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Here and there in the forums people are expressing their enthusiasm for particular candidates in the upcoming U.S. elections, while others are saying Enough Already, We Don't Want To Hear About It.

So, this is the right place to discuss your favorites (or non-favorites) and other matters relevant to the campaign. If you're not into it, skip this topic!

And as for all you non-U.S. residents, if you want a similar topic for what's going on in your part of the world, speak up and I'll start it. Thanks!

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Racism

With all do respect Hal, I believe that Blacks are far more racist than Whites. We as a people are doing everything to make there life easier, and we don't ask for anything but respect in return. I am a bit old school in my beliefs, but as far as being an AMERICAN, I believe we need to start treating each other as equals. Giving to the poor, I belive just enables them to be poorer. Earn your living , it actually feels pretty good! Just my humble opinion.

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The Obama win in the caucus

I probably lean more towards Edwards than Obama, however this is such a giant signal that an African American can win in a state that is overwhelmingly white. It makes me proud to be from Iowa (as well as several other Midwest states).

There is a change in our country folks, I breathe a sigh of relief, I know there is still racism but it is not to the extent of our parent’s world.

In the area I live now (the Inland Northwest) we actually had a Nazi compound in our midst in North Idaho and it is now gone and the leader is dead and these folks have scattered. I am so glad this is gone; it was such a bad reflection on our area.

Though the world will never be just exactly perfect at least we are a bit closer to Martin Luther King's "I Have A Dream"

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake

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Don't buy the hype

While Ron Paul seems appealing from a Constitutionalist point of view, that is the end of his appeal to me. He is completely against government and wants to disband the government as we know it. Believe it or not, our government does play a very necessary role in our society. Our government has been demonized by conservatives and this has lead to the privatization of too many services including our military.

The infrastructure that our parents and grandparents built is crumbling beneath us. The fact of the matter is, the demands on our infrastructure has more than doubled with our boom in population. Rather than cutting programs which strenghten us, we should be looking at programs resembling "The New Deal" rather than privatizing these services. Also, services such as police and fire protection should be available to all citizens regardless of one's income.

Peace

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there's a real good article on him

in the current issue of Reason mag (the Libertarian magazine, which one of my pals buys us all subscriptions to and lately I've actually been reading). If it runs true to form it'll be online in about a month.

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Hmmm..

I've been checking out Ron Paul...trying to find out more about him and what he is all about!

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personally...

being a registered Democrat and all, I hope for an Obama-Edwards ticket. Obama's got the charisma, Edwards has the track record of working for real people, and if he got rich doing it, so what? I don't like Hillary at all because I think she's pretty much got the same ethics as her husband, which is to say none at all, however much the Clinton administration looks like a golden age in comparison with the present. Has nothing to do with her being female, has to do with not being able to trust a word she says. In my opinion of course.

Now if Ron Paul's on the ballot I'm going to have a crisis, because while we certainly disagree on some matters (immigration being at the top of the list), he's probably the closest to what I'd like to see: no arrogant attempts to run the world, no arrogant attempts to run people's lives, ending the War on Some Drugs, etc.

I think all three of these dudes are decent, ethical and smart, and wish them well.

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BTW

It was only one WORD.

"If the forms of this world die, which is more real, the me that dies or the me that's infinite? Can I trust my habitual mind, or do I need to learn to look beneath those things?"

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Touche

Now that's what I'm talking about! Keep that attitude up and we can have a dialogue, about music anyway.

"If the forms of this world die, which is more real, the me that dies or the me that's infinite? Can I trust my habitual mind, or do I need to learn to look beneath those things?"

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P.S.

You got the words wrong for Stella Blue in the last sentence of your rant.

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Tizzy?

What about my post indicated a tizzy? I think you're a spammer for a politican, plain and simple. The idea of you being a fan of the Grateful Dead is what I'd try to prove, it I were you. This isn't a political web site. Why am I wrong?

"If the forms of this world die, which is more real, the me that dies or the me that's infinite? Can I trust my habitual mind, or do I need to learn to look beneath those things?"

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