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pomo's right...

Civil and Criminal are def two separate judgements and are not in any way subject to "Double Jeopardy".....

"In a bed, in a bed, by the waterside I will lay my head.
Listen to the river sing sweet songs, to rock my soul."

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I am not a california lawyer

but, I believe settling a "civil" matter with the municipality for the acts of its employees, does not preclude a criminal charge against the individuals committing the crime.

Admittedly, the settlement will make it more unlikely that the DA will go after the rogue cops at this stage. However, if you feel the need or desire to contact the press and the DA, you should do so.

Peace,

"One watch by night, one watch by day
If you get confused, listen to the music play"

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good idear.

good idear, man.

cool, send it off, maybe it will get some replay in the news and more folks can become aware of that tragedy.

peace.

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I sent it

To the DA with the following added sentence:

"I realise this case was settled in 1994, but I was not there to speak to what I saw."

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So

So that's it then. Well, I'm gonna send that email to the DA and the papers. They can read it, choke on it, ignore it, whatever.

Thanks brothers and sisters. I don't feel better, but I feel less alone, which I guess is better.

Peace, Ev

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no need

and, no need to feel like you SHOULD have spoken up sooner...

the fact that you were williing to get involved NOW is highly respectable.

peace.

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settled

settled, means they will not, (the DA) probably can not do anything else.

the important thing man, you were willing to do something now.

the important thing, man, you WANTED to set this right.

there is no proper 'amount of money' that can ever replace a lost / murdered child... but those families agreed to it, so that is that.

peace.

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They settled

Settlement OKd in Student's Death - Law: Inglewood will pay $750,000 to resolve suit by Fountain Valley family. Patrick Shanahan died of injuries suffered as he struggled with police after concert.
California | Local | ERIC MALNIC | February 3, 1994
The Inglewood City Council has agreed to pay $750,000 to settle a lawsuit by the Orange County family of a 19-year-old college student who died from neck injuries suffered as he struggled with police after a Grateful Dead concert at the Forum in December, 1989. Inglewood police said they used a carotid artery chokehold--a controversial form of forceful restraint banned by many law enforcement agencies because of concerns about serious injury--to control Patrick Shanahan after he resisted attempts to arrest him.

So is there a point in pressing this further? I mean, can they try the case twice? Now I REALLY feel like hell for not speaking out sooner.

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notarized

(Indeed, I'm trying to think how you can make this letter a sworn affidavit.)

don't know about that unless you go to the DA in person, like if they request it, but you can get the letter notarized, meaing you signed it and wrote it.

the letter is good. thanks, man.

please keep us informed. keep in mind, this is 20 years old, it will take a bit to get them to move on it. hopefully someone will take action. seems from that NY times story, they had some witnesses, but don't know if the family ever tried to get this into civil court or not...

peace.

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ev

I'm all out of advice pretty much and don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think you're doing an important and righteous thing. I wish I knew the local LA media better.

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