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 suggested by Stuman: How about a forum deadicated just to our Mother Earth ? A place where we can talk specificly about recycling tips, reusing of what we can`t recycle and reducing waste. And other enviromental issues. I'm actually surprised we don't have something like this. Greenpeace and other groups have always been around the shows (at least the shows I remember) . And the GD has been into saving the rainforest and saving our Mother Earth. So lets talk about it here. Earth Day should be every day!! what do you all think abt it?

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Joe

Thanks for the rinsing tips. Are no ziplock bags here, but guess could double-bag the plastic and tin trash sacks.

What is ultra cool bout all this mandatory trash sorting here (forgot to mention that sacks and bins that are not properly sorted are not picked up at all) is that my kids know no other trash life. When they stay with their Aunt in France, they are outraged at how she was just dumping everything together, and they have pestered her half to death until she started to compost, and sort out at least glass and paper to recycle. As CSNY said "Teach your children well", eh?
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Lilly,
I hear you on the complicated re-cycle programs that exist in much of the Euro zone and in other countries... as far as rinsing goes, why not fill up a basin of water, and then you are re-using the same water to rinse the stuff out... like we do when we wash dishes, a basin full of warm soapy water, then a rinse of clean water at the very end -- like the nuns taught me to do as a kid, so as not to waste water, and would slap my wrist with a ruler if I turned the tap on prematurely and wasted even one DROP...

the nuns would sing:

'Every drop is sacred.
Every drop is great.
If a drop is wasted,
God gets quite irate.'

(well, something like that anyways...)
( -;

all in all, i think the benefits of keeping that metal crap out of land fills outweighs any waste of water. if batteries and iron and so on and so on, get into an unsealed land fill, or even a so called 'sealed' landfill, rather than being re-cycled, (even though it has to be rinsed,, I know what you are commenting about) if the rusty shit which ends up in the underground water sources, aquafiers and such, we may lose precious sources of fresh water, which once poisened may never recover... or cause people / animals to get serious diseases or poisened.

if you have cans and such, big zip-lock bags (I mean the really huge ones) can be used to prevent odours from escaping. or in a plastic garbage bag that you seal up...

a recycle center only for diapers! cool!!!

keep in mind, YOUR baby's poop smells like roses, don't it???

one other story of re-cycleing, and how WE are everywhere... back a number of years ago, a buddy of mine was living on Oahu, Hawaii... anyways, long before it became 'fashionable' or law he was heavy into re-cycling EVERYTHING... so we were up toward the north shore, in some of the older 'off the grid' zones, and he always had crates and crates full of glass and cans in the back of his car... we pass some church he knew of, that was collecting bottles because in those days you could actually get money from them, and the church was doing that to raise funds for whatever or what.

so it was mid week, and the place was pretty quiet, we pull up, unload a TON of stuff. a local dude comes rushing out as we were finishing up, and asks, "hey, you guys didn't put any 'trash' in there did you?" my buddy looks at him, and says 'of course not'
the local dude looks down at the bumper of my friends car which had a steal your face or something GD sticker on it... then he says,
'oh hey, I'm sorry, I didn't see you were one of the good guys, we get a lot of people who just dump their house hold garbage here' turns out, that dude was the parish priest, and yes, though not a total deadhead, but i do remmber he commented, that American Beauty was a fine album...

the effort is worth the recycle hassles you may have to endure. and as noonie pointed out, it does feel good to be part of the solution, don't it??

peace.

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my greening efforts

I work at a hotel and we are constantly printing out reports, reg cards, memos, travel itinerarys well we use way to much paper. So i started recycling as much of this as possible, i didn't ask anyone else to (because i don't believe in forceing my ideals on others) after people saw me digging in the trash pulling out all this paper and anything esle i could find to recycle they started putting paper and what not aside for me to recycle.....It's not that easy for me to recycle ...i live in a rural area there is no trash pick up... i take all our trash to the dump sort through it.... they do some recycling at the dump...and of course we have a compost pile for our garden...it just feels good trying to be part of the solution not the problem

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A Trash Saga

Here in Germany, I seem to spend a whole lot of time sorting trash. Plastic drink bottles (cola, water, o.j. etc) have a deposit on them, and are brought back to the store. Glass bottles have to be carried away to collection dumpsters, and then sorted according to color. Corks and batteries are collected in shops. Small electrical appliances have to be brought to an electronics shop. For "big trash" ie furniture, I have to fill out a form, list all that I want to dispose of, and then am given a date for when the things will be picked up; am allowed to do this twice a year. At home I have 3 different trash cans, all of which cost quite a bit per year. The brown one is for biodegradable things, and is picked up every two weeks in winter, and once a week in summer. In summer, this can is annoying, cuz the flies love it. Then there is the green one, that is for paper and cardboard. Is picked up once a month. Plastic and tin goes in sacks, which are picked up once a month. "Old metal" ie:bicycles, bed frames, etc. are collected every few months, by a wagon driven down the street by a guy ringing a bell to announce his arrival. Christmas trees are picked up by the village volunteer fire department every January; and shoes and old clothes periodically by the Salvation Army. When we needed diapers here, we took the dirty ones to the very stinky diaper recycling facility, every Saturday morning, on the way to the grocery store (with the car full of the empty drink bottles, any corks had collected, and batteries that had recently died).

Sometimes I wonder how much water this trash collecting process wastes (have to rinse out plastic food boxes and tins to be able to stand having them sit around in sacks at home for a month). Sometimes I am annoyed to have to separate packaging-plastic from cardboard, etc. And it was no fun to have smelly diapers around the house for a week, nor is the fly epidemic around the bio-trash any big thrill. Means that flyswatters a necessity in every room of the house. BUT, in the end is all worth it, I hope.
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we compost

we compost everything we can , we break up the used eggshells into small peices , add the used coffee grounds and we shread all the junk mail to add to the compost. evern toilet paper rolls get re-used as either compost or we use them as starter planters for seedling plants.

Thank you Marye ! And nice post cc ! We only have one Mother Earth !

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another useful resource

is Freecycle, which has local lists in cities all over the place. I have both given and gotten a lot of very useful stuff.

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recycle and compost

http://www.loosefillpackaging.com/

if nothing else, these kind folks maybe able to steer you in the right direction for a local solution,

or, as gypsy cowgirl suggests, tryyour local mailboxes etc. or such place for recycling those packing peanuts

or call the

The Peanut Hotline:

1-800-828-2214

(tell them cc joe said to call)

AND, I will say two more things while I'm on my bio-degradable soapbox:

lots of folks recycle glass, newspapers, plastic and such, but it is also important to recycle your food waste, egg shells, veggie scraps and fruit peels, coffee grinds, etc. etc. etc.

http://compostinstructions.com/

as easy as 3.14

finally, the whole techno 'puter biz has created a landmine of landfill problems, check this site out for the recycling of computer stuff:

http://www.computerhope.com/disposal.htm

a lot of computer garbage ends up in the third world, and poor people 'mining the waste in search of the valuable metals in the chips or where ever. problem is, they use their one main cooking pot to melt them down, after that, they use the same pot to cook dinner. thereby poisening themselves in the long run. very sad but true.

peace.

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