Grateful Dead

August 27 - September 2, 2007

Tapers Section By David Lemieux

I undertook the Taper's Section last November with a pretty simple vision: to have fun providing folks a regular opportunity to hear vault material that kept their interest in Grateful Dead music fresh.

Recently, I and others that work on dead.net became aware that certain fans had been regularly downloading the tracks offered in the Taper Section. From the very beginning, this program has always been intended to be a "for streaming only" service. Downloading was never announced, described or promoted in any manner. The situation that developed over the past months is very different than my original plan.

Where we’re at today requires us to step back, gather some information, do some thinking and get back to you. In the meantime, we ask that you all realize that dead.net's and GDP's commitment to the Dead Head community is unchanged. We’re very excited to be hard at work with Rhino on a number of very cool releases and programs that you’ll be hearing about soon. Please bear with us until then.

See you next week,
David

This week, we’re going to explore some cool moments from the Family Dog in 1969, as well as some great material from 1980 and a taste of 1972.

Although most shows in the Bay Area in the late 1960s were BGP-produced concerts, there was a very hip alternative promoter, namely Chet Helms and his Family Dog at the Great Highway. At the end of the summer of ’69 (no Bryan Adams jokes, please), the Grateful Dead played a few shows at Chet’s cool venue, and from those shows we have some interesting material. From 8/29/69, we have a nice Easy Wind, Me and My Uncle>High Time, as well as the show-closing Lovelight, and from the next night, 8/30/69, we have a very good Morning Dew from early in the show. Be sure to check back next week for another rare track from the Family Dog in 1969.

One thing we always get excited about is a great tour with consistently great performances, with highlights too numerous to list. The mid-August to early-September 1980 tour is one such stretch of shows, and we have a few examples of great material from this tour this week. Unfortunately, two of the best shows from the tour are not in the vault (9/6 at Lewiston and 9/2/80 at Rochester), but what does live in the vault is exceptional. From 8/27/80 at Pine Knob in Michigan, the second set opening trio of China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider>C.C. Rider (or China>Rider>Rider, if you will) is as high energy as they come. From three nights later in Philadelphia we have the ending sequence of the show on 8/30/80, featuring Space>Not Fade Away>Black Peter>Sugar Magnolia, One More Saturday Night. A classic 1980 sequence if there ever was one. Unfortunately, the first set of this show is not in the vault. Finally from this tour, we have the show opener on 8/31/80 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, with a rocking duo of Alabama Getaway>Promised Land. As the flipside to the Philly show above, the second set from this Cap Center show is not in the vault.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of tracks from the first night of the Europe 72 tour, the first two songs played on the tour, in fact. Both of these songs from 4/7/72 in London have a little extra something, as the band was clearly happy to be playing in Europe, a feeling that would evidently continue through the final show on 5/26/72 in London. Oh, yes, the songs: Greatest Story Ever Told and Sugaree. Enjoy.

Be sure to check back in next week when we’ll have some music from 1969, 1972, 1973 and 1985. It’s going to be a busy week. Feel free to write anytime with questions or comments.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net

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"rate this" week(s)

tj crowley

notice the voice of "THE PEOPLE"..over the months rarely was there any feed-back (other than posting thankyou's) on the 'rate this' section..maybe 3 or 4 votes...NOW with the decision to go stream the response there (as well the posting's and 'feedback' section(s) has been overwhelming POOR..not the quality of the choices (i haven't heard yet but historically has always beed superb) but rather the decision to stream or better yet..limit access to because most of us DON'T listen to music via the computor...just a point of interest..what i have noticed is an overwhelming response of traders to assist each other on how to download from stream and/or set up communication to trade...YES! "UNITED 'WE' STAND"
"WE" are no closer the the answer than when 'WE" began...so let of voice(s) fill the void so all my know..that in the land of the nite..the ship of the sun..is (not) drawn by king rhino"

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I think its about time to wrap it up

Move along folks, nothing to see here.

But, for what its worth: Tapers paid to attend shows and make AUDience recordings. Trading of AUD recordings is not in any way discouraged digitally or otherwise.

However, the soundboard recordings "From The Vault" are an investment made by the GD. They paid people to man the boards. They continue to pay people to mix down the recordings even if they end up here. Look, money isn't all bad. It is surely paying the rent for the vault. Hard earned DeadHead money made the vault possible. It became clear with the "From The Vault" series that the vault's recordings would be leveraged for sales, not handouts. The MP3's are gone. Mondays were a lot more fun with 'em, but all things pass sooner or later.

Now, everybody, get back into trading! Its legal and fun!

| I'm just a, well...porpoise. |

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They Know Where You Live

Careful Phil, Rhino knows where you live. I wonder if they'd be dumb enough to sick the Man on Taper's Section mp3 downloaders when the website never explicitly said the mp3s where not for download, the name Taper's Section implies the mp3s where for download and the mp3s were their, unsecured, for the taking. If they did that, they might as well close up shop and ship the Vault back up to Marin County.

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14 Vol. Tapers Section in MP3 format.

Hey folks, thought I would burn the whole Tapers Section in CD. Came out with 14 CDS with 8-10 hours of GD music in MP3 format. Thats about 126 hours of classic GD. I have my own home made box set. I really hope that this new site can save its self. I will keep waiting for Rhino to throw us a bone. Keep Jamming.
Coconut Phil.

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Applause

Don Wolfe! A most sensible post!

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The dog has not been fed in years

If you have posted on this week's or last week's Taper Section page more than five times, you might consider giving it a rest. Isn't there laundry to fold, bikes to ride, family to talk to, bills to pay? Hasn't one person or another said most everything there is to say about TS, Rhino, streaming, etc. probably more than once? 80 pages ought to be plenty; why not get on with your lives and see what happens? Someone out in the real world misses you.

Life goes on . . .

(The poems were nice though.)

DW

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a proposed solution

Well guys, as you should all be well aware, you cannot keep this stuff in the bag. As Jerry said, once it's out there, it's not YOURS anymore. That's the truth. This music is ours, just as much as it is David's or Rhino's... despite any contractual whatever, most of us have downloaded or burned soundboards, with the blessing of the artists who created the music. You already gave it to us! Bob, Phil, Bill, Mickey... you guys made this music, and you have CERTAINLY made plenty of money from all of us over the years.... we love you, we thank you, and we truly have a symbiotic relationship. All we are asking for is to enjoy what we love, and the truth is that we are all completely willing to pay you and your organzation more money for it -- but the format you have established has an eerie pusher-junkie quality to it. Rhino must understand the dynamic of this addiction, so they are holding out, presumably with the idea that a strung out junkie will pay more when the stuff finally comes around. But they are alienating their core clients... and, as we all know, there are other sources for this stuff and maybe that's where we should all be intent on going. It strikes me that Rhino is probably just interested in doing major distributions of whatever they choose to "release". That's fine for the crowd in Record & Tape Traders or whatever who might get newly turned on... but think about your relationship with the hardcore fans that are in your pocket -- the junkies. For one, we are used to Vault releases coming fast and furious. The Download Series was a great idea that should have continued.
Why not open up the Vault? Many others have suggested a subscription. You could even charge a pretty nice price for this, and people would pay it. You could, even, charge like $20 for a full show download. That's how much I would pay to go see the Dead. Sh&t, I'm paying three times that to see Phil in NY. So think about it guys, please. Do you want to keep putting out "major releases" in packaged CDs that are resource-intensive and are just laden with overhead costs that burn holes in your pockets?? Just think, you can offer us the downloads, charge us the same amount of money, and keep it all (no middleman whatsoever) !! Get smart!!! I mean, you've already done this once before.
The solution to everyone's griping is just total access. Give it to us.... and charge us for it. By the way, thank you David for all your great work on these weekly selections. You've got a great job and you are doing it well. All the best, keep up the great work, and thank you for everything!!!

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SSDD?

It's actually here.

Cleaned up, 1st generation, with two-channel restored soundtrack. Complete with the missing intro, and bonus material at the end. Get your DVD burners warmed up! You're going to love it.

(You may, or may not get access, if the site is maxed out on users and won't let you create an account. In which case PM me and we'll see what else we can do..)

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Sugaree

The 4/7/72 Sugaree isn't playable. Greatest Story plays and ends, but no Sugaree follows. Sure would like to hear it.

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apology to david

hey david im sending you this apology for making remarks towards you yesterday. i said you were not honest with the fans in explaining away the removal of downloads. after thinking things through objectively today and talking to a friend. i realized that rhino was the entity that did this action. so i apology to you david. its too bad the dead hooked up with a company with attitude. oh well what you gonna do? i realized you had to say what you had to say in order to protect the dead net. from being punished by rhino.

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