Hey, It's me California Bob with my first post on Dead.net wondering if there are any other Deadheads in the Fraser Valley/Vancouver that are going to make the 3 shows in Chicago. I will definitely be going & would love to put together a joint venture with other interested parties. 9 days to tickets!!!
Hi fellow CanHeads,
Long time no chat. So, who's thinking of making the trip to Chicago? We definitely are, hoping for mailorder mojo so we don't have to navigate the online madness. Looking forward to seeing some of you there. Can't wait to jam! K
Hey all, heading up to Tremblant any suggestions for we're to party at night. Looks awsome but wasn't sure how the parting was in summer. Any info would be appreciated!
(noting that my personal experience is limited to Stanford), one thing that seems to be a pretty big deal in the powwow scene is No Drugs. Which would make clueless hippie wannabes on the scene even more problematic. (Never mind the fact that the powwow in question takes place in the eucalyptus groves a stone's throw from the Frost, at about the right time of year, and it does bring back the memories...)
Claiming any expertise in powwow matters is risky business for sure. My parents and grandparents always went to shows and pow wows both. But I'm adopted and never knew any of this until I searched and reunited with them. Yes. I'm a head and then found out my birthparents and grandparents were too....must be in the DNA!
I would sooooo like to hear from heads who have followed both trails as I gain some footing on walking both myself. The respectfulness is a no-brainer to me. Though, no matter how respectful, it's deeply inbedded in the powwow culture to be critical (sound familiar?) of newbs, "wannabees", white people, and "Hippies". I have been to a few, danced, and have had no issues. There is a code of etiquette for sure....just like shows. It's these similarities that would make for interesting discussion. Dancing or drumming and how it makes one feel at either place would be interesting to hear about too.
Heads digging powwows would be a pretty obvious crossover. Though, I'd like to turn it around and hear perspectives from Indians who love the Dead. But hearing from heads with extensive powwows under their belt would be cool too. Intertribals are just such a sweet time to dance and feel the drum. In fact, any discussion on this would be cool. Something I've not seen much of. Maybe this is a very small niche we're talking here, which would make it all the more intersting yet rare to get real responses.
Any Native Heads out there? Maybe I ought to risk posting on some Indian boards and some folks might come out of the "closet". In Indian culture, it seems totally uncool to be into anything remotely "hippy". Yet, hip-hop, metal, and other genre's seem to fly just fine.
I claim no expertise in this matter, but I heartily recommend the powwow scene to people who can show up and be respectful. The one at Stanford on Mother's Day weekend is pretty awesome.
I want to pose the question of whether there are any Native American/First Nations Deadheads out there?
Looking on Native American message boards like Powwows.com, there are a lot of negative comments about hippies, hippy music and culture and the Dead. Speaking as a descendant of east coast Indians (Nanticoke-Lenape from Delaware/PA/MD), I am wondering if there are any other oddball Indians out there who like the Dead and any thoughts on similarities and differences between Dead culture and Native American Culture, ie pow wow trail, dancing, sprituality.
I personally see a lot of common threads but would likely be torn to pieces for posting a comment like this on an Indian message board (ie "bunch of wannabe Indians with feathers and beads--idiots stealing our culture"). Assuming a more sympathetic audience on this forum.....Anyone out there doing both pow wow trail and dead shows? I'd love to hear your perspective.
I wasnt' sure where to post this comment but thought Canadian Deadheads since it's a North America comment....plus, I know there are a lot of First Nations people up there that might be able to answer this. I know I've seen lots of other Indians at shows, specifically up at Canandaigua (Seneca country), so I'm hoping to hear from you. And I know Jeff Pehrson in Furthur has some NDN blood. I have a feeling there is a deeper native connection to the Dead than most folks are aware of. Obviously there was Rolling Thunder's (John Pope) involvement in the early days, but he was known for his hippy connections anyway. Your thoughts?