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PERRO Tapes Vine

started by Lopezz

Posted: November 19, 2008 - 4:40pm
The PERRO Tapes

Planet Earth Rock & Roll Orchestra:

David Crosby, Graham Nash, Jerry Garcia, Phil Lesh, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Grace Slick, Paul Kantner, Jorma Kaukonen, Jack Casady, David Freiberg and others...

These are some tapes of everyone above in rehersal, working through songs, and just freely jamming together. Most of the songs arent finished and some barely get started and they are over. But these are still unbelievable, everyone should hear these! The other discs are just some jam sessions I have with the same crew. The last one is Crosby,Garcia,Lesh, and Hart aka David and the Dorks. This will be 6 audio disc and a data dvd with shn/flac files.

The PERRO Tapes
Disc 1
1. Is it really Monday
2. Under Anesthesia (false start)
3. Under Anesthesia
4. Crosby - I thought I would try something original...
5. Garcia's Tune (Loser)#1
6. Garcia's Tune (Loser)#2
7. Over Jordan (Wayfaring Stranger)
8. Mountian Song #1
9. Mountian Song #2
10. Mountian Song #3
11. Mountian Song #4
Disc 2
1. Wild Turkey (Leather Winged Bat)
2. Jerry & Jorma Jam #1 (electric bat)
3. Jam #10
4. false start on tape
5. Wall Song (electric)
6. Wall Song (acoustic)
7. Rounds (EEP Hour)
8. Dope rap w/piano
9. Shuffle (jam slide 2)
10. Jerry & Jormas Jam #2 after electric bat

I will print an abridged version of the PERRO story ( and include it with the cds. The full story will be on the data dvd.

10-28-1969 Jefferson Airplane House
Jerry Garcia - Guitar
Jorma Kaukonen - Guitar
Jack Casady - Bass
Mickey Hart - Percussion
Spencer Dryden - Percussion

Disc 1
1. Been All Around This World
2. Big Boss Man
3. Jam (Stormy Monday Theme)
4. Slow Blues
5. Jam
6. Jam

10-21-1970 The Matrix
Jerry Garcia, John Cipollina, David Freiberg, Papa John Creach, Jack Casady, Jorma Kaukonen, Nicky Hopkins.
Disc 1
1. Jam
2. Jam
3. Jam
4. Jam

12-15-1970 The Matrix Crosby,Garcia,Lesh and Hart
David and the Dorks
Disc 1 The Show
1. Drop Down Mama
2. Cowboy Movie
3. Triad
4. The Wall Song
5. Bertha
6. Deep Elem Blues
7. Motherless Children
8. Laughing

Disc 2 The Rehersal
1. Alabama Bound section
2. Eight Miles High
3. Tuning and Talking
4. Cowboy Movie section
5. The Wall Song section
6. Bertha section
7. Bird Song section

Jerrys vocals are low on these tapes, but Crosby does most of the singing anyway.


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GADEADHEAD's picture
Joined: Jun 5 2007
On its way to JackStrawfromColorado today

I mailed this one out this afternoon.

From the Appalachians > The Rockies.

GADEADHEAD's picture
Joined: Jun 5 2007
Sorry for the delay

I got this one at the start of the week and I had hoped to have it out this week, but one thing lead to another and I'm not finished yet. Cub Scout camping trip this weekend, so I'll mail it to JackStrawfromColorado the middle of next week.

Peace -


Joined: Jul 29 2008
.cda and wav are the same, I think.

*.cda was the original CD file suffix from back in the day. *.wav are equivalent. MP3 is way more lossy, but smaller files. There may be a little file header difference between .cda and .wav but the encoding is the same - I think the difference comes up in the disc format structure, whether its a data disc or an audio disc.

Perro had both the DVD with the flac files and CDs with already decoded wav files of the DVD files. Maybe the player is looking at those .wav files as .cda files since the discs were created as audio CDs and not just data CDs with wav files on them. To summarize:

*.wav files on an audio CD = *.cda files

Perhaps one of the real gurus can school us, though. Bring it up in the tech discussions forum.

*The white zone is for loading and unloading only*

Lopezz's picture
Joined: Feb 9 2008

As far as I know the audio cds I sent were in wav format. I wonder if they are the originals?

GADEADHEAD's picture
Joined: Jun 5 2007
I got this one today

One question I have ...............

Typically, I convert my flacs to wav and then burn disks so I can play them in any player. This vine includes individual cd's in .cda format as well as a data DVD with all the flacs.

My plan is to convert flacs like usual.

My question is this. What is the .cda format? Is that comparable to MP3? Is it lossless? Is it compatable in most players?

Ok, Ok, I realize that is more than one question but I would really appreciate any answers you can provide.

Peace -


ejjd's picture
Joined: Aug 20 2007
will mail 3-11-09

Off to gadeadhead tomorrow.

Ursa Minor's picture
Joined: Jul 19 2007
mailed to ejjd on 03-05-2009

these were mailed to the next person after me , Ursa Minor on thursday , march 5th, 2009


"the warm wet world of analog audio"

Day Glo Louisville's picture
Joined: Mar 4 2008
o yeah

Louisville tis the place to be, ready to return for the derby days!

Joined: Mar 12 2008

On the way to Ursa, KY.

November and more as I wait for the score.
They're tellin' me forgivness is the key to every door.

Day Glo Louisville's picture
Joined: Mar 4 2008
Thanks Lopezz, been looking for this for some time!

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9. stuman
10. Jimmy C.
11. Ursa Minor (
12, ejjd
13. gadeadhead
14. JackstrawfromColorado
15. Day Glo Louisville

"I like coconuts you can break them open, they smell like ladies, lying in the sun"


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