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 suggested by Stuman: How about a forum deadicated just to our Mother Earth ? A place where we can talk specificly about recycling tips, reusing of what we can`t recycle and reducing waste. And other enviromental issues. I'm actually surprised we don't have something like this. Greenpeace and other groups have always been around the shows (at least the shows I remember) . And the GD has been into saving the rainforest and saving our Mother Earth. So lets talk about it here. Earth Day should be every day!! what do you all think abt it?

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ka.swan (not verified)
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i just read on a Greenpeace blog that since the BP oil explosion , the Obama administration has granted 27 exemptions for more oil drillings ! A few names for business as usual :Shell,Herr-Mc Geeoil,Royal Exploration cie, MCX Gulf of Mexico, Tana Exploration cie,Tarpon Operating, Rooster Petroleum,,Phoenix Exploration cie, Apache Corps, Hall-Huston Exploration.

ka.swan (not verified)
vacation !

Bahamas probably best because I was in Cancun once and the beaches were trashed from a oil spill that wasn't cleaned up properly , and there were these pea size gooks sticking on you , your clothes and beach towel daily , and guess what ? It's very difficult to remove gas oil drops, most clothes ending being thrown away and having to use a awfull chemical to get that stuff off your skin is no fun at all ! But across from Cancun , there was the island Mujeres, which was nicer than Cancun , a noisy show off place for partying drunks , mostly .

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San Miguel

Shazam! I just saw a guy in a San Miguel shirt yesterday. Hey, I might be out in Portland Monday...gotta job to do a little ways up the river.
I've made no decision on a Caribbean vacation site yet....will advise.

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dang!!

if i could afford either the bahama's or cancun i think i'd just go to the philippines and drink san miguel beer and tanduay e.s.q. rum until i was pleasantly stupid.

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Hurricane season may be real active

Say, if you're to choose between Cancun & the Bahamas in September, where would YOU go?

lamagonzo (not verified)
Just in (unconfirmed) BP has "plugged the damn hole"

There is an unconfirmed report that BPs latest "topkill" operation has STOPPED the leak. The next 24 hours are said to be critical in putting in the cement to permanently plug the leak. Reportedly, the pressure of oil was said to be low. Apparently, the well was on the verge of bleeding out.

BP and the rest of the industry just had no technical fix for this problem when the pressure was high.

The bad news? The first hurricane of this beginning season will drive the oil about 4 miles inland and then further up in the area watersheds. There are no hurricanes at present though a near one approaching from the Mexican side could push a tidal surge of oil.

I hope this is not a rumor. There is no other confirmation at this time.

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maybe it's because I'm in California

but offshore drilling is definitely still a hot issue here, though the current disaster makes the famed Santa Barbara one that led to such strict controls look like nothing. At the height of high gas prices there is hollering to allow offshore drilling again but it never gets much traction, even BEFORE something like this comes along. So offshore drilling is always plenty visible in the media hereabouts.

ka, very interesting about Big Chem, Big Agra, and Big Government in France. I wonder how many US foodies are aware of this; it was sure news to me.

ka.swan (not verified)
Exactly !

Exactly , Lamagonzo ! It's obvious these BP oil platforms are not safe and look alike wire, bubblegum and duct tapes cheapest make do constructions ! But isn"t why medias conveniently show nothing about these oil rigs on the Gulf !

ka.swan (not verified)
Liberté ?

For over 20 years now ,freedom of speech is outlawed in France and people can go to jail for years for political opinions , writers can be prosecuted and ruined for ideas , and 95% of the political medias are financed by govt (taxpayers !) to only mouth pre-approved single-minded formated ideas about every single topic ! It reminds me of the dark ages when the Vatican sent their bigots in the most remote villages to burn "witches" never enough conform to the "religious" dogma . When politicians of any country demand conformism to their opinions and persecute whoever do not believe as they do , on whatever subject ,and we are obligated to pay taxes that continue to finance oppression against the people , are we in a communist program , a world dictature of Money rules , or a monotheist religion , where all ideas must be conform or else ? Liberty is like Ecology , when you want a clean blackyard for yourself with the right to get rich while polluting everyone else 's backyards , it's not sustainable forevermore!

lamagonzo (not verified)
Another 90,000 barrels of oil today

Somebody else said in another thread "Their hearts are covered with oil". I second that emotion.

As others have said above, this is is putting our reliance on oil in sharp perspective. Is it too radical to say that we are a little bit complicit every time we stop to fill up at the gas pump?

Other people are praying for divine intervention at this point. Professors of oceanography are screaming for real science instead of the bailing wire, bubble-gum and duct tape approach used by the oil industry.

Just 5 weeks into this ongoing tragedy we are about to enter an orgy of litigation looking to make the oil industry pay and put people in jail for their negligence. As if money and justice were the most important point at this time. After, yes. But not now.

Steven Segal's movie "On Deadly Ground" told the tale of a greedy oil company in Alaska using faulty preventers to get their rig online quickly. Reality follows fiction? His three minutes at the end of the film moralizing about Big Oil preventing innovation in moving people would seem prophetic if it wasn't a widely known problem even then.

Slumping shoulders and depressed attitude, but if I lived on the Gulf Coast I'd be mad as hell. When are we going to take down the Oil Companies who rape our planet?

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