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Garcia & Co. 1967 Interview Vine

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Jerry Garcia & Co. at 710 Ashbury in Spring 1967 (Interview)

+ Richard Starlight's Radio Effluvia

Both the interview and the filler came to me through FM radio broadcasts in the early-to mid-nineties. The audio quality reflects that, but for this project off-the-beaten path, I hope you will bear with it.

I've never seen a complete tape of this justly famous interview on any torrent site. The tape does not fit on one disc, but takes up a mere 3.5 minutes on disc two. That leaves a huge amount of space for some fascinating filler I wanted to offer to you, the avid trader, some examples of the unconventional details of our homegrown subculture.
Consider The filler the sonic equivalent of old, hand-drawn & photocopied J-cards, or much-loved, do-it-yourself concert tie-dyes.


The Taper's Compendium Vol. 1 lists this interview as 80 min. This copy is just over 83 minutes (or somewhere in there~~perhaps the author of that piece was estimating, too).
For this tape db.etree lists only the what's available on the Acid Test Compliation set. That source is either different from this one or has been cleaned up considerably. It is woefully incomplete, however. Here is the complete interview for cleaning up.

Lance Neal broadcast this source in the mid-ninties on the WBAI program "Morning Dew," and I taped it to cassette. Happily, the ATC soure patches tape flips from both Lance's source and my cassette made during the broadcast. Lance's source even sounds like a compliation to me. The quality is markedly different between noisy beginning and cleaner end. I dropped in many track breaks as I was transferring both sources to disc. This gives a chance to locate specific quotes or topics that may interest the researcher. I hope the abundance of them does not put anyone off too badly.

This is a highly-entertaining historical document of life at 710. Pigpen, Mountain Girl, Weir (speaking, playing acoustic), and a child named Jason all appear at some point. Weir and someone who sounds like it might be Jon McIntire tell of the exploits of Bear and Laird Grant out on the streets in the Haight. (I thought I also heard Reddy Kilowatt asking a brief sarcastic question in passing early on.)

Most entries on this interview are reluctant to date any more specifically than its year (1967), though internal markers set it in the spring. The February Newsweek article referenced in the conversation ("Drop-Outs with a Mission") was recent, the Dead were vaguely planning their June trip to NYC, and interviews were underway on the Look Magazine article featuring the Airplane at the end of May (though for some reason, lists this as appearing in March.) The film Blowup, released late in 1966, was apparently also still in the theaters.

No one knows the identity of the interviewer, though on the tape he refers to his friend operating the tape recorder by name ("Kramer"). He also indicates that he himself was Garcia's former banjo student, is acquainted with the local bluegrass scene, and was in a band with Bay area guitarist and mandolinist Bert Johnson. He knows the ins and outs of the changes in personnel of Rick Shubb's band (before the Shubb capo days). Apparently this interviewer had also seen The Warlocks play at Magoo's Pizza Parlor in 1965! Perhaps his identity can still be discovered.

Let the sound quality issues of this post serve as a call to locate the better master!
(See Disc Two info below for a run-down of the special filler rounding out the disc.)

FM Radio broadcast > cassette > CD with SHN to CD patches > EAC > FLAC

JG@710 disc One (Interview)

d1t01 - I Never Thought Garcia Would Go Electric!
d1t02 - The Whereabouts of Bill Keith, Dave Grisman, Shubb's Band
d1t03 - Garcia's Guitar Gear
d1t04 - Hey, Pig
d1t05 - Our Music
d1t06 - Some Rock'n'Roll
d1t07 - Surrealistic Pillow Sessions
d1t08 - 'Someone to Love'
d1t09 - Here's Your Pistol
d1t10 - SF Sound
d1t11 - v. English Groups
d1t12 - SF Scene
d1t13 - Forward Motion
d1t14 - The Term 'Psychedelic'
d1t15 - Control Over Your Product
d1t16 - Artistic Pride
d1t17 - Commercial Sound
d1t18 - The Airplane and Great Ideas
d1t19 - Would You Answer That Phone?
d1t20 - Phonies at the Fillmore?
d1t21 - 'Really People'
d1t22 - Obvious Music & Reciprocal Excitement
d1t23 - NYC Soon
d1t24 - SF - Good Place to Live
d1t25 - 'Drop-Outs with a Mission'
d1t26 - Social Drop-Out
d1t27 - Play, Not Teach
d1t28 - Hold-Outs
d1t29 - Gradual Changeover
d1t30 - At Magoo's
d1t31 - English Groups
d1t32 - Long Hair
d1t33 - Success
d1t34 - Viet Nam and Anti-Life
d1t35 - The Stupidity of Killing
d1t36 - Illusory Power
d1t37 - Get Along
d1t38 - An Act of Love, An Act of Joy
d1t39 - NY
d1t40 - 'In' Things
d1t41 - Buffalo Springfield, Moby Grape, Jefferson Airplane
d1t42 - Jorma
d1t43 - Matt Cates
d1t44 - The Radio Stations Are Our Friends
d1t45 - Program Directors and Monkees
d1t46 - Top 10 Singles
d1t47 - Our Album
d1t48 - Future of SF Sound
d1t49 - Stolen Gear - Spiritual Dues
d1t50 - SF v. GV
d1t51 - Do It Ourselves
d1t53 - Light Shows
d1t54 - Surviving
d1t55 - Hell's Angels
d1t56 - Pounded into the Ground
d1t57 - They Found It!
d1t58 - Do You Want Some Dope?
d1t59 - Left Alone
d1t60 - Danger
d1t61 - What Are You Rejecting?
d1t62 - Crunchy-Style Epiphone
d1t63 - You Win the Oreo!
d1t64 - Here Today, Gone Tomorrow
d1t65 - Only Certain Ideas
d1t66 - Cops = OK
d1t67 - Do You Play Better on Dope?
d1t68 - Legalize It
d1t69 - Cigarette
d1t70 - Sped-Up Rolls - Tell Her Jerry Sent You
d1t71 - Bluegrass, Rock
d1t72 - No Dime, No Nickel
d1t73 - CaYooo, CaYoooo!
d1t74 - Existentialism
d1t75 - Flicks - Blowup - Coburn Offer
d1t76 - Look Magazine
d1t77 - Grace, the Airiplane, and Jazz

JG@710 disc Two (Conclusion of Interview, first three tracks only)

d2t01 - We Got Everything Back!
d2t02 - Owsley's Rap, Big Medicine
d2t03 - That's Your Gun


* * * Richard Starlight's Radio Effluvia

"Radio Effluvia" is a lo-fi labor of love, a tribute to the days when for me tapes were a bit harder to come by, and local GD radio Shows were my main source. Here are some of the finest moments of several of those listener- sponsored broadcasts, mixed in with some homegrown treasures found as anonymous filler on the ends of tapes I copied from who knows who at some point who knows when. Here's to those Great Days when all this was still new and one still had to find a way in!

FM broadcasts > cassettes > CD > EAC > FLAC

d2t04 - Charles Atlas
d2t05 - Thursday Lunch
d2t06 - New Year's Lunch
d2t07 - Jerry on TBWWP
d2t08 - The Barbed-Wire Whipping Party
d2t09 - Hello, There!
d2t10 - Acid Test Overture
d2t11 - Here Comes Healy
d2t12 - Jerry Station IDs
d2t13 - Phil for Morning Dew
d2t14 - Tax-
d2t15 - Deductible
d2t16 - Charity
d2t17 - Organizations
d2t18 - LSD Window Pane
d2t19 - %Music Is Love%%
d2t20 - %Sunshine Daydrream%%
d2t21 - %Dark Star%%
d2t22 - Psychedelic Coke
d2t23 - Michael from Mountains
d2t24 - Sally Go Round Roses
d2t25 - Chud
d2t26 - Wake Up!
d2t27 - Morning Dew Special
d2t28 - GD Hour Titles
d2t29 - Aoxo Ad (Dupree's)
d2t30 - Ancient Past
d2t31 - Lance for RAN
d2t32 - Jerry Tribute Announcement
d2t33 - Star Spangled Banger, Closing Remarks


t04) Bill Graham intro

t05) Bob Young's "Thursday Lunch" program announcement from 1990 or 1991 on KPFK, 90.7 FM in Los Angeles

t06) Bob Young announces "New Year's Lunch" on KPFK

t07) Taped form "Thursday LUnch," with program's theme cart playing behind Source tape has Jerry being interviewed by another DJ at an unknown earlier time

t08) TBWWP comes up as "Thursday Lunch" theme cart fades down

t09) From Lance Neal's "Morning Dew" program on WBAI, 99.5 FM in New York City taped some time between 1993 and 1996

t10) I think that what I am here calling "Acid Test Overture" was originally broadcast by David Gans on "Dead to the WOrld" or the "Grateful Dead Hour." I taped it in the early- to mid-nineties on Lance Neal's "Morning Dew" program. Ken Kesey, Weir, Pig and the "More Power" rap from the Fillmore Acid Test, 01.08.66. Timothy Leary montage, including excerpts of Allen Ginsberg reading "Howl." Much else. Terrence McKenna excerpt. "I Did All My Acid. . ." : artist unknown.

t11) WBAI program announcement, early- to mid-nineties

t13) See note to track 11

t18) The story behind what I call "LSD Window Pane" is similar to track 10.

t19) Excerpt: "Music Is Love" on David Crosby's If I Could Only Rember My Name

t20) Tracks 19 & 20 sequenced like this on a tape I once copied from someone

t21) Gorgeous Dark Star filler from who knows where on some tape I once had

t22) Joni Mitchell from 1968 (perhaps) in Philadelphia (for sure) taped from Bob Young's show in LA during the wee hours of New Year's Day, 1991, which was the evening of a blue moon.

t23) See note for track 22

t24) The Great Society (featuring Grace Slick), recorded at the Matrix in San Fransisco, 09-xx-1966. Same broadcast information as tracks 22 & 23. Fades up at the tail end of a Firesign Theater track from the Dear Friends album.

t25) Home grown

t26) Same broadcast information as track 11

t27) "Morning Dew" special produced by Randy Jackson and Lance Neal for WBAI, 99.5 FM NYC. Broadcast in the early- to mid-nineties. Includes interviews with Bonnie Dobson and the dubious Fred Rose.

t28) Grateful Dead Hour intro from not to long ago

t29) Better quality copy now available on Aoxomoxoa remaster (Golden Road box), along with other ads like this one

t30, 31, 32) Same broadcast information as track 11

t33) From disc one of the Acid Test set from LAMA. Fillmore Acid Test.

"Good Night. We've Enjoyed Having You Here."

e pluribus effluvium
May 2007
This will be as shown above, on 2 cdr`s WAV format . This is a really cool interview I hope
you all enjoy this ! Stu .


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Joined: Nov 21 2007
Glad to see this one move

Not to many true historians here. I`m just making a list for anyone else interested.

1. That Nice Hippy Guy
2. TxJed
3. pdave

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You Got It!

I'll send this one out tomorrow. Enjoy!

Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor.

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yeah, I'll take it if there isn't a line for it!!!

Joined: Nov 21 2007
you folks are missing out

on one hell of a history lesson about your favorite band of all time ..

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Holdin On To It!

I've got it ready to go to anyone that wants it!

Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor.

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Out today

To TxJed.

Thanks again,

"You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."

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I Love History!

1. That Nice Hippy Guy
2. TxJed

Good to know you got shoes to wear when you find the floor.

Joined: Nov 21 2007
Garcia & co.

I`ll have this out today . This is a nice peice of history , kinda suprised there is`nt more interest in it . guise we don`t have to many GD historians here . Enjoy Trevor !

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I'll take it

1. That Nice Hippy Guy

Thanks alot Stu.

"You know the one thing we need is a left handed monkey wrench....."


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Garcia & Co. 1967 Interview Vine