OK...after reviewing my notes...you are correct...and I stand corrected....on the correct TERMINOLOGY on the poisonous plastic PET...which is POLYETHYLENE TERAPHTHALATE... I saw this neat little Mother Earth Forum and I decided to jump in head first....so...I was shooting from the hip from information that I have stored in this old noggin of mine...and well...you caught me guy, I admit it...but you caught me in misquoting the substance (PET) ONLY. Because I AM a deadhead...and have used many "other" substances...I have difficulty with chemical names....I continually mispronounce "Malathion" all the time- does that mean that I do not remember how dangerous a pesticide it is?

Me thinks thou protest too much.

That was the perfect spin on my chemical misnaming...I would almost have to say "politically professional"....especially considering you put bread on the table handling such products...I don't blame you...I'd prolly do the same thing...protect my ego and my conscience at the same time.

That's OK...a man is just a man.

And as for "how can we trust any of the information?" - I didn't write the book Boy's Adrift by Dr. Leonard Sax. If you read it, and follow up on any of the information, I would hope that you would come back here with an apology.

It's fun, not a weapon. I suppose that's a freudian typo...

Gratefuldean...I have to tell you...that's why I love this place and I love Deadheads and love the Grateful Dead...you seriously humbled yourself in that last post and accepted that there are dangers from PET you previously had not heard of...I'm the one now that feels like I should be apologizing to you for getting so heated for my simple mistake...I may have been projecting because I hated myself for being wrong in that instance. Lately in this confused and mixed up world...and most especially in other places on the internet...one has to be on such the defensive..and maybe that's what I was expecting and to be made a fool of...I was wrong again...and it's a lesson to me. Thank You. Love Light and Laughter

I understand that this forum MAY be about environmental efforts that each of us, as individuals, can take to "save our mother Earth". I cannot discredit this effort because it is so very important that each of us are instilled with a respect that we must not litter, try and use more environmentally friendly sources of energy, and use less so that there is some for others. But I learned a few things in an environmental science study that I think coud be helpful to some people reading this post. For one thing, the earth is not in danger. I know some of you will disagree but understood a certain way will make things much clearer. The Earth WILL go on, WE...MAY NOT. No matter how we fuck up this planet she will always survive...unless there is a huge cataclysmic upheaval in the solar system...she's gonna be here...and she will heal, but she may have to get rid of a few parasites to do it. It's all in the scale of time. She may be polluted for a time...but she'll heal.

If humans are to survive that's a whole nother story. We are going to have to get used to smaller and smaller spaces, because population growth IS a major concern for some real "big thinkers"-the only problem there is they want to get rid of half of us instead of sharing. The rise in the cost of goods and services are a direct response, or mode of conditioning, of this concern. Another thing I have learned is that this planet has enough resources to take care of this population explosion, contrary to some scientific debate, and believe it or not, Gaia, will regulate her population according to her "energy" needs...through every natural disaster imaginable. The Eugenics movement is a hoax perpetrated by the greedy.

Global warming: Look out folks...cuz you been played. Personally, my opinions are still up in the air about whether or not the planet will warm to uninhabitable levels according to the level of pollution by humanity...because of the obfuscation and confusion in the scientific world. It could still go either way. But there are two major points to consider:

About 30,000 years ago almost half this planet was covered by ice, and it has taken this long for it to melt....it's simply a natural occurrance..and she has had MANY, many cycles of this...one would think that of course the planet will get a little warmer...not necessarily by our doings. This of course presents us with problems that WE'LL have to deal with, but it doesn't necessarily mean that WE are doing it. There is debate as to whether or not this is actually precursor to ANOTHER ice age...the cycle begins again.

As for this whole thing about how our politicians have taken up the yolk about Global Warming...do some research as to the companies that are going to profit from the hysteria...look into Al Gores holdings. Check out what "they" have in store for Carbon Emissions Taxing...and you'll start to realize it's all a con game to get deeper into our lives and our pockets. Especially when you come to realize that it's not the little guys that are polluting our environment....which MAY come to fruition as a clear and present danger to our environment...that it is the Military-Industrial Complex that cranks out all these major pollutants...the rockets, the jets and airplanes, the tanks, the clear cutting of industry, the plastics and oil industry manufacture and run-off, industrial farming, and on and on and on. YET THEY STILL BLAME THE LITTLE GUYS...and now they're even going to TAX US MORE FOR IT. It's all MACHIAVELLIAN tactics in practice...create the problem and offer the solution. There are even well known documents that implicate govermental agencies that have infiltrated "green" groups for years to get us all on the bandwagon.

Free will equals free thought...so lets think about it.
Love, Light and Laughter!