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 suggested by Stuman: How about a forum deadicated just to our Mother Earth ? A place where we can talk specificly about recycling tips, reusing of what we can`t recycle and reducing waste. And other enviromental issues. I'm actually surprised we don't have something like this. Greenpeace and other groups have always been around the shows (at least the shows I remember) . And the GD has been into saving the rainforest and saving our Mother Earth. So lets talk about it here. Earth Day should be every day!! what do you all think abt it?

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Alaskahead's picture
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BP has already tried to

BP has already tried to remove themselves from liability by stating that Transocaeanic was responsible for running the rig and the operation of the BO preventor. Money and lobbying allowed oil companies and their operators to not have installed the state of the art remote controlled BO preventors, because they cost 1/2 million. The Govt agency in charge of oil operations didn't require them to have them. In my opinion there is no excuse for all their stupidity: the govt, BP, & the operator. I worked a bit on the spill recovery effort in AK on the Exxon spill, shipping out supplies to workers on beaches. The word came back via the fisherman making the delivery that if crews figured out how to clean a particular beach, they were waved off and moved somewhere. The last thing Exxon wanted was to actually have to commit to sticking it out scrubbing the beaches and rocks of the oil. Instead they lavishly threw money around to everyone around, theft was rampant, timecards were exaggerated with overtime, any and all requests for food and supplies were granted. A high time was had by all. There is still oil on many beaches, thick, tarry shit a foot or more in the gravel. Look for similar things to happen in the Gulf. They'll make a good show, but after a couple of months it will degenerate into finger pointing and questions of whose responsibility it is to fund the indefinite cleanup. Oil companies are scum, but we let them be that way because of our lifestyle and because all that good corporate manna of jobs and energy trickles down to us serfs. If this isn't an opportune wake up call for us that business controls the Govt, no matter who is in power, and that we need to slow down, live more simply, and really go green, then we deserve to live as lesser citizens.

lamagonzo (not verified)
Peak Oil Production for the SE

BP was probably trying to save money by using faulty or worn out preventers. Instead, it has ruined a beautiful area and wiped out a lot of people for this season anyway.

Ask the Indians in Alaska if the Exxon Valdez spill is "all cleaned up"..

The news has Obama still calling for oil-drilling leases in US waters (still) -- WTF?

Doesn't it make you feel better that BP will have to pay the cost of the clean-up? How about if we designate them as enemy combatatnts and send them to Guantanamo?

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Hope BP figures out how to plug the petroleum gusher

At first the oil rig leak was considered to be "under control", now the diversity of wildlife along southern Louisiana coastline is in peril. A major flow continues to flood into the deep cold water a mile down: Let's hope the recovery or capture of that petroleum is possible before it contaminates more than it already has.
This malady will certainly derail any recent Obama administration effort to allow more offshore drilling.

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bowing to a lady

A lady friend once told me she needed to re-new and strengthen her relationship with her bicycle.
How absurd, I thought. What about me? Isn't that what I'm for?
Later this same lady saved a dog from the pound and told me she couldn't do it anymore and she just wanted to be friends with me.
What? Replaced by a bicycle and jilted for a dog.
And isn't that just how humanity is; clueless as to knowing what Lady Earth wants and needs from us. Not much it seems, unless we're ready to go slow, practice unconditional love, and give way more than we receive.

lamagonzo (not verified)
Icelandic eruptions; Tibetan Shakedowns

It's hard to think that M.E. ain't trying to announce the Reckoning (by Mayan 2012?).

I don't have a clue, but think if I was toughing it out at the Copenhagen airport without being in the first-class lounge this whole "Earth to Humans" trip might be getting a tad old.

I get it. Humans are well into the experimental phase of GW here....

lamagonzo (not verified)
8.75% of rain in my home town

The 100 year flood. Except they happen all the time now, along with the not so odd tsunami 2-3 Earthquake per any long & lat.

Nobody though to buy flood insurance.

Mother Earth again asking when we will treat each other right.

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News Flash !

CNN just reported that the oil companies are so happy that they are going to donate half of their gazillions in profits to help pay for Obama's healthcare plan !

April Fools
Maybe they should erect a drilling rig on the White House lawn

lamagonzo (not verified)
Obama Admin pushing off-shore oil drilling

No llue here. So little oil comes through offshore drilling it makes no difference if we do or don't.
Very peculiar.

Ma says quit it!

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Windpower for all

Since I currently work in commercial wind energy all of your state reps need to get on board with the program. Wyoming and Oregon are really blowing it right now no pun intended, the governor of Wyoming has said that environmentally windturbines are just as detrimental to the environment as coal and oil, how ? The worst thing a windturbine can do is puke about 100 gallons of gear oil and there is a containment system around the turbine. Oregon is reducing the incentives for companies to do business in the state and increasing taxes for businesses that do over 250,000 dollars a year, really its time for a 3% sales tax in this state as there are too many people relying on social services and being a burden. With a sales tax these individuals would at least be putting back into the pot.
Enough back to wind energy if you google wind energy you could see how bad our butts are being kicked by Europe they have some monster units over there that are basically a powerplant in the sky.

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Sun and Wind

I really do want these solar and wind sources to succeed and produce power for all of us. I read recently where Yucca shut down deliveries of nuke waste.... Maybe Hal can tell us about Hanford

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