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this seems as good a time as any...

to roll this topic over. See the next incarnation here: http://www.dead.net/forum/channel-666-current-events-and-discussion

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Shalom to you, Ami

And a very good Passover to you and yours.

Ami
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lest we forget...on Passover yet

A few people brought the last days worth of talk to my attention and I must admit the semantics surrounding the abominations of a society led by a meglomaniac have me quizzical. Trif, I guess you like the word play, but here's the truth, because it happened to my uncle- first they did round up the gypsies, politicals, homosexuals, and others deemed not of the party. After the first initial Anschlusses' (taking over of neighboring countries- captive allies as you will) came the separation, humiliation, and complete assissnation of the Jews of Europe. My uncle and an entire side of my family being part of this. Camps emerged after the 'ghettoes' didn't help the war machine. Camps were for the use of utilizing people to make goods and strengthen the Nazi position as the war waged. POWs don't usually get gassed upon entering a camp. My maternal homeland of Lithuania had an atrocity BEFORE the camps- the entire Jewish population was led into the woods, dug their burial pits, and were then shot. No camps needed, oh yeah, were they POWs? They were prisoners and there was a war. Tomorrow at sundown I will celebrate the Jews flight from Ramses II hold, and mark the freedoms I have as a Jew in America. We always say, remember, it can happen again (Darfur, Tibet, Croatia, the list goes on...) So please Trifecta- don't squabble over atrocities- they happened, my relatives have/had numerical tattoos to prove it, and many died. A camp is a ghetto, is a boycott, is a defamation. Shalom to all. Ami

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pseudoscience

Well I think this is derived by many people having hope in "the spirit world or aka Pseudoscience" and putting all their money and poker chips into something that actually does not work. Please don’t get me wrong. when I am sick I do meditate (but this is putting my faith in the human body not some Psychic or healer trying to make a dime) and try to fight off those little nasty germs, but I also dose myself hard with antibiotics etc that are prescribed by a professional doctor (who are also trying to make a dime but their method is proven) etc. It is really a discussion of false hope. Just as evil as the insurance companies and the medical practisoners or their representatives can be, they are regulated to some point) (and most doctors really want to do good) then the so called natural healers should be as well. Pseudoscience is the correct terminology. I have five pillars to life and death but this is the one area where I am not completely decided. I feel that the believers should prove to the non believers and not the other way around. This is one of the problems with Pseudoscience; the non-believer has to always prove point for point while the believer gets a pass. Anyway.

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from bbc news

A change in the law could mean mediums, psychics and healers face prosecution if they cannot justify their claims. Spiritualists are delivering a mass petition to Downing Street and complaining that a genuine religion is being discriminated against.

How can one prove the spirit world, isn't that what faith is? shouldn't all branches of religious beliefs justify their existence with cold hard facts. fact is,it's all heresay(not heresey)

"ARE YOU A GOD"(ghostbusters)

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to Everyone (more thoughts of the day)

In deciding times we gain strength and knowledge. I want to thank Frankly for helping me see the other perspective and would really like to thank everyone for actually making my brain work. I do not and would not ever share my view point on any other site or all those fucking blogs and myspace etc. I am here with the only people who i have really related to my whole life.

Today someone asked me about the picture of the Palestinian father who was shielding himself with his dead son’s body while avoiding Israeli military fire. (please dont ask me my view on this as it is complicated). It is another one of these heart renching acts that brings tears to your eye. as i like to say, Anyway.

This was my response to he or she who was asking me if i have ever heard of this.

Actually there is a huge picture in the central square in Bamako, Mali. Very sad indeed. This whole Tibet discussion that I am caught up in is just for fun really. I know that everyone who is speaking their mind is in some way correct but I just want to know more really. I have learned that in this world you have to get along with everyone and work with everyone in order to make the world a better place, to learn, and to feed your family. There is a talking heads song that best represents this worldly view. This is not the name of the song (once in a lifetime) but some of the lyrics, “same as it ever was.” This shit has been going on since the beginning of time. Other stars and galaxies swallowing others etc. We human beings are not really so special after all. We are a part of something so big, that our problems really don’t mean anything. We live and then we die and after a while it all gets washed away. Be good to other people and leave a positive mark on this planet. .

Do you know what I mean.

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throwing Stones ok i will go first

you go in that team
i go on this team
divide everything
a flag or a number
make 'em opposites
so there's a reason
stigmatisation
ok now we can fight
divide everything
just put it all flat
justification
ok now you can fight

it is correct and reasonable

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oh,tiger lilly,..

i think i dont need to take a deep breath or two.i did that allready,and if you read my comments you will see that i am not into manipulation,abusive language etc.i am all right,after the last night:-)(-:Hasta la vista!Frankly

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Not to violate marye´s mod hat

But perhaps you guys should take a deep breath or two.
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Don't part with your illusions. When they are gone, you will still exist, but you have ceased to live.
Samuel Clemens

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“Hot as a piston but cool in side”

Just as the onese before you, you are also still running. Run run run run
you got to run like a .................................. out of control

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