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Feedback for Ed

Hi Ed --I just finished reading your piece over morning coffee so this is off the top of my head without much thinking.

I liked your piece. It is well written and is pretty thorough in it's treatment of comparing two runs of similar length by two different bands playing much the same material. I really liked the analogy of the copy of Dionysus' followers (dancing maened) made by the Romans even as I disagreed with it's import --that Furthur was as much of historical significance as the Grateful Dead. In this respect the two cannot be compared. Furthur will never have any of it's performances in the National Archive. Nobody (but you) is intimating they are good enough to have an exhibit in any museum, much less have their own museum (The archive at UCSC). The Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame in Cleveland would be the obvious place to honor Furthur and I don't think they're ever going to do it.

Your summation at the end is the weakness of the entire piece. You don't really tie it all together and declare your finding. Were they comparable, not comparable or does the whole concept of comparing these two entities have any merit at all?

As with all of these types of articles about the Grateful Dead it is easy for me to pick out the inaccuracies in fact about the Grateful Dead's historical performances. The Grateful Dead did Jack Straw in the second set on a handful of occasions, The Grateful Dead played LTGTR from 1989 to 1994 something like 30 times. The Grateful Dead opened with Space on 10/31/85 into Werewolves of London.

I have been looking/calling for analysis of Furthur performances and I am grateful for yours. Especially your counting of the beats to measure tempo. There is definitely a slow-down there. They also speed up on a couple of tunes like Casey Jones and Cosmic Charlie. I do think you miss the main point when comparing Jerry and JK. I can't belabor the point here in as I've made it clear in other threads.

I thought the most interesting point in the whole article is that Jerry thought 2012 was a special year. And Furthur will be playing on the evening of the transformation/cataclysm. That is something I have been saying for years. I think many of us flashed on that at one time or another between 1965 and 1995. We just didn't see it would be with Bob & Phil carrying the torch into that dark and stormy night... Well, maybe not necessarily "dark and stormy", but an appropriate ritual for a couple of aging warlocks!

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Furthur's Beacon Run vs the Dead's MSG Run

I just posted an analysis of Furthur's 8-night run at the Beacon this past April to the Grateful Dead's 9-night run at Madison Square Garden in 1991 on my blog:

http://rockandrollnerd.wordpress.com/2012/07/17/the-boys-take-manhattan-the-beacon-theater-2012-vs-madison-square-garden-1991/

I would love to get your feedback.

Thanks!
-Ed

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HAPPY FATHER'S DAY JERRY
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TO ALL FATHER'S HERE AND THERE
AND EVERYWHERE-
ALL OVER THE WORLD!

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Greenfield interviewed by Gans

"The constant conflict in the band was, "Jerry, we're going on the road again." And he would say, "More money, man? Really, what for?" He had no financial incentive to go on the road with the Dead. The Jerry Garcia Band was selling out venues that the Dead had previously sold out. His artwork and ties were earning him money. And he had royalties from Cherry Garcia ice cream. He could have stayed home, made music, and painted. He had to ask himself, "What am I doing here with people who think I'm God, who are thirty years younger than me, who worship me but don't know me?" Jerry talked about it with Laird Grant, who was the Dead's first roadie: "This scares me," Jerry said. "I don't want this. It's too much weight."

Ahhhhh Jerry, thanks so much for all the good times. The more you do for others...

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Garcia Interview On Altamont

I think it was on one of those Rock History documentaries and the topic was Altamont. Jerry was giving insights on it, and I remember one of the things he said was "the air was particulating." I did read a quote where Jerry likened Altamont to "a day in hell." If anyone knows the documentary I am talking about I would like to know. I do remember that Altamont was presented as the end of the 60's.

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Gypsy Soul

Is that really you? It's been a long time since I saw you here...welcome back!

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agreed cosmicbadger

yea, i saw this last year and was a bit freaked by it.

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Jerry's last video interview

This is new to me and good to see..although his joke about borrowed time at the start is scarily prescient

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Not paying attention

Toward the end of July I started re watching the Grateful Dead videos on YT. My usage increased daily until last night When I stared watching right after work and didn't stop until 1AM. I also took a tour and caught up on the other members and their bands. Today it occurred to me that there might be a reason for this. Aug. 1, 1942. Duh.

I wonder if there are going to be any memorial events in the TwinCities, MN area on Aug 9?

I guess this feeling never goes away.

Thanks Jerry.

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Jerry Day everyday!

Jerry is one of the greatest people to have ever graced this little planet of ours! I think of him often but especially today on his birthday. I still get chills when I hear his music and he will forever be etched indelibly in my memory.

Happy birthday Mr. Garcia and thank you for your endless contributions to our worldwide Deadhead family!

"Emancipate yourself from mental slavery...none but ourselves can free our minds"

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