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Siriusly...

...shall we go, you and I while we can...
Yeah, aud, you're right, waiting may have advantages except that 1) no one is thinking XM will buy out Sirius, 2) once Sirius buys out XM, Sirius will have control of the receiver market and the price of receivers MAY go up, and 3) If you buy right after the merger, it's sounding like you'll pay Christmas time rates for the receiver anyway.

This deal's gonna happen, it's just too bad the lawyers aren't making good arguements for it to go through (yet). "Al A Carte" is a bad dining option and a worse marketing strategy. I'd try the "buffet" concept, myself.

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Merger

I've been following this in the business news for a while, and frankly will be surprised if it doesn't come to pass. I definitely have no plans to buy into either until this thing shakes out.

Lots of investment news on this thing this week with the NAB whining about how they aren't buying the "a la carte" argument that Karmazin has been touting.

Anyway, meantime I still enjoy XM online (thanks to my boss' subscription for his cars) and my pal Denny's Sirius online login when he's not using it.

Sitting back on my lawnchair waiting for it all the shake out one way or the other before I even think about shopping!

And enjoying the hell out of this Boston show at work this morning...

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Interview with Sirius President...

...shall we go, you and I while we can...

Mel Karmakin on Fox News who said he expected the merger with XM to take place before the first of the year. The strategy is to say that Sirius and XM are competing with any music delevery system you can put in your home, car, or office, thus avoiding the monopoly issue. He also said that post-merger, "ala carte" channel purchase an other "efficiencies" would reduce the monthly cost to $6.95 per customer. So kick back and enjoy that GD channel , because it isn't going anywhere. Look for deals on receivers and adapters at stores like Best Buy and Circuit City, 'cause their cheaper there.

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GD On sirius

I love this preview, I drive about 10hrs aday and I haven't changed the station yet.I dont have any good thing to say about any big corperations but sometimes you just need to set back and listen to the music the deads music makes me happy and kind of hides me away from the machine.So let's just Enjoy.... Gans keep up the good work you have to be a good dude cause youre tight with railroad earth my second favriote band.

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The preview has been a week of bliss for me...

Got a great Wharf Rat playing right now...Jerry's in rare form on this one...using Firefox so I don't have the show-date info, but it's sweetly spooky. I'll reiterate what I said yesterday in the 'what are you listening to now' thread...I hope Sirius keeps this channel going for as long as possible after it officially launches.

And it's good to know that Gans is helping Sirius out...

"Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right."

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Cool..!

That would be very sweet if it becomes free as it is out of my price range at present! It all sounds like a really great and fantastic thing indeed! This would really expand the Dead's audience in the international market! J :)

Are you kind?

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...let that deal go down....

On the note of Satellite radio...I saw a car kits for them in a local retail store for 28.95 with all the adapters and such. Not sure what the monthly fees are to get it going, but as a consumer without it now, it got me to look. The GD channel thread also made me look twice. I can get my shows for free off the internet, but you can only listen to NPR and the classic rock stations for so long ya know...

Eric

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Don't bet on it...

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When Sirius radio announced that they formed a relationship with Warner's/ Rhino for the Satellite Station in late May,Sirius simultaneously took out an unsecured loan of 250 million dollars from Morgan Stanley. Morgan Stanley did not make that loan lightly. "Unsecured" means there was no collateral involved. It's easy to see what happened here. Sirius stock is down, the XM merger is taking longer than expected,right? So the reason Morgan Stanley gave Sirius a quarter of a billion dollars was to secure its relationship with Warners/Rhino and to give Sirius some cash to get the start up going in this relationship going with Warners/Rhino.in the form of the GD channel. The GD channel is a good test balloon to see how things will work, and so far everyone loves it! Two months were spent in getting things together programmatically (David Gans input, etc.) to make it a success. So I think that the GD channel goes full time August 10, or if not shortly there after ironing out any last minute wrinkles. This is the bottom line, boys and girls: Warners wants to own Sirius and XM for their satellite bandwidth, Sirius and XM want to make a boatload of money on that sale and Morgan Stanley wants the interest pay off on its loan(part of which went for a right to broadcast vault material). This is the world of corporate finance.And BTW, I'VE NEVER SEEN A MORE PESSIMISTIC BUNCH OF DEADHEADS! you're gonna have your "radio" station, soon for free, so don't worry!

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I am loving the DEAD

I am loving the DEAD channel. I'm a little pissed they won't simply start the GD channel. They said sometime this summer...well its Mid August already. (I just think it will disapear for another month after the 9th)

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Mergers

...shall we go, you and I while we can...

I'm gonna bend this thread for a minute just to respond that all monoopolies are not bad, in fact most that are approved are benign. Don't think Warners is the bad guy, THE BAND WOULDN'T HAVE A WIDE AUDIENCE WITHOUT THEIR CONTRACT WITH WARNERS FROM '67 TO '73! An believe me, the money made on a Grateful Dead Channel,music CD's and merchandise is NOTHING when you compare it to the relationship with Sirius (and XM) that will get Warners the satellite bandwidth necessary to transmit first run feature movies to theaters around the world without any middlemen in the analog world. That's millions of dollars per film, my friend, and that's what this is really all about. Trust me, I did the homework. You're gonna have "satellite radio" free soon enough, so that films can be advertised on it.It costs literally nothing for the GD channel to exist.One last thing to remember,Warners/Rhino did not buy the Vault (another common misconception) they lisenced it from the band for ten years, so in 8 1/2 years, there will be a new deal to make for both parties.

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