilify the other side.
Here is my diagnosis of what we are really talking about. This isn't even socialism.
What, you say? Tim, are you nuts?!!!,
Yes of course I am. But listen and remember this phrase and as it creeps into the common vernacular, and I expect credit (if not a rebate, then maybe in the form of new music, Rhino?).
Our country has devolved into a 'REVERSE-SOCIALIST' form of government. Instead of socialism- where the government owns and operates business/corporations, our government is controlled/owned by big businesses and corporations = 'reverse socialism'.
These entities make decisions that keep paramont the corporate/business interests and any individual/societal/community interests are secondary (if even rising to that importance).
It is like the Superman Bizzaro world, where everything is in reverse. For example, instead of public safety regulations being the most important, our business/corportate-controlled government focuses primarily on what will sustain and ensure corporate interests. Even if that means danger to the public. Reverse-socialism!
The founding father's did not intend for the market to control America. They thought the capitalism would enhance the culture but they did not envison the corporate stranglehold that currently calls the shots in the modern USA. The founding fathers would turn in their graves (like pinwheels) to witness what currently passes for the republic that they invented. And how in this age, the constitution that they lovingly and painstakingly fashioned has been turned into toliet paper by the reverse-socialist government.
The greatest political experiment in the history of man has been highjacked by an unelected cabal of meglomaniacal radical capitalist extremists who worship money over all. They worship money above any deity, above any alliegence to country, creed, culture, or even the continuation of this republic.
It is a reverse-socialism. There is probably a better (fancier) or more descriptive or elegant term. This 'frankenstein' has been created within/by this culture and as with Mary Shelly's beast, it will destroy it's creator without significant intervention.
So grab the torches, call out to all, rile up the village, and GET OUT THE VOTE. That is what they fear the most. The status quo promote blind obedience, lockstep, partisanship, rancor, and especially ignorance on the issues of the day. Beware the 'big lie' game.
Please vote. For whomever you see as having any chance of making a difference, or who has some conviction intact, or whoever you judge as willing to call for change. That is what I am going to do.
And as usual, when I get up on my soapbox on my high horse, I usually fall off.
All opinons expressed are mine. Others are encouraged to come up with a better handle for this perversion identified as 'reverse socialism'.
Thanks for the civil discourse that is occuring here. Much appreciated.
As socialist as that bailout. I like Ron Paul's take on it:
"Whenever a Great Bipartisan Consensus is announced, and a compliant media assures everyone that the wondrous actions of our wise leaders are being taken for our own good, you can know with absolute certainty that disaster is about to strike.
The events of the past week are no exception.
The bailout package that is about to be rammed down Congress’ throat is not just economically foolish. It is downright sinister. It makes a mockery of our Constitution, which our leaders should never again bother pretending is still in effect. It promises the American people a never-ending nightmare of ever-greater debt liabilities they will have to shoulder. Two weeks ago, financial analyst Jim Rogers said the bailout of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac made America more communist than China! “This is welfare for the rich,” he said. “This is socialism for the rich. It’s bailing out the financiers, the banks, the Wall Streeters.”"
"The need for mystery is greater than the need for an answer." - Ken Kesey
I keep trying, but to no avail