Grateful Dead

June 18 - June 24, 2012

Tapers Section By David Lemieux

Welcome back to the Tapers' Section, where this week we have some fine tunes from 1970, 1974 and 1993.

Our first selection this week is the big jam from 2/11/70 at the Fillmore East in New York City, during one of the finest runs of the shows the Grateful Dead ever performed. From this night, we have Dark Star>Spanish Jam>Lovelight, featuring loads of special guests.

Next up is the third and final version of the musical palindrome consisteing of Playing In The Band>Uncle John's Band>Morning Dew>Uncle John's Band>Playing In The Band from 3/23/74 Cow Palace. This was part of Dick's Picks Vol. 24.

Lastly this week is some recent Grateful Dead music, from 1/26/93 in Oakland, where we have the start of Set 2: Man Smart, Woman Smarter>Eyes Of The World>Estimated Prophet>Terrapin Station. There was some fine music played by the Grateful Dead in the first half of 1993.

Be sure to join us here next week for more music from vault.

David Lemieux
vault@dead.net

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My Cross To Bear

Double T and others I concur with your
comments about the Gregg Allman book.

It's a good and easy read. He has more to
say than I imagined. He is in general very
benevolent towards all (even people like
Phil Walden who ripped him off), but there are
three major execptions: Dickey Betts, Jerry Garcia
and Dead Heads everywhere.

I had no idea the Dickey Betts issue was bigger
than North vs South or Capitalism vs Communism
or even Carolina vs Duke. Gregg goes out of
his way at each instance to rag on Dickey.
(he does credit him for his guitar work on Melissa
and for writing Ramblin' Man, but that's it)

His disgust for Dead Heads dancing at ABB shows
just seems like sour grapes and jealousy. He is
dissing half of his audience.

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Yes

He definitely could have. Would he have wanted to? I doubt it. Only he knows. John Molo was a good partner with him on the 98 tour.

Gosh...can't imagine the GD without Billy. That would have been a terrible terrible blow...thankfully never happened. He provide the pulse and feel for the whole thing - all 30 years. No offense to Mickey Hart but it was great without him (the greatest?) and couldn't have been the same/felt right wiithout Billy.

The Stones have been able to weather certain personnel things as a comparison. But there is no Rolling Stones without Charlie Watts. It's the same deal. I feel like Jerry, Phil and Billy are that core sound like Keith and Charlie w/ the Stones. You take any of these people out and really you have to call the band something else.

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Just wondering ...

Do you think Mickey could have handled the trap if Billy were to have taken leave or become incapacitated?

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Some good points

I agree wiht Stolzfus - for the most part I would rather not hear any special guests. Most of the time it does nothing for me, especially if it's a guitar player ( Steve Miller comes to mind). Some of the sax stuff was ok. Santana at Calaveras 87 is probably my favorite of the guitar player guests that I have heard.

mp51 ...I think that comments about the drummers was more of the "I just don't get it" vein. That said, being a drummer myself, on a technical level, Butch Trucks is probably right. Aside from the "Drums" segment, what Billy and Mickey did together for the most part during the songs was pretty lame in terms of what was possible and what actually was executed. They never organized anything - nothing was worked out. They only started to really separate their playing from one another toward the very end when Mickey started incorporating more non-drum set precussion into the actual songs, playing with mallets etc. They could have pushed the envelope a lot more. Instead for many years, it was two just guys playing drum sets, totally randomly. "Slop" if you will. They were in synch but that was it. From a non Deadhead point of view, it probably seemed silly. (And to that end, a lot of Deadheads probably preferred the one drummer arrangment better as well.) However Butch Trucks might want to listen to their own work because a lot of their drumming approach was the same thing - two guys just slamming away.

Anyway....that's the Grateful Dead. Making "sense" was never in the game plan! That's why we love 'em.

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too bad GA had a negative view of the GD

that doesn't detract from the cross pollination of 2/11/70, 7/16/72, or 6/10/73, however. All that is good stuff, and I tend to HATE the GD with guest artists.

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palindrome, sandwich, whatever....

More or less a semantic point. Of course the parts of the songs in the sequence are not palindromic. Perhaps another way to see it is that the Dead were treat whole songs and parts of songs like musical parts were traditionally treated. So song-structures such as abcba or aba are common. This is the dead at their compositionally most interesting, in a sense. But whatever, these are great bits of music!

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Gregg Allman

Like Double T I picked up on the comment by Gregg. I too like both the Allmans and the Dead although it seems that there wasn't too much kindred spirit feeling between the two. How much that is coloured by the fact that Gregg Allman was reputedly called a "narc" by Jerry I guess only Gregg knows!

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more allman's...

i remember reading a book about the allman bros (i was reading as much about duane as i could) and butch kinda trashed the dead on at least a couple of occasions. one, he said he thought he and jaimoe were way better than mickey and billy, and another time, post duane, when the bros jammed w the dead as to how dickey blew jerry off the stage.

i have always loved the allmans, but my interest in seeing them live faded after dickey left. but i have always felt there was a bit of jealousy they had for the dead and the level of success the dead achieved vs the allmans...

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1970 - never enough

I think '70 Dead is unsurpassed for passion, variety, and groove. The February. May and Sept Fillmore East shows, and the June and November shows at the Capitol Theater north of NYC are worthy listening experiences, even down to the b-minus aud level. We will never hear enough of that time.

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Allman Brothers

I don't know much about the 1970 stuff ...not really my thing. But I hear the Allman Brothers on there.

Did anyone read Greg Allman's book? Super entertaining. Recommended.

He didn't have many kind words for the Grateful Dead. Makes some comment about he and his brother laughing at them, thought they sucked, disgusted they were passing out crates of Gatorade spiked with acid.

Sounds like he was one of those people that "didn't get it." He says something to the effect that they were nice enough people . . . but . . .

"Mostly I ignored them."

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Adding one note: this is very cool. Love the part when Berry Oakley comes in on bass. Tearing it up!

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