Grateful Dead

September 24 - September 30, 2007

Tapers Section By David Lemieux

This is another busy week in the Grateful Dead’s performing history, with music spanning another relatively short span, but containing some exceptional jams.

From the second Waterbury, CT show, on 9/24/72, we have the heart of the second set, which features Dark Star>China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider. Unfortunately, the Rider gets chopped at the very end due to a cut in the master reel. But fortunately, the Dark Star contains just about everything you want from a 1972 Dark Star: introspection, deep space, melodic turns and chaos.

Four years later, on their second big tour after the hiatus, in September-October, 1976, we have a great second set sequence from 9/24/76 at William and Mary College, featuring Drums>Slipknot!>Franklin’s Tower>The Music Never Stopped>Stella Blue>Around and Around, U.S. Blues. There’s a tape reel cut in Stella Blue, but to balance that flaw out is this absolutely incredible double speed Slipknot! that leaves the listener breathless.

In 1981, the band did a short three night tour before embarking on the fall tour of Europe. We have a little taste of each of these three American shows, with a couple of tracks from the first show on 9/25/81 at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, PA: from the first set, a rocking Passenger, and the second set opening combination of Might As Well>Samson and Delilah. From the next night, on 9/26/81, at The Aud in Buffalo (or, more properly, the Buffalo Memorial Auditorium, if you’re not into the whole brevity thing), we are pleased to play the post-Drums sequence of Jam>Not Fade Away>Morning Dew>Playing In The Band>One More Saturday Night. And finally, from the third show on the mini-tour, on 9/27/81 at the Capital Center in Landover, MD, we have the show opening trio of Jack Straw, Alabama Getaway>Promised Land.

That’s about it for this week, but check back next week when we’ll venture into October with more great music. Feel free to write with questions, comments or requests. Your input is always appreciated.

David Lemieux
vault [at] dead.net

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sound quality...

better ask David L., who is reachable at vault (at) dead.net. I just dunno.

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marye, not mayre

sorry for the misspelling. btw, is 'passenger' supposed to sound as bad as it does to these ears? not the performance, just the quality of the recording.

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no no, scuba

we love this stuff! I think it's actually going to be a fairly popular discussion, so thanks, whether you feel the need to post there or not.

Meanwhile, yeah, discussing the music is good. Talk on!

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Don't create a topic on my account..

Marye,
No new topic needed. I'm not much of a poster and would hate to see this split made the official one on this site. Anyone who ignores post Jerry is missing good stuff.

I used to just come here to listen to music and read the posts. David used to respond to my emails.

I guess my point was that we stopped talking about the music and that is kinda sad.

Have a great weekend, (Jorma playing in Phoenix at a little blues bar on Sunday.)

"There are 2 kinds of people in the world. Those whose lives have a soundtrack and those lives do not. I have always found that interesting people come supplied with music."

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No mention of post Grateful Dead projects?

There are topics in this forum on all the members and there has been discussion in those areas. Bob has a web site with much discussion; too huge for me to get a grip on so I don't check in very much. Mickey and Phil also have Web sites.

enjoying the ride - very sorry you have missed out on all the great music of the past 12 years. It may not be the Grateful Dead, but it as close as we can get.

And IMHO - Ratdog, Phil and Friends, the Dead, the Other Ones have all been tighter than most of the post Brent stuff of the Grateful Dead and much of the 80's. Jerry had health problems and was an addict and the band was not inspired at times and not happy at times. Most of these post -Jerry bands have more joy in their spirit than the last days of the Dead.
I love Jerry and the sound of his guitar and songs but you can not fly high when you are bogged down by narcotics and just feeling sick and dying.

With all this said, there was nothing like a Grateful Dead concert; even though the post Jerry shows are lots of fun and smooth sailing, it isn't the same MAGIC and excitement as the Grateful Dead when they were on.

The audience for me have also been more pleasant at the post Grateful Dead shows than in the later years. They are there because they love the music, not to make a scene.

Let the discussion begin.
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Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman-Song of Myself

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as requested...

here's that post-Jerry Dead topic. Post on!

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interesting point, scubabrew

I see no reason why we shouldn't have a topic on the subject, and I'll go post one and report back.

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Scubabrew ...

interesting point. i don't know if there is a forum for post-Jerry dead, but, speaking strictly for myself, it isn't the Grateful Dead without jerry. know what i mean? however, perhaps suggesting a new forum topic to mayre or izzie is in order, unless that already exists.

if you are speaking about why the post-jerry music isn't a part of the taper's section, it probably all has to do with licensing issues. and, actually, it might be kind of cool to include that music here. honestly, i haven't heard the "dead" nor "the other ones" because i was ambivalent about hearing the music without jerry's voice or guitar. a little exposure could ease my fears.

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Another County heard from.....

I've been reading posts with flagging interest over the last bunch of weeks. At times i get encouraged when I see us talking about the music again. As the more active posters here seem to have far more knowledge then I, perhaps you could offer an opinion.

I started going to shows in 1973 and saw my last Jerry show at the last Mardi Gras show in Oakland. I have continued to go to "The Other Ones" and "The Dead". Why does the post Jerry music not even warrent a mention with this group of people? If you have seen them, you know that on any given night they beat any other live band on the road.

Being at a good live show beats a great tape any day. I still smile and dance when I go to shows and look forward to new tour announcements.

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And Mark Twain

aka Samuel Clemens has a boatload of great quotes, eh Oroboros? Was looking at a site with hundreds of citations from him and was IN AWE of his wit with words. Will have to look for a new one, am getting bored of this one now.
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Samuel Clemens

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