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Going Furthur...

Whatever the current version of Furthur is up to, discuss it here!

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Don't Take Candy From Strangers

I'm not condoning dosing of the unwitting, but this was at a Furthur show, which is known by many to be a psychedelic scene (never trust a prankster, right?), so folks should be on their toes about this sort of thing, but even if they aren't knowledgeable about what to expect at a Furthur show, then there's always the conventional wisdom found in the subject line of this post. And for the record, I've been alcohol-free for almost 20 years, and the last GD shows that I attended, I did so as a Wharf Rat. Again, I'm not condoning dosing, but I will make some noise about people taking responsibility for themselves, which is one of the main things that I've learned in recovery from alcohol and hard dope.

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My point, at least

is that reports indicate that not all people who ate the chocolates were doing so as an informed choice of what they were getting, and having personally known someone who was really messed up for a long time by being unknowingly dosed with who knows what at a show, I'm pretty strongly of the belief that dosing people without their knowledge and consent is pretty vicious.

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Chocolate items

Friday at Redrocks, a friend of mine thinks he may have been dosed unknowingly (beer cup ?). Saturday, a friendly blond woman, 30-ish, offered neatly packaged rectangular chocolate bars including mushroom ingredients. She also offered round cups, in green foil wrap, similar to a peanut butter cup. I don't believe she'd have purposely given one to someone without the recipient knowing what the "candy" really was, I stuck with the Dale's Pale ale...

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Think the point

Is that you always are offered the choice to get high, it is never presented unannounced. Especially these latter days. There is a lot more acid around again.

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Think the point

Is that you always are offered the choice to get high, it is never presented unannounced. Especially these latter days. There is a lot more acid around again.

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Hey Hal !

Mary & I were at those Fri & Sat Red Rocks as well.
You are in for a treat, my brother
Furthur has accelerated to warp speed.
And don't forget to fasten your seat belt.
Best to you and Deb and enjoy the ride.

I predict a Furthur treat in your future.

Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.

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What's your point?

I was approached by the person offering chocolates: I declined. If you don't want them, don't eat them.

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WARNING--crossposted from Wharf Rats thread

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passing it on

Sunday night at Red Rocks, 2 wrats were offered chocolate that was packaged in a commercial way,while they were standing at the table. this happened right before the set break meeting. They examined it and ate it and the guy who gave it to them said nothing and walked away. This is a horrible thing to happen to someone in recovery, let alone anyone! Even with people who are using, proper "drug edicate", is always to ask if the person wants to dose. It was an extremely frightening experience for those 2 wrats and I would hate for this to happen again. I don't know if the person who gave it to them had malicious intent b
ut it should never have happened. Here is a description of the chocolate and packaging: silver foil on the inside with a lilac colored label with printed ingredients and some sort of local logo for chocolate company. It was a smaller bar and chocolate had nuggets in it.
I did some research and found out these we're all over redrocks, and apparently had mushroom powder in them. Not sure if this was someone local from Colorado or if they will have them on the whole tour. Please be aware if you are attending any upcoming shows. This happened right at the wharf rat table!!
I pray this never happens again

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WaMu

Didn't see a Seattle setlist post on Furthur's Facebook page yet. Here comes Portland!!

09/25/12 (Tue) WaMu Theater - Seattle, WA

Set 1: Victim or the Crime (1) > Lost Sailor > Saint of Circumstance > Colors of the Rain > Candyman, All Along the Watchtower > Just A Little Light, Big Bad Blues, Cosmic Charlie

Set 2: Passenger, Jack Straw, Estimated Prophet > Mountains of the Moon > The Eleven > Terrapin Station Suite > Wharf Rat > Touch of Grey E: Bertha

Comment: (1) first time played by Furthur

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Pretty excited here to be hooking up with cosmicbadger for all three shows in Portland and also with Mona and Johnman for the show tomorrow. Hi Ted,, those Red Rocks shows sound great!

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