Grateful Dead

September 3 - September 9, 2007

Tapers Section By David Lemieux

We have a tremendous variety of music for you this week, spanning almost 20 years of the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and we hope you’ll find this week’s journey as enjoyable as we did while preparing it for you.

As we mentioned last week, we have a bit more music from the Family Dog in San Francisco, specifically the encore from 9/6/69, a nice Pigpen-led Midnight Hour, with plenty of good jamming in the background.

Our next chronological stop on this week’s trip is 9/9/72 at the Palladium in Hollywood (venue of the performance of one of the best-ever versions of Hard To Handle, in 1971). From this show in 1972, we have the second set jam of He’s Gone>Truckin’>The Other One, which features a reel flip that is just a fact of life in these 7” reel-to-reel tapes, which run at 7.5 ips, meaning the tape is changed every 47 or so minutes. It’s always fortunate when the cuts are located in acceptable places, like this, rather than the brutal cuts that often destroy the listening experience. This one really isn’t too bad.

At this point we jump forward a year to 9/7/73 at Nassau Coliseum, with a song that mightn’t be what people think of first when they think of 1973: Looks Like Rain. This is a really great rendition, and just sounds so darn good, we thought you’d enjoy it. And, for a dose of quintessential 1973 music, we have the first set closing song from the same show: Playing In The Band. I really can’t get enough of these 1973 Playing In The Bands, and this one certainly doesn’t disappoint.

Going forward to 1985, to 9/3/85 in Kansas City, we have the pre-Drums sequence featuring That’s It For The Other One>Eyes of the World>I Don’t Need Love. The “Cryptical” part of the sequence in 1985 never quite matched the energy or perfection of the 1969 versions, but the “Other One” portion of the song is very good, as is the Eyes and the rare Don’t Need Love. This is drawn from the Beta PCM digital masters.

Lastly this week, we have a couple of songs from London on 4/7/72, specifically Pigpen’s Chinatown Shuffle and a powerhouse Me and My Uncle.

As sometimes happens, we have no idea what we’ll have for you next week, but looking at what we have to select from, it’s bound be to be a nice selection of some excellent music. Let us know what you think by writing with questions, comments, suggestions or requests.

David Lemieux
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Joined: Jun 4 2007
RHINOgate... I am not going to Stage 5

The stages are:

1. Denial : The initial stage: "It can't be happening."
2. Anger : "Why ME? It's not fair?!" (either referring to God, oneself, or anybody perceived, rightly or wrongly, as "responsible")
3. Bargaining : "Just let me live to see my son graduate."
4. Depression : "I'm so sad, why bother with anything?"
5. Acceptance : "It's going to be OK."

Joined: Aug 20 2007
further explanation

My comment contained two parts; do not overlook the second point - audacity.

I used to be able to get regular samples of Dead jewels here at, but they want to take this away. Fair enough, but don't expect me to visit here any more.

Especially now that Sirius is broadcasting these same nuggets. All that is needed is a patch cord running from my receiver to my PC and audacity running to capture, record and convert the music to an mp3 file. Not quite as elegant as a straight mp3 download, but has decided after 18 months (or there about) to stop providing this.

They state that downloading was never intended. Sorry to say but they must be incredibly naive to create a section, label it "Tapers Section", stuff it full of mp3's and not expect people to download them. Who the hell are they trying to con? Nobody is that stupid.

Now back to my point. I could care less if Rhino & Sirius have a deal. Of course they have a deal. And I have no problem recording these broadcasts and playing them in my car, at work, when I travel or listening to them on my mp3 player. My ultimate point is that I won't be coming back to this location for new music clips - hell they don't want me too anyway. So goodbye & good ridden. We part on amicable terms.

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tj crowley

if we focus on waht we don't have...we can't enjoy what we do have...go back and listen to those gig's that we were allowed(?) to download...

Joined: Jun 7 2007
nasty and mean

Can't we just appreciate what we still have. Stop the nasty ass comments and whining. Does it make it better? It is what it is here. Be here now or leave. It's such an easy choice.

Joined: Jun 7 2007
Tapers section 09/03-09/09

David L.,
I love this Playin. Thank you for getting that to us. I'm a 73' gal at heart and you're right, the Playins' from 73' are some of the very best.

Joined: Jun 10 2007
whining for fun

hey first i believe people are allowed their opinion. this episode goes back to live archive. does anybody realize that most of us are truely appreciative of the efforts of dave gans and dave L. we are just having fun and whining for the heck of it. most are over the angry faze. so dont take our whining serious because we know nothing is gonna change back to the glory days. so enjoy the whining and go on with our lives. whining is a good pressure reliever. whine,whine,whine,etc.

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Joined: Jun 5 2007
One Last Point

Please don't take my comments as some form of attack. Both Davids have always answered my emails about questions about vault recordings. But as I listen to the 11/2/79 show which David G just introduced on Sirius, I am struck by the lyrics "it's an obsession but it's pleasing." In that spirit, don't play the community that has bought every single piece of released music by the band for saps.

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Joined: Jun 5 2007
To David(s) Gans and Lemieux

You should know better than anyone that Deadheads don't like dishonesty and condescension. When a deal was struck with Sirius, the community would have understood if it was clear that the content we were all getting for free would now be on Channel 32. But unless David L was legally forced to do so, it is BEYOND INSULTING to issue a statement about it coming to the attention of the GD that people were downloading mp3s. And as for your comment about "8 GB isn't enough," that's pretty rough for a guy whose entire career, journalistic and musical, has been based on being a band confidant. The reason people responded so favorably to David L and this section was the lack of trust after the debacle. We felt like finally "one of us" was sharing the true gems as Dick tried to. One thing people don't like is being treated like fools. Throughout this episode, that is what what has happened. We have all enjoyed your books, PITB and Conversations and are extremely grateful for the GD Hour, especially when it was playing sbds that would not have otherwise been heard. But to act like people weren't taping those back then is as foolish as not expecting people to download mp3s. We all know digital content is a slippery subject, and the the organization, especially Bobby, is having trouble figuring out how to proceed. But let's not treat the very fanbase that has kept this all going as whiners or selfish complainers.

Joined: Jul 7 2007
tapers section

it sure is nice to start my saturday, on my bday month with a bouncy eyes from the heartland. the real pity is all you folks complaining. you get what you give complainers.

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Joined: Jun 13 2007
the point

David Gans,

My point was in response to the person before me who said


Hello Channel 32 & audacity!

It was fun while it lasted but filters and blocks only push people away. Later Rhino.."

I was attempting to put some humor into what I saw expressed in this earlier post as a simple black and white view of Rhino. I was pointing out the complexity and interconnections of the world. I was not making a judgment call towards either Rhino or Sirius or you or David Lemieux. I think you both do great work.

By the way, I was just reading “The Grateful Dead and Philosophy" and in the second essay "Community at the Edge of Chaos" there were two quotes from you that struck me in regards to the exaggerated response that has occurred at this site.

1. "there was "very little unanimity on any subject in the band, the organization, or the Deadhead community"".
2. "Community is not about agreement, it's about acceptance and diversity".

Good reminders at this time. Peace.

Do I contradict myself?
Very well then I contradict myself,
(I am large, I contain multitudes.)
Walt Whitman-Song of Myself


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