Grateful Dead

August 27 - September 2, 2007

Tapers Section By David Lemieux

I undertook the Taper's Section last November with a pretty simple vision: to have fun providing folks a regular opportunity to hear vault material that kept their interest in Grateful Dead music fresh.

Recently, I and others that work on became aware that certain fans had been regularly downloading the tracks offered in the Taper Section. From the very beginning, this program has always been intended to be a "for streaming only" service. Downloading was never announced, described or promoted in any manner. The situation that developed over the past months is very different than my original plan.

Where we’re at today requires us to step back, gather some information, do some thinking and get back to you. In the meantime, we ask that you all realize that's and GDP's commitment to the Dead Head community is unchanged. We’re very excited to be hard at work with Rhino on a number of very cool releases and programs that you’ll be hearing about soon. Please bear with us until then.

See you next week,

This week, we’re going to explore some cool moments from the Family Dog in 1969, as well as some great material from 1980 and a taste of 1972.

Although most shows in the Bay Area in the late 1960s were BGP-produced concerts, there was a very hip alternative promoter, namely Chet Helms and his Family Dog at the Great Highway. At the end of the summer of ’69 (no Bryan Adams jokes, please), the Grateful Dead played a few shows at Chet’s cool venue, and from those shows we have some interesting material. From 8/29/69, we have a nice Easy Wind, Me and My Uncle>High Time, as well as the show-closing Lovelight, and from the next night, 8/30/69, we have a very good Morning Dew from early in the show. Be sure to check back next week for another rare track from the Family Dog in 1969.

One thing we always get excited about is a great tour with consistently great performances, with highlights too numerous to list. The mid-August to early-September 1980 tour is one such stretch of shows, and we have a few examples of great material from this tour this week. Unfortunately, two of the best shows from the tour are not in the vault (9/6 at Lewiston and 9/2/80 at Rochester), but what does live in the vault is exceptional. From 8/27/80 at Pine Knob in Michigan, the second set opening trio of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider>C.C. Rider (or China>Rider>Rider, if you will) is as high energy as they come. From three nights later in Philadelphia we have the ending sequence of the show on 8/30/80, featuring Space>Not Fade Away>Black Peter>Sugar Magnolia, One More Saturday Night. A classic 1980 sequence if there ever was one. Unfortunately, the first set of this show is not in the vault. Finally from this tour, we have the show opener on 8/31/80 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, with a rocking duo of Alabama Getaway>Promised Land. As the flipside to the Philly show above, the second set from this Cap Center show is not in the vault.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of tracks from the first night of the Europe 72 tour, the first two songs played on the tour, in fact. Both of these songs from 4/7/72 in London have a little extra something, as the band was clearly happy to be playing in Europe, a feeling that would evidently continue through the final show on 5/26/72 in London. Oh, yes, the songs: Greatest Story Ever Told and Sugaree. Enjoy.

Be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some music from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1985. It’s going to be a busy week. Feel free to write anytime with questions or comments.

David Lemieux
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Joined: Jun 8 2007
New Exlusive Channel!!!

On Catstar satellite radio. All hairballs, all the time!

Joined: Jun 28 2007
taper section

I am also guilty of downloading and then listening to the music. Streaming doesn't always seem to work as MP3 with me - and I'm not too tech savvy either. However, I don't copy and sell/trade the music. It's only with me and I erase many of the tunes due to questionable quality or lack of interest in listening to a piece of music again. Personally I would buy/trade complete shows. Bits and pieces in the trader section are only for my personal use and what difference is it if I download and then instead of coming back to this website to re-listen to a tune simply clicking on the tune on my PC? It whets my appetite and make me want to buy a whole show and I think that is what a lot of us deadheads are interested in. The comment that a group of us (who download the music) are spoiling it for other people seems a bit harsh and uncalled for. Remember, and it was stated in an earlier comment, the dead fan base will probably not grow - the fan base is what it is now. It would probably be best to come to a compromise as oppose to alienating your fan base.


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Joined: Jun 20 2007
On those stages of Heartbreak

Regarding those 17 stages of heartbreak - I'm at one of the last ones {I think} - It's called acceptance. I don't want to lie down and take it, but what can we do except voice our collective disapproval/disgust?
That doesn't seem to be doing much, either. "I guess It Doesn't Matter Anyway..."
I am glad I did get what I could, which was everything up until last week, and that I saved it all on the hard drive. This is because last night I accidentally erased my whole 80 gig ipod. If I had counted on this always being here, I would have been one unhappy camper.
David, please talk some sense into Rhino - I can't stream this stuff at work, and I don't think I have the capability at home because I run Linux. We're not burning discs and running around selling them, and there should be enough stuff that will eventually be released that we all would buy.
A very wise man once said something to the effect of, "Once we've played the music, we're done with it..." Apparently now that he's gone, you guys aren't done with it.

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Joined: Jun 4 2007
File Sizes

I would first like to apologize to the dead horse I am about to flog... anyone notice that when the "Streaming MP3's" were available, their file sizes were listed right next to the songs themselves. Now the files are "Streaming Windows Media or Quicktime" the file sizes are gone. I'd like to note that if you would like us to believe that you didn't know that we were downloading that you should put the file sizes back next to the streaming song links.

I'm just sayin'...

| I'm just a, well...porpoise. |

Joined: Aug 12 2007
Thank you, David!

Thank you indeed for taking the time to share all of this wonderful music with the fans. I love the idea of getting to listen to choice selections picked by the vault master himself, based on particular weeks in the history of the Dead. Very enjoyable.
I too, like so many others, am disappointed we can no longer download the music. I could be wrong, but I believe this is soley Rhino driven.
Big business has once again reared its ungly head...
I buy every Dead release that comes out. I love hearing anything new, entire shows from days past, and even compilations of various unreleased material, be it live or otherwise. Please be assured, Mr. Bigs at Rhino, you are not losing any of that all-American-almighty-dollar from me by allowing me to download the music that I love and enjoy so much.
Please don't be stingy. Bring back the mp3!

Joined: Jun 13 2007

Ed PLEASE reconsider. Don't let the cats be a one hit wonder. You are sitting on a gold mine! Does this mean tonight's show is cancelled? I was looking forward to the " Cat Purring" breakout.

Joined: Jul 24 2007
only voted 1 star cause 0

only voted 1 star cause 0 wasn't an option.
weak excuse. everyone knows you can download MP3's.

Joined: Aug 31 2007
I don't care who didn't realise what and when...

... but come on guys. True, a Dead stream is still better than the junk you get from the rest of the net, but being able to play them on a stereo with proper sound (which is what the Dead are all about, I thought) was really something! Why fix something that ain't broke? This site is brilliant, I love it. But I only registered as a user today to say what a sorry move this was. The streaming, not my registering.

Joined: Jun 25 2007
TigerLilly's suggestion...

Thanks for the suggestion, but I think I'm done with cat horking for now. I'm tired of it, so I imagine others might be too.

I posted the URL for all the cat .wav files, so if anyone else is familiar with HTML, maybe they can post the stuff in the Lilly Allen thread. There is lot's of caterwauling available! I've never heard Lilly Allen's work, so I can't really comment about her.

Joined: Jun 25 2007
bunch of dung

I am trying to picture myself back in the 80's when my buddy would bring tapes over for me to copy only now saying "oh, you cannot copy them. You have to sit here and listen only." The shows were allowed to be recorded....allowed to be shared. Jerry said when they were done with the show we could have it. It is only because of greedy folk does this stuff happen. I certainly do not remember greed as part of the atmosphere at any show. This site sucks now. Later.


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