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 suggested by Stuman: How about a forum deadicated just to our Mother Earth ? A place where we can talk specificly about recycling tips, reusing of what we can`t recycle and reducing waste. And other enviromental issues. I'm actually surprised we don't have something like this. Greenpeace and other groups have always been around the shows (at least the shows I remember) . And the GD has been into saving the rainforest and saving our Mother Earth. So lets talk about it here. Earth Day should be every day!! what do you all think abt it?

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lamagonzo (not verified)
A rogue wave

Can take out an oil platform. They exist. High water mark have been noted on some rigs.

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yeah

that 60 Minutes was definitely worth watching.

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60 minutes feature

CBS devoted over 20 minutes to the Deepwater disaster, with interviews with a survivor of the catastrophy and a consultant. BP is ultimately responsible for insisting upon pushing harder for production at the expense of overlooking defective safety precautions.
The guy that survived jumped off the platform and dropped 90 feet into the water.....
Worry now about another platform: the Atlantis....

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BP has partial success plugging leak

BP has has partial success in plugging the 70k a day rupture of their oil platform in the Gulf. It now appears that BP was rushing to put it on-line and Haliburton and Trans Ocean were happy to oblige.

Given that the smaller leaks will be quickly cleaned up, BP is seeking to celebrate this as heroes of the day for not letting much of the oil wash ashore. This was achieved by releasing massive amounts of chemical detergent dropped from planes or released in the ocean.

I don't see much to celebrate here in this catastrophe. For almost 4 weeks 70k gallons of oil (divide by 55 for the # of 55 gallon barrels). One million nine hundred and sixty thousand gallons of oils makes this the worst ecological catastrophe ever. That is what is spilled to date, with a partial plug.

What else is there to say except stop this self-propelled fossil fuel death spiral that includes "green" cars still sucking gas and oil, like the Prius) before we become extinct.

~ Say a prayer for the hard-working people ~

lamagonzo (not verified)
Amount of oil spewing

The amount of oil estimated coming from broken pipe has been figured anywhere from 5k to 210k. After BP released the picture of the pipe several scientists figured out the amount is somewhere near 70k.

Yikes! Break up BP, Halliburton and make Trans Ocean pay and pay till they get delisted from the NYSE!

Is there any way we can somehow make Goldman Sachs pay double after these three pay? We could use the money to export safe drilling practices around the world (as if we don't know how to do it in THIS country already).

I love the beach. It makes me whole again in the summer. My life will be greatly diminished if I have no access or don't want to go near, never mind in, the stinking mess.
Still, it's not my home. Other animal species will not survive this that do live there!

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are asking that question!

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a safer planet ?

with Halliburton and Goldman Sachs this world is not going to be a safer place anytime soon ! As long as a handfull of greedy anonymous can do more harm than billions of goodwill people can do , how can we have a safer planet ?

lamagonzo (not verified)
210,000 gallons of oil again today...

...spilled into the Gulf. This fucker is freaky, especially since Cheney's Halliburton is involved.

Agree w/Alaskahead -- if this goes uncapped long enough it WILL go up the East Coast and profoundly effect the Eastern Seaboard. I'm not sure us frogs notice much anymore when God turns up the heat under our beaker.

Though it does seem to be getting hot these days. Yes.

~ This face is getting hot ~

ka.swan (not verified)
future spills

there is this media black out to show nothing about how flimsy these BP installations are in the gulf , so besides solving this current oil spill , the action should be to pressure goverments to much better standards of quality for offshore drillings , in the gulf, and elsewhere, otherwise there will be more of these disasters eventually ! and of course uncorrumpt environmental agencies to insure their safety . Why not tax Wall Street who make year around profits for BP ?

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re: another day in the Gulf

Well, does our planet have a chance? As an orb spinning around it won't miss us, but that's not the issue. What about our nests? I think long term this catastrophe may set off some revolutions of thought and action. If BP or whoever can't stop the leak it certainly will result in the Gulf becoming a Dead Zone, and then currents will take the crude along the Eastern seaboard, and the economies of all those areas will be ruined, people will be pissed to no end, there's no money to feed them all:riots could ensue, the elections coming up: vote them all out, seize BPs assets: international strife & stock market collapse due to uncertainty, and all these seemingly crazy potentials might lead to Govt to consider nuking the well head to close it off. There's the movie script, but some of that could happen, there will be a long delayed-domino reaction economically to this spill. Most of us are spectators at the moment, but what action can we take? We as individuals can't stop the leak, but we can wean ourselves from oil as much as we can, and vote against the idea that corporations are citizens deserving more consideration than the individuals that supposedly comprise them. Yes, another day, another 210,000 gallons, but since most can't see it we're mere spectators, for now.

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