September 3 - September 9, 2007
We have a tremendous variety of music for you this week, spanning almost 20 years of the Grateful Dead’s recorded history, and we hope you’ll find this week’s journey as enjoyable as we did while preparing it for you.
As we mentioned last week, we have a bit more music from the Family Dog in San Francisco, specifically the encore from 9/6/69, a nice Pigpen-led Midnight Hour, with plenty of good jamming in the background.
Our next chronological stop on this week’s trip is 9/9/72 at the Palladium in Hollywood (venue of the performance of one of the best-ever versions of Hard To Handle, in 1971). From this show in 1972, we have the second set jam of He’s Gone>Truckin’>The Other One, which features a reel flip that is just a fact of life in these 7” reel-to-reel tapes, which run at 7.5 ips, meaning the tape is changed every 47 or so minutes. It’s always fortunate when the cuts are located in acceptable places, like this, rather than the brutal cuts that often destroy the listening experience. This one really isn’t too bad.
At this point we jump forward a year to 9/7/73 at Nassau Coliseum, with a song that mightn’t be what people think of first when they think of 1973: Looks Like Rain. This is a really great rendition, and just sounds so darn good, we thought you’d enjoy it. And, for a dose of quintessential 1973 music, we have the first set closing song from the same show: Playing In The Band. I really can’t get enough of these 1973 Playing In The Bands, and this one certainly doesn’t disappoint.
Going forward to 1985, to 9/3/85 in Kansas City, we have the pre-Drums sequence featuring That’s It For The Other One>Eyes of the World>I Don’t Need Love. The “Cryptical” part of the sequence in 1985 never quite matched the energy or perfection of the 1969 versions, but the “Other One” portion of the song is very good, as is the Eyes and the rare Don’t Need Love. This is drawn from the Beta PCM digital masters.
Lastly this week, we have a couple of songs from London on 4/7/72, specifically Pigpen’s Chinatown Shuffle and a powerhouse Me and My Uncle.
As sometimes happens, we have no idea what we’ll have for you next week, but looking at what we have to select from, it’s bound be to be a nice selection of some excellent music. Let us know what you think by writing with questions, comments, suggestions or requests.
David Lemieux
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David L
Don't bitch at David, he's just doing his job. If you're gonna bitch, bitch at Rhino, I'm sure it's their call, not David's.
The root of the problem
I've been thinking . . .
Why did Rhino acquire everything in the first place? I've been looking for old news articles on this, but maybe someone can enlighten me.
Should I assume that that the original GDP with the Dicks Picks and download series was /unprofitable/? If that was truly the case, then there are two possibilities: Either GDP was inefficiently managed, and could have continued to sell the same obscure concerts with only a minor restructuring...or, it could even be that selling obscure concerts to a small number of diehard fans can never be profitable. : (
I dearly hope it's the former. If it's the latter . . . well, then the fans might need to take things into their own hands if they want the Deadhead spirit to continue.
Sirius
Thanks for this week's great releases David. It's a shame fewer people can access it all now that the format has changed, but I know you're trying to bring out new music. I bet you have a list of stuff you want to release. I'm just hoping Rhino isn't dictating to you what it wants to sell - God help us if you lose control over what comes out of the vault.
Does anyone know if the new Sirius radio thing will be available in Australia? I'm guessing no. I could read the pages and pages of fine print but I have other things I'd rather do.
I really don't get the point of any Dead product (e.g. unreleased shows) being sold anywhere other than on dead.net. Surely it makes sense for the official website to sell new shows?
I think they may have missed the boat as far as streaming radio goes anyway. Dead Heads would rather the shows were sold as downloads so they can actually listen to them when they feel like (as music should always be), make audio CDs out of them or put them on mp3 players. What good is a streaming audio show, probably unmastered, that plays at 4 o'clock in the morning local time (for me in Australia that is)?
It just seems like they've gone to easy option - get someone else to play the shows - which will backfire on them and us in the end since only relatively few of us get to hear it, meaning they'll make less money from it, so are discouraged from releasing more shows.
We've already showed that we want downloads if Rhino only wants to sell downloads instead of actual CDs. Jeffrey Norman and David L were doing a great job at putting out different releases from different periods. I think Rhino doesn't understand that if they release a desirable release, Dead Heads will all buy it. Of course we aren't going to go through the back catalogue - most of us have what we want out of it. Rhino has to release NEW things (i.e. not repackaged Vault releases with bonus material that was on previous releases).
As many have pointed out, the longer it takes, the less interested Dead Heads will be. There's always somewhere else to get the music - that's the legacy of this band, so Rhino has to be aware of that, rather than treat the vault like any other band's.
new forum topics...
are out there for both streams that don't work and the Starbucks release, which does happen to have a disc of all live material. (even for those of us in tiny studio apartments and driving beat to shit pick up trucks....)
Greatest > Sugaree 4/7/72 from last week
Thanks again David for these great nuggets from 4/7/72 - But last week's combination of Greatest Story > Sugaree only streams Greatest Story. I'll take what I can get, but it would sure be appreciated if Sugaree could be reposted, corrected...anything. Thanks again !!
The sense of entitlement in this group is crazy
Why? Why does anyone have to explain anything to any of you? Well, I've loved the band for years, well I buy a lot of recordings, well because it's what I feel is the right thing to do, well they took the recordings away from archive,... Get over all of it and get over yourselves. Guess what, it's there music, they can do whatever they want. Period. Instead of being thankful that there are resources like this to hear tasty gems, all you want to do is complain because it's not the way you want it to be. Welcome to this little thing called life, it's not fair all of the time.
What makes this worse, is you can still listen to all of these great songs, but once again, if it's not the exact way you want it, well then I'll just complain and resort to name calling. Of course we have to hear, this would not make Jerry happy. Well, how do you know, did you personally know him? Oh, wait you've read a few quotes from him that gave you a keen insight into his mind, so you know exactly what he would think. And of course, I have to read well Jerry said when we're done with it, it's theirs. Yeah he said that back in the early 70's, and I'm sure with the keen insight everyone has into Jerry's mind, they know exactly what he meant and that he never changed his mind.
Back to the point that it's still available, how hard is it to click on the song link, pick whether you want to use quicktime or windows media and listen to it? What's worse than that, is the I don't have time to listen to this streaming. Well, if it's important enough to you than you can make time, if not I guess you'll just have to move on.
We still have to listen to multiple complaints about Archive.org going away. Listen, there are tons of sources to get copies of pretty much any Dead show that was taped. Not just audience copies, but great soundboard copies. In fact there are several sites that actually have projects where they make every show taped for a particular year available. The best part, it's all free, yes that's right, free. This is all at your fingertips, all it takes is for you to quit being so lazy, take a few minutes and go find it, it's out there. Not to mention that there are 60+ offically released live recordings. But wait, I want the Winterland '73 boxset, not 12/31/76 (which is a great release by the way). Once again, if you really want the 11/73 Winterland run, go find it. I've got all three shows, excellent soundboards, just takes a few minutes to go find the resources to get them. No other band or musician comes close to offering all of this music to listen to, yet look at all the complaining. It's this kind of lazy, complaining, sense of entitlement that gave the scene such a bad rap at the end.
With that said, David, thank you for all that you have done and all that you are doing. I am looking forward to your futrue selections for this feature and the future releases you guys are working on.
Last Weeks Explanation
I thought Davids message last week told us all we need to know for right now! I feel we should just wait and see what happens!! Is there another band out there that allow's as much access to their music as this one! I was dissapointed w/ the removal of the mp3's but i am willing to wait to see how this all plays out and give the GOGD the benefit of the doubt. As far as people having problems with the streaming aspect of it if you don't have a high speed internet connection then you will have trouble. But the music is there if you want it!!
Rogue
Built for Cash
There are times when you offend me and I do the same to you...if we can't or won't forget it, i guess we could be through.
tapers
weren't we alowed to tape in the tapers section?
Can't stop us
Nothing will keep deadheads from trading Dead shows, whether by bittirrent, downloads or snailmail; legally or not, Rhino can't stop us. They can, however, keep us from buying official releases and keep us from repecting the rules of trading officially released material. Respect is a two way street and you need our money more than we need another compilation release.