Grateful Dead

November 19 - November 25, 2012

Tapers Section By David LemieuxWeek of November 19 - November 25, 2012

Welcome back. Like last week, this week we have a double dose of 1979, plus some 1989 Grateful Dead here at the Tapers' Section.

First up is the end of the show from 11/29/79 in Cleveland, where we have Black Peter>Around and Around>Good Lovin'; US Blues. It was quite common in 1979 to come out of Space with the Jerry ballad, a bit of a change from the usual rocker coming out of space.

Next up is the pre-Drums sequence from 12/7/79 in Indianapolis, where we have China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider, Eyes Of The World, Lost Sailor>Saint Of Circumstance. This is a bit of a unique sequence in that Eyes follows China>Rider, which is usually followed by a Bobby tune.

Next up is the first part of the second set from 12/10/89 at the LA Forum, featuring Jack Straw>China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider, Man Smart (Woman Smarter). We hope you don't mind two China>Riders this week.

Be sure to stop by next week for more tunes form deep within the vault.

David Lemieux


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stevepremo's picture
Joined: Sep 5 2007
This week?

Where are this week's selections?

Joined: Oct 1 2007
What should > mean?

This issue comes up now and again. I agree it is often used in a misleading or uninformative way. It should, I think, indicate a musical linkage between songs. This does not require 30 seconds, 30 mins or any particular length, but it does require more than completing one song, and quickly beginning another. Consider, are we really interested in those progressions in a set where they do not pause for Jerry to smoke a fag? No, we are interested in when the Dead musically merge songs together. Sometime there is a grey area, particularly if the transition involves no created melodic material, but is based on a rapid transition due to the matching tempos, rhythms and key signatures of the tunes. But in any case, simply a very short pause, no grounds for using the > for me!

Anna rRxia's picture
Joined: Dec 25 2009
Jack Straw ( NOT >) China Cat

Interesting subject among tapers -- what is a "jam into"? I guess it matters what what period you started going to shows in and what period(s) you like to listen to. To me, this passage does not qualify as a "jam into". It sounds ike a prearranged set list. A real "jam in to" has at least 30 seconds of transition. Some tapers put the arrow in if there is less than a three second interval between songs. I think this really defeats the purposes of the arrow.

Joined: Jan 13 2010
GD79 = awesomeness

Give 12/3/79 a listen. WOW!

Joined: Jan 13 2010
I never heard a China>Rider I didn't like.

It's always hot.

slo lettuce's picture
Joined: Jul 20 2012
on this day of thanks...........

one of the many things i have a memory of being thankful for, is being able to - with a liitle help from my friends - eventually find my vehicular vehicle in the parking lot after the concert (always a feeling of profound relief). wandering around and around.... :)))))))))

have a grateful and thankful day, everyone..........

* this '89 selection proves that i need to listen to more late '80's concerts....... really enjoyed it......... thanks

Joined: Oct 1 2007
for the record...

A quick selection of '79 shows I was at that I thought rocked it!

1/10, 1/12. 1/20, 2/3, 5/7. 5/9, 5/13, 9/1, 9/2, 10/27. 10/28, 11/5, 11/9, 12/1

Joined: Oct 1 2007
I love it!

As always! : ) My point was not that this era has no good shows (as I said) but that I for one do not think this weeks selections represent high-points of this period of the Dead. Others may disagree, of course. I did see over 100 shows in the post Keith era, so I am hardly someone who ignored this period, and I enjoyed a great many of them. But to say that this period had its lapses and a kind of decline in day to day quality is also, dare I say it, to agree with our learned friend Blair Jackson. Given all this, I for one find it difficult to "hear" how someone can think these tracks are "as good as it gets" from the over 2000 shows that we have documentary evidence of. But I guess, as always, it is ok here to wax poetic about what you like, but somehow wrong to do the opposite. Perhaps we should rename the "Comments" section the "Fawning Thanks for Whatever" section. For many posters here I am tempted to say, in response "Don't worry, I get it, if a recording of the Dead eating lunch were posted you would love it." Happy Thanksgivings to all, listen to whatever Dead turns your crank!

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Joined: Jun 9 2007
Jack Straw>China>Rider!!

So awesome you posted this!

Next week, you'll have to offer the contrast with the first half of set 2 of 12/30/89 to the end of drums. The next Jack Straw->China Cat->Rider. Monumental in its power. What it lacks in Bruce Hornsby, it makes up for with Airto Moriera!! The Dead jamming like they were Phish on that one, haha. Within the context of the unique characteristics of the Grateful Dead, of course.

Joined: Jun 13 2007

Listening for a few before
getting some rest.

Watched Bobby and Gang on TRI,
it was awesome. The whole show
was exactly what I needed.

I doubted I could ever like the internet
this much...
well I love it.

Here's to hoping
there might be a fix for the music part of it.
TRI seems to have become a perfect
part of the net.

My home was decorated in a new joy.

Feeling lucky


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