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ratdog phil and friends darkstar orchestra

I still go to all the above shows...some of the venues ratdog has played are so small..they are classic performances and the magic is there..i miss Karin on giutar and hope he is healing...but i have always enjoyed Kimock!!! ,the thing about ratdog is the chemestry as they have been playing together so long..phil and friends change members to often...and are good shows but not as good as ratdogs....i would like to see all members of the dead out with the guitarist from darkstar orchestra,, i also would like to see the dead or ratdog team up with paul kanter jefferson airplane starship with slick agular on guitar as a opener!! just saw them and they are great....the current lineup of phil and friends i just saw and they were better than when they had joan with them ,,, no more joan plez ...In my opinion the guitarist from darkstar orchestra deserves a tour with phil as he changes his lineup so often why not give him a shot....he is really great ..............NO ONE CAN REPLACE JERRY..but the music has a life of its own!!!

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Hey raindep the DSO guy

Is John Kadlecik and I agree his voice is sweet as can be :) A gathing like that would be grate!

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PERFECT LINE UP-DSO LEAD GUITARIST

...the real issue in the post-Jerry era has to do with the use of a guitarist to replace jerry, period...it seems as if Phil runs from the idea that a "jerry-sounding" guy, by himself, is suitable for his creative desires. Phil and Friends has, in the past, included great Garcia sounding, chiming and chirping guitarists, we all know them. But the mix was muddled by his concurrent inclusion of other players who just didn't get it, though they loved the music, knew the music, and could play the shit out of the guitar...warren, scoffield, jimmy herring, larry campbell,come to mind...great players, but they didn't sound right. Derek Trucks, great player, didn't sound right.

The best idea would be to have all living members gather again, and HAVE THE GUY FROM DSO play with them. He captures the spirit of Jerry wonderfully, he is not trying to re-invent the wheel, but simply does his job miraculously. I think the existing band members are almost afraid, creeped out, or voodoo-ed or something, and stay away from this as a possibility. This guy has devoted his musical life to re-creating Garcia. Is there anything wrong or 'uncreative' about studying the masters? If a guy sounded just like Coltrane, would you shun him in a band that featured the music and spirit of Coltrane? The existing members of the Dead are never, ever going to create a new paradigm, a new music, a new form of improvising, a new level of group dynamic spontaneity, inasmuch as Phil wishes this were true. The best thing to do would be to admit that Garcia's sound, Garcia's imrovisational spirit, his tone, his gentle but unwavering leadership musically, is what bound the entire bunch of them together, until its unraveling, a result of many things, including Garcia's failing battles.
They should just wave the white flag, and give in to the best and only solution...gather as a band with the DSO guitarist at the shakey helm!

peace

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2004

So There Not Floating Around On The Net Anywhere?

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2003 Show

I'd love to get the show in Atlanta. Had an excellent time. Can't remember the exact date.
The weather was perfect and the music was groovy!

I second Hal R, come on Rhino

PEACE

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2004 shows

You used to be able to order them from the same folks that sell Ratdog CDs or downloads but they stopped selling them. These and the 2003 shows should be made available to us. How about it Rhino?

If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite.
Wiliam Blake

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Warren Haynes

I'm New Here So I Don't Know If This Is The Right Place But I Figured Since It Was Post Jerry Dead It Would Be Does Anyone Know Where I Can Get Any Of The 2004 Shows With Warren Haynes? I Would Greatly Appreciate It

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PL&F '99 Part 2

Yes! Here it is...one long sweet set and oh so very, very hot!

Worcester, MA 11-14-99
Centrum Coliseum

Phil Lesh, John Molo
Warren Haynes (guitar), Derek Trucks (guitar)
& Rob Barraco (keys)

Phil's Set (1:40)
Jam>
Darkstar (1st verse)>
Sugaree>
Jam>
Cosmic Charlie>
Jam>
Darkstar (2nd verse)>
Jam>
St. Stephen>
The Eleven (instrumental)>
Not Fade Away

BIG thanks to Larry & Josh "The Kid" Feldman
for calling during the St. Stephen & after.

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PL&F '99

This was my first post show and it was a great one. PL&F were the opener for Bob Dylan in Worcester MA. It was pouring outside. Soaked in 10 seconds pouring! We were a half-step late driving thru the rain unfortunately but it was a treat...Trucks and Haynes on guitar and they were lighting it up. Sure it had a different feel but they managed to get out there...way out there. I am still looking for that show...any help would be appreciated. Since it was a double bill, there was only one set...the good news is Bob Dylan came out after and offered out a mesmerizer himself. I've been told that on this tour, Phil would sometimes come back for an encore of Alabama Getaway and maybe another tune or two but we must have been out of time on that particular evening. Still, an unforgettable night and thanks again for everything under the sun!*!
~Marshun~

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"The Dead" to tour?

I am in my sixties now and I really hope that I get to see the Dead at least one more time. I recently saw Ratdog opening for the Allman Brothers in Camden, and it was "Jerry-Like" when Derek Trucks came out and played with Ratdog. Weir was a little offspeed when he came out and did Franklin's Tower with the Allmans, but it still gave you goose bumps. I'd travel across several states if I had to, to see a Dead show with Haynes, Herring and Barraco as part of the mix. Has anyone heard any word about the possibility of one more tour as "The Dead"?

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