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TRIFECTA

i wont start your dirty game.if you are openly advocating Nazi-propaganda i wont discuss with you.only one thing POW means prisoner of war,which started 1939.people who were against the Nazis and foremost Jews,Gypsies,etc.they were being killed right from the start.do you know the names heydrich,k.h. frank.?

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i dont need to surf around ,to be able to give a reasonable response to such incredible BNULLSHIT that you are not ashamed to spread around you.Do you even know what concentration camp means.do you even know for what purpose there where built.I wont give into your poor game and start to explain you the historical facts(yes F-A-C-T-S).This is not about your or mine or anybodys opininon.this is about the SHOAH,and i am completly astonished how lightlyhearted you talk about stuff you know O%!!!!!!!Poor Jerk!!!!

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So Trifecta, when you meet an exiled Tibetan do you ask them what "Free Tibet" really means? What do you tell them, that they don't know the whole story? That they need to hear and understand the Chinese point of view in order to talk about what "Free Tibet" is?

I really want to hear your answer to this.

Can't you hear their pain and suffering? Or are you so lost in this intellectual game.

I have listened to many in the mining industry explain the need for strip mines and the timber industry the need for clear cuts. And I have heard reasons for China in Tibet.

I have some understanding of the Chinese position and much of it is pure imperialist bullshit. In some respects similar to Nazi bullshit and the bullshit that the U.S used to kill many Native Americans and destroy their culture.

China is the Middle Kingdom, the center of the universe, blah, blah, blah. Western Democracy is great let us force it down your unwilling throats. Christianity is the only way, we will torture and kill you unless you convert.

End Chinese Imperialism and Genocide in Tibet. End Western Imperialism and Genocide in much of the rest of the world. End the imperialism and genocide by Industrial Growth Society of the natural world.

Injustice is injustice my man. There are always reasons to rationalize it but I believe people, other species and ecosystems have the right to not be dominated by others.

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

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Cosmicbadger

Your long post is excellent, thanks. Many of my views exactly. But of course I have more to say on this topic, which I will.

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

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Trifecta

I think people have given you many answers but you are not listening. You sound like a bureaucrat.

It is not my job to describe what form a free Tibet is exactly, that is up to the Tibetans. However earlier I did give you a description of what I thought is meant by the term Free Tibet and what Free Tibet means to me.

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake

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frankly

before you start surfing the net for your thoughts please pause and think what you are about to post. Concentration camps were devloped from POW camps. At one time i really thought you knew what you were talking about. But now you are cuting and pasting on impualse. Come on is ther eanyone else who can teach frankly who once said he would never reply to one of my posts the truth about WW2? This is well documentated my friend and your counter post truly shows you have no idea

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Concentration camp

or POW camp?

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cosmicbadger

One more thing before I go to bed. You have not given me the answer I am looking for. Without surfing the net for answers. Please describe the meaning of the following in connection to Tibet.

Your wrote. I think ‘way of life, belief system, art, architecture, language, way of relating to the world’ is a fair summary of what culture means, if not I am sure Wikipedia can help out.

If you are defending the Tibetan Belief system then you should know something about it.

Have been to most of the places you have been to but they are very different than China and Tibet. Asia is a big place. You should know better than to clump it all together. Indo is another world compared to Tibet or Sichuan or China in general. We are taking about a particular area here. That’s like me saying ya I have been to Mexico so I know what they are saying in Canada. I have been asking a simple question all along. What does Free Tibet mean? And know \body can give me a real answer. Sure free to think bla bla bla but if Tibet is free who will take power and what will this new or old power bring or return to? Ok now I have to try to put these thoughts to rest. Good night and see you tomorrow.

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Man,the 1st

concentration camp was opend 2 weeks after Hitler has taken power in 1933.it was in Dachau,a town nearby Munich and made for 5000 prisoners.i see that your information is googled together otherwise you could not openly say such incredible crap:21st of March 1933 is the 75 birthday of the 1st camp.

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cosmicbadger

very good post. i have to hit the sack for now will carry on tomorrow.

cheers

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