Grateful Dead

Dangers, Toils and Snares...

Folks, old and new, few things gladden an old mod's heart like the way you stood up for this place in past weeks.

We can pretty much count on the fact that every time there's a new release, a Dead tour or show announcement, or some Dead-related media hoopla, we're going to be swamped. Some newcomers will be long-lost Heads dying to connect. Some will be new Heads longing to connect. This, of course, is highly desirable. Welcome.

 Others, as we have seen, come mainly to vent or spew venom, and having done so usually move on. I am most gratified with the way the community members, old and new, came forth to squelch this in our most recent episode (and for those just joining us and filled with morbid curiosity, I refer you to the Dead To Tour In Spring topic around the time of the presale).

 Others, frankly, will be porn spammers, malware perpetrators, and other cancers on the Internet. We have had the occasional instance of a porn spammer getting through and posting in the forums, but the more usual scenario is simply creating a user profile full of heinous links. If you should have the misfortune to encounter such a situation, please bring it to our attention and we'll deal with it. Please ALSO recognize that, contrary to the shocked reaction the first time this happened, porn and malware are NOT among the features we're offering here and we do not hold with that stuff.

 Thanks and furthur!

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cactuswax's picture
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kudos

to Marye on the Bill & Ted reference.
Oh, and on the other stuff too; yeah yeah, hear hear

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Hey I think that there can be more than one truth, on many

issues, but for someone to continually tell me I am full of beans (or some other brown material) is treading on that personal toxicity that is not helpful.
Like Johnman said, "agree to disagree" BUT without being so disagreeable, or venomous towards the other person. It is unnecessary to participate in personal verbal attack or abuse. Dispute the facts, hooray! Express the opposite perspective, go for it! Make a case using differing information or educate me on my misinformation or grant me opportunity to hear your expertise, welcome discord, indeed!
The only way I learn is if I open my mind and shut my mouth long enough to gain what others can offer. BUT, I rarely learn from someone attempting to bludgeon me with insults or chastise me or treat me in a condesending manner.
Healthy debate and a variety of perspectives are welcome, in fact needed! (in my humble opinion). But if you truly want others to listen, if what you say is so significant/pressing/vital, then take the time, make the effort, hone the rhetoric to actually make the argument.
Not to take potshots, nor to incite, or to lower the dialogue to a mud-wreslting event.

Hey, remember Monty Python's
"Is this where I go for an argument ?"
"No, that is 2 doors down the hall!",
"No, it isn't",
"Yes, it is",
"No it isn't",
"Hey this isn't an argument, it is just contradiction!"
(pregnant pause)
"No it isn't"
"Yes it is"
"No it isn't"

My 2 cents. ;o}

The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.

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sure we are marye

we can all agree to disagree.....i think........yeah, that's right

marye's picture
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and to clarify

since the last time I said this is buried thousands of posts back in the tour topic: Dissent is fine. Criticism is fine. Abuse and personal attacks, not so much. In short, you are quite welcome to express your opinion as long as you don't attack or demonize other folks while doing so.

Just in case that wasn't clear. I doubt any two of us are in perfect agreement on anything.

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hey culliganman...

you might want to head over to the Channel 666 topic where Ticketmaster's latest misadventure is being discussed with gusto. Let's just say you're not alone.

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I'm Old time Deadhead

I'm old time deadHead, And I'm sorry but if people have a different opinion they usually get jumped on and thats to bad. I did voice a disappointment in the way the tickets were handled this time and was slammed on it. I will always follow the dead and will voice an opinion. I can do this without being vulger. I thought ticket master did a terrible job this time, sorry it was my opinion. I look forward to the show I was able to get tickets for, however could not obtain the other shows that I wanted to attend and that was the fault of how it was setup. Oh well at least i got a ticket for one show and will have to be happy for that. Like I said I'm looking forward to that show. Sorry if this offends anyone , it is not my intenetion.

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You who are on the road must have a code that you can live by

On this Golden Road it has been respect for others at this site. Thank you Mary for keeping this a positive place as well as my fellow heads pkpotter, Oroboros, Tigerlilly and many others.

This has been a safe place to hang out and if the going gets weird it seems to come back to that safe place after some strange detours.

Right On!

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
William Blake

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Hear, hear

to those who work to make this a better space. Which of course is and was the point all along!
Right?
And thanks to you all who make this your mission, here on this site and in your life 'off-site". Take care

The Truth is realized in an instant, the act is practiced step by step.

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back when we were first launching this

It was very clear going in that this was coming into being in a world where there were already dozens and dozens of online spots to talk about the Dead, including of course DNC, Ratdog.org, Phillesh.net but also lots of blogs and boards. And not just in the U.S. And they all had their own culture, even when the populations overlapped.

Hence the best metaphor I could come up with at the time was that this is sort of the crossroads where all the different communities intersect and folks with a lot of different cultural expectations hang out.

And, like I've said before, we've got folks who weren't born when Jerry passed, and we've probably got folks who were at the Acid Tests. We've got folks from a lot of different corners of the world, an incredible range of talents and experiences. It's a rich place and getting richer, I think, and long may it run.

As two wise doofuses once put it, "Be excellent to each other," and if we stick to that plan I think we'll be fine.

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Yep

The posts on Ratdog.org are usually brutal mainly towards the band and Bobby himself and it doesn't seem like it's just some jerk trying to get under people's skin, they really mean what they say. Is it frustration that Ratdog doesn't sound exactly like the Grateful Dead?? Uh yeah I thought that was kind of the point?? Experimentation, going down different musical avenues, that's what it is all about!

"Everybody's braggin' and drinking that wine, I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines. Come to daddy on an inside straight, well I've got no chance of losing this time"

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