Grateful Dead

August 27 - September 2, 2007

Tapers Section By David Lemieux

I undertook the Taper's Section last November with a pretty simple vision: to have fun providing folks a regular opportunity to hear vault material that kept their interest in Grateful Dead music fresh.

Recently, I and others that work on became aware that certain fans had been regularly downloading the tracks offered in the Taper Section. From the very beginning, this program has always been intended to be a "for streaming only" service. Downloading was never announced, described or promoted in any manner. The situation that developed over the past months is very different than my original plan.

Where we’re at today requires us to step back, gather some information, do some thinking and get back to you. In the meantime, we ask that you all realize that's and GDP's commitment to the Dead Head community is unchanged. We’re very excited to be hard at work with Rhino on a number of very cool releases and programs that you’ll be hearing about soon. Please bear with us until then.

See you next week,

This week, we’re going to explore some cool moments from the Family Dog in 1969, as well as some great material from 1980 and a taste of 1972.

Although most shows in the Bay Area in the late 1960s were BGP-produced concerts, there was a very hip alternative promoter, namely Chet Helms and his Family Dog at the Great Highway. At the end of the summer of ’69 (no Bryan Adams jokes, please), the Grateful Dead played a few shows at Chet’s cool venue, and from those shows we have some interesting material. From 8/29/69, we have a nice Easy Wind, Me and My Uncle>High Time, as well as the show-closing Lovelight, and from the next night, 8/30/69, we have a very good Morning Dew from early in the show. Be sure to check back next week for another rare track from the Family Dog in 1969.

One thing we always get excited about is a great tour with consistently great performances, with highlights too numerous to list. The mid-August to early-September 1980 tour is one such stretch of shows, and we have a few examples of great material from this tour this week. Unfortunately, two of the best shows from the tour are not in the vault (9/6 at Lewiston and 9/2/80 at Rochester), but what does live in the vault is exceptional. From 8/27/80 at Pine Knob in Michigan, the second set opening trio of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider>C.C. Rider (or China>Rider>Rider, if you will) is as high energy as they come. From three nights later in Philadelphia we have the ending sequence of the show on 8/30/80, featuring Space>Not Fade Away>Black Peter>Sugar Magnolia, One More Saturday Night. A classic 1980 sequence if there ever was one. Unfortunately, the first set of this show is not in the vault. Finally from this tour, we have the show opener on 8/31/80 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, with a rocking duo of Alabama Getaway>Promised Land. As the flipside to the Philly show above, the second set from this Cap Center show is not in the vault.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of tracks from the first night of the Europe 72 tour, the first two songs played on the tour, in fact. Both of these songs from 4/7/72 in London have a little extra something, as the band was clearly happy to be playing in Europe, a feeling that would evidently continue through the final show on 5/26/72 in London. Oh, yes, the songs: Greatest Story Ever Told and Sugaree. Enjoy.

Be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some music from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1985. It’s going to be a busy week. Feel free to write anytime with questions or comments.

David Lemieux
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Joined: Jun 13 2007

I really enjoyed the downloads but I also enjoy the streaming....thanks a million for all your hard work and providing some really fantastic music....

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Joined: Jun 7 2007
note to newhead117

You will never be "satisfied". Moments of momentary bliss will only drive the urge to hunt down more.

Like many things, now that I think about it...

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Joined: Jun 8 2007

The simple fact is that IF Rhino knew their deadhead market, they would know that mp3s are a second best for us. No trading takes place in that format (that I know of) and we always want the best sound quality for whatever we get.

So the mp3s acted as a taster for people for shows they hadn't heard before. Show becomes available. They buy.

Instead, an alienated market who will turn their backs on Rhino. Me? I live in England, and Rhino's postal charges, up THREE times on GDM's mean I won't buy a single thing from them. And I'm looking on the shelves above my desk at the entire commercial output of the Dead, bar some really sucky 80s and 90s shows (exit, stage left, ducking ;-> ).

Essentially, UNLESS it was a copyright problem (in which case they would have told us, surely), then it was a dumb thing to do. Way to go, Rhino.

JP, The Limey Bastard :-)

Joined: Jul 19 2007
richard - good point..

I could take a photo of it, or any other masterpiece the museum displays (which they do with their rules and restrictions that I also choose to respect) However, I would liken that to using a tape deck and microphone to "tape" the music as it streams from the computer speakers (which we could still do.).
With respect-

Joined: Jul 9 2007
Don't pull the plug dave

This was always too good to be true, but it was always exactly what the grateful dead were about. I would feel really heartbroken if you guys down in the control room there were to shut this down because we (the people who Jerry spoke so fondly of in every interview I've ever heard, the people who Bob and Phil and Bill and Mickey and Brent and Keith and Donna And Pigpen all spoke so fondly about) are downloading what you`ve put out their for our own musical enjoyment to download and copy to cd and play in our car on our way to work. Alot of us never got a chance to download much from or here, and I still have about 1000 maxell XLII cassette tapes in my garage right now, and I love them sooo much, I was cleaning out the other and couldn't dare even think about throwing them out. I was so excited to think I could start rebuilding my collection on cd's with these awesome mp3 you've been putting up and which we are allllll so GRATEFUL for!!!
We always be able to go back to trading Maxell XLII's but those days seem to have died with Jerry. This was the grateful Dead's way of once again being the leader of a new phase, Remember the wall of sound?!?!?!?! Remember when the Allman Brotheres said you guys can tape but you cant transfer ftp files to trade our music, The dead were once again the innovators of this new way of having control over the music they chose to share with their fans.
Please don't decide that it's detrimental loss but rather maybe choose well what you decide to share.
I recall the first few taper's section's had far fewer files each week, and I think you were having so much fun you might have got carried away and decided to just pour em out. well you can always be more selective about what you put out, after all, We all had so many of the dick's pick's on tape when they released em and maybe they weren't from the vault but what are you going to do?! sell us every show from the vault on an official release ????
I don't think so.
I'd like to take this opportunity to tell everyone about (there might be a mispelling) It's stuff you listen to from bill graham present's from 65 onward.
Hand me my old guitar and pass the whiskey 'round.

Joined: Sep 1 2007

Hi all, I'm a new deadhead (hence the username) of 19 years and have never been to a Grateful Dead concert in my life. You can say I've never fully experienced what it truly means to be a "Deadhead", which is why I scour the net for as many of these experiences that I can find. This website has truly helped me in a lot of ways. But I think I am one of those "certain fans" as well...

I only recently finally found the Taper's Section a month ago. After I downloaded the songs for that corresponding week I was left unsatisfied. I opted to go back through the previous weeks and pick up what I had missed, whatever looked interesting. I apologize if my actions caused any problems with the "system". I hope you do not see my actions as a blow against your corporation. I merely wished to learn about and become familiar with all this amazing music.

I am not on the best financial terms at the moment, so it's hard for me to purchase official releases all the time. Everything is expensive. But I do what I can with what I have and finally bought my first "DP" volume (and am looking for more!), which was not a waste of money by any means. I do not regret spending the money. In addition, I intend to continue purchasing more of these excellent releases until my collection is satisfied.

I appreciate the time you've put into this wonderful commodity, and I'm sad to see it "go". I enjoyed what you had to say about the music you chose to give us. I feel I now have a greater understanding of the Dead's music and history.

However, it is foolish to post mp3 files and expect no one to download them. In fact, when I'd click the link for a certain song, the only choice I was give was to download them. I was given no option to stream (not that I would've streamed anyway: streams are far more repulsive to my ears than mp3 and are almost completely unlistenable with the ever-present "digital rumble" throughout).

I am grateful for what I've gotten and I hope someone at Rhino sees the light and the joy of this music and the amazingly cool fans and gives us back the mp3 downloads. Or at least give us an option in the future.

Thanks for everything. Thanks for giving new life to an old legacy.

Joined: Jun 6 2007
Lossy format?

Isn't it kind of a sin to deal in Mp3 anyway? Who ever reached 'new sonic highs' on that format?

Thanks fo putting the section together; it is fun for quick bits and bites.

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Joined: Jun 7 2007

About that Monet you saw at the museum - Were you allowed to take a photograph of it?

Joined: Jul 19 2007
Love the easy wind!!!!!

the more pig the better. Once again thanks david. As I was looking for the bob dylan taper section to stream his live music archive I found none. After looking to locate the allman brothers site that streamed free live shows I found none. Same is true of almost all of the bands/artists that I love. I was not allowed to take home the monet I saw at the museum either. But you have continued to deliver each and every monday and for this I thank you. and let me speak for my friends, brothers and sisters who LOVE the Grateful Dead - This music brings us together and we love you for sharing what you have to share. If sometimes WE don't get it - fucks on us! You don't owe us a thing. We owe you are appreciaton. BLESS YOU!!!

Joined: Aug 20 2007
great post highvibe!

I agree with many other posts I've read today. The explanation is very flimsy at best and it seems to have a tone of "did you really expect this to last forever? are you stupid?"

I also think though that Rhino is unable/unwilling to adapt like other music labels in the area of digital content. I'm probably generalizing, but no one really wants to sit in front of their computer and stream audio - computer speakers typically suck and this method does nothing for the person who wants to listen in the car, at work, at the gym, etc.

Just my $0.02 - I'm undecided on whether I'll purchase any of these alleged forthcoming CDs. I agree that the community has no right to free MP3s, but the way they were unceremoniously removed and the way the explanation was conveyed, has left a bad taste...


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