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    Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.

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    Guss West
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    Thank you
    You all have my word that the vines I am sent will be carefully tended until they are ready to be passed along. Love and Gratitude to those who invest in endlessly seeding. The Music Never Stops!
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    Wow....
    Haven't been around here for a while... but things are different huh?? JackstrawfromColorado.... let me know what shows you need.... I have them all pretty much covered. Sorry to see there has been some toxins in the Vineyard.... doesn't take much to kill 'em off.... Hope everyone is otherwise well. -Raymond.
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    Mark
    I think I have your email pretty sure you have mine next time you are up this way..... take care amigo!
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    Thanks oroboros!!
    Thanks for backing me up and thank you too Jake. People are funneling vines to carolina boy I see and all I can say is "whatever". I tried being the vine cop but it was a grueling, thankless job and I spent way too much time and resources re-seeding vines and doing the follow ups with folks. No one could do what markinthedark did, and I suspect much like me he got way too burned out. I love a lot of you out there but the people with total disregard I cannot deal with anymore. I am signed up for the two 83 vines and I hope someone who has my email address could email me when they are coming my way I would be very grateful. Then I am officially out of here. The 72 europe bullshit and now the new site are making me crazy too so again, take care everyone I love you I loved trading with y'all but it is really time for me to say fare thee well. If you have my email drop me a letter and I'd love to trade that way with you but I am done here. Mark
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    Hey guys,
    I just bumped all of Fall 72 and the entire 73 vines. Lot of stuff is lost over the pond unfortnately and lost in the server change-over.
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    As one of the original group that started vining here
    'back in the day' I can agree that I have watched while several individuals took and took and ended up being 'vine killers'. They showed up, got on the list to receive the vine and then never sent them onto those next on the list. While I have not been as active, of late I will agree with my brothers comments that it is difficult to keep the vineyard producing when some just take and take. I wish I had an answer. For a while we were attentive and kept track and then ericat and then Markinthedark helped us attend to keeping the vineyard going. But if we don't identify those that are toxic to the cause don't be surprised when so many vines die. I don't think that Jake R and JackstrawfromCo would be expressing these concerns if carolina boy didn't have a history. Has he reseeded the vines that disappeared when sent to him ? A show of good faith? I can't be the 'vine cop' and I have watched as that role has unfortunately burnt out several of my brothers in the Vineyard. And they are gone. FYI- I have reseeded many CDs to get vines back on track here, both with the vines I started and ones that were seeded by others. Saying that isn't to expect praise but to offer that I have invested in the Vineyard, and have been given back far more than I have put into this wonderful space. The Wheel does go round.. I will say to those on the vineyard that our history is right here to view. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me. Teachers open the door, but you must enter by yourself.
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    My sentiments exactly
    Mark, I completely agree with u. Idk if he thinks enough time has passed and we forgot but I certainly have not. I wholeheartedly encourage a banishment of him from any vines he is on. I too do not speak ill of anyone; this has always been a great community. But if any vines he is on gets sent to him and not passed along I too will be done with this place.
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    you guys I know I don't come around here much anymore but the vineyard will always be a place I will cherish, for the music and the people who formed this community. I am probably coming across like a big ol jerk here but I don't care because this guy here .. carolina boy ... single handily took the vineyard down. a bunch of us went to a lot of work to reseed all the vines he STOLE from here. I'm getting emotional right now because I must sound like an asshole but I don't care ... i just hope someone from the old days who remembers backs me up... please do not trade with him ... I mean actually do whatever you want but I know what he did to the vineyard and I am letting you all know
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    To Jake for reseeding all the missing '67, '68 and '69 vines.You be the MAN Jake! Yeah,just like a kid turned loose in a freakin' candy store I am. Thanks again.
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    sorry for the double post
    the first left out the links.
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Got ideas for how things should be run differently in the Vineyard? Improvements? Suggestions? Brainstorms? Truckloads of fertilizer? Post here.,On the floor at MSG... one perfect song after another...and we were beyond elated with disbelief and gratitude. This was truely a fantasy set list and, in my opinion, the best of my 8 show run.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 02/09/2011 - 11:31

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Hey t140v77, Man if you want to make an additional copy that would go over seas that would be the best option in my opinion. I think we have done it both ways but a separate copy would cut the chances of it getting lost coming back over the pond greatly! Just my opinion. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 02/09/2011 - 11:32

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Have fun man!! I get my Furthur fun 3 days this weekend!! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by PonchoBill on Wed, 02/09/2011 - 16:38

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I did alot of burning and labeling envelopesand stuff in the last couple of days. Every vine I have except for FWGV#4 (which isn't taken) will be at the post office in a few minutes. I hope I didn't fuck up anything. Peace
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Submitted by dstache on Wed, 02/09/2011 - 18:52

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I will post it this weekend. It will include 6 shows from 1990 (10/27, 10/30, 10/31, 12/3, 12/4 and 1 other) plus 2 from '95 (that were on my list of Compendium picks posted here a while back) to fill up the second disc. I'm listening to a hot Help > Slip > Franklin's to open 10/31 as I type this. I'll start working on reseeding the 77 Part 4 vine once I am done with this. On an unrelated note, if anyone here subscribes to Hotfile and has some time to download a couple of shows (Rush and Rolling stones '81) let me know. I've gotten monthly passes in the past for both Hotfile and Rapidshare but lately I've both been too busy and haven't found much on the blogs I go to to find shows from other artists. Thanks!
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Submitted by pomo1 on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 07:14

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Have a great time this weekend and give us a report. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by maustin on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 08:18

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that I'm holding up a few vines, but I'm experiencing some technical difficulties, both personally and with equipment. I will get them moving as soon as I resolve the issues at hand. Please don't worry, I will have them moving again soon.
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Submitted by maustin on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 08:20

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just pm me to see if I can accomodate the vines, or if I should be moved down a space or two, just so there isn't so I'm not so back-logged.
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 08:46

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Take your time man ... hope all is well "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by pomo1 on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 11:16

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Hey, take your time sorting everything out. There are good souls in here and don't feel any pressure from the vineyard. Good luck with your issues. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by Jake R on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 12:29

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maustin the music will always be here so be there to take care of what u need to. hope all goes well
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Submitted by JBH69Flyer on Thu, 02/10/2011 - 22:55

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All, Just in case you are interested, the GD is e-mailing people that have a reservation for the "music only" Euro 72 package. The e-mail has a code to be used to upgrade to a "Big Box". Apparently some orders are being cancelled. It looks like alot of people (including myself) booked multiple orders because of the problems early in the ordering process. Best Wishes-Jimmy
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Submitted by pomo1 on Fri, 02/11/2011 - 07:14

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That is all I have to say to Rhino and the Dead store. "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by maustin on Fri, 02/11/2011 - 10:37

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in my part of the universe. Technical difficulties overcome and just a scare on the personal side. Turnin and burnin, got a stack ready to go. Now it's off to the ice for some sturgeon spearing come Saturday.
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Submitted by pomo1 on Fri, 02/11/2011 - 11:51

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Glad to hear it! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:06

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I had an issue that took me out last fall and I am now back. I have VINES! ARRAHHH I am so sorry.......I have not been around. I have: Re-seed April 71 77 lossless part 1 (sorry Derek you worked so hard) TNHG Vine Lampinsky's Aud's I will do the work and get these out this week. Please forgive. "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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Submitted by Birdsong1969NJ on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:23

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JGB 3-6-76 "And I love the life I live And I'm gonna live the life I love"
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Submitted by dstache on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 08:46

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Nice to have you back and hope you are healthy again!
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Submitted by Jake R on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 11:14

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birdsong. Glad to hear ur doing better.
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Submitted by marye on Sat, 02/12/2011 - 12:46

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so good to have you back!
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Submitted by pomo1 on Sun, 02/13/2011 - 13:50

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From one Vineyard old-timer to another: WELCOME BACK!! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by Canyon Critter on Mon, 02/14/2011 - 14:30

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Wow, thanks for the kind vibes what a rough two months. Now if there is any vines, I've missed, been involved in or can reseed that people are looking for can you please tell me and I can finally get it all done? Thanks, Love you family ♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥~♥ Twirly Banner
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sat, 02/19/2011 - 09:30

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Vine loving freaks (and I mean that in a good way), Following dstache's 'Compendium Picks' for the 1990's, I will be starting what looks to be 2 vines for 1992, about 5 DVD's total. Some notes: 1)From the Compendium 1992 list, regretfully, I only have a couple of the March shows and I don't have 12/5 which really bums me out because those Tempe shows were always quite good, and that show in particular brings back a lot of crazy memories for me =) 2)The 5/21 show is included in Cal Expo '92 Vine which is still alive so I won't include it here 3)The 6/25 show is included on New 1990's Part 6 Vine but that one may be in trouble so we'll wait and see on that one 4)Other than that, I have everything else from the list including the amazing Las Vegas May run. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by t140v77 on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 17:04

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Hey there,I have a few (4?) vines that I may have been holding on longer than I should.... I don't like to keep them more than a few days. I filled up my little hard drive with the few vines that I had already copied. I tried to delete out the junk I don't need but it didn't really help much. I just got back from my local Fry's and shoved a 1TB drive in the desktop....that should let me copy a couple more vines. I will be stopping by the post office tomorrow and will be updating the appropriate vines. I really don't know how you serious and long time viners store all the great music out there...thank goodness that storage is getting cheaper. Mike
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Mon, 02/21/2011 - 17:20

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Will hold a lot of vines my friend. Yeah I use ext HDs. I can get a 500GB Toshiba for about $50 at the local Sam's Club. I think that is a very reasonable price to pay to store 500-some shows, assuming 1 show is about 1GB in flac/shn format. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by JBH69Flyer on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 07:32

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Just an FYI, I saw that Target was running 1-TB and 2-TB external HD's for $85 each. Probably USB 2. Not bad for a 2-TB. This week only (February 20 thru 26) While supplies last! Best Wishes-Jimmy
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 09:29

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B-> KB->MB->GB->TB->? My first computer was a commondore Vic 20 with 3K of ram--a step down from the 64. Got it in 1983.
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Submitted by pomo1 on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 09:45

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i remember buying my first PC and the big decision was whether to buy a 386 or a 486 and whether to get 2 MB or really splurge and go with 4mb of RAM! "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own."
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Submitted by Hal R on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 15:08

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I am back with it and want to send out the vines I have held up. pmail me please, I want to get things moving that were stuck with me. Thanks for your patience. I lost everyone's address in a computer crash so send them on to me. I am gone till Sunday but at that time will be putting a massive effort into mailing out vines. If the doors of perception were cleansed, everything would appear to man as it is, infinite. William Blake
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 02/23/2011 - 16:22

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Nice to see you, hope all is well with you and your family. Many of the vines vines may have been re-seeded, there has been a pretty large effort for that over the last few months. So we'll probably just play it by ear. Take care man! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Mon, 02/28/2011 - 09:44

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This show (Fort Worth, TX) was vined with the Mixed Bag I think. Now I think I have listened to as many shows as the average viner here. Now let me tell you something. I have heard quite a few "other ones," but this "one" is totally and completely addictive. The mix is great. But there is something about the heavy sounding drums & bass and guitar. I have been listening to this (Set 2) non-stop for several weeks since I got it. I just can't put it down. The 'Me and My Uncle" fits perfectly in between. On a scale, this is the #1 "truckin'/other one" combo so far that I have heard. It's rare for me to react to a show like this. Crazy man! Set 2 truckin->drums->other one->me and my uncle->other one->wharf rat
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Submitted by Jake R on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 12:23

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that I am really excited how well the vineyard is doing. I haven't seen it like this in some time. So I just wanna say thanks to all the old timers for reseeding a lot of this music and all the new guys for keeping it moving. There is quite a lot of vines here so I wanna say thanks to cosmicbadger for the vindex to keep track of all of this. It definitely makes it easier.
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Submitted by Exploratory Da… on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 13:31

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Thanks Jake. ....listening to 11/14/71 Set 2 again today. I think I have it figured out. The Other One here conveys a "sense of urgency" not found in other versions I have heard. I find myself batting my head with Phil's bass line as if I am on some one-way mission to save the world. The sense of urgency here is overwhelming and a hair stand up on your back kinda thing....
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 17:13

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I'm gonna have to check it out! =) =) Jake - I'm with you, it's very awesome to have the vineyard in full throttle once again. I feel like we have a very strong tight-knit group here these days. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by zepthompson on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 21:20

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earlier todayhe seems to be doing pretty good staying away from the computer for the most part, at least limiting how long he is in front of it... I assured him we're more concern about him than any vines but none the less will do his best to move them along real soon. so, hang in there Dave!
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Submitted by Jake R on Wed, 03/02/2011 - 21:40

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to hear about dave zep. thanks for the update. perhaps we should send him his own copy for some of the vines he is one
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Thu, 03/03/2011 - 05:38

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"It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by dstache on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 13:48

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I have received 4 DVD's of '91 shows from RMB and will post a Part 1 vine within the next week or so. Thanks RMB!!!
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 15:40

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I better get 92 part 2 up! Been slacking.. "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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"It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"
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Submitted by Jake R on Sun, 03/13/2011 - 19:12

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derek and mark for keeping this vineyard going and brining in the new shows. This place wouldn't be the same wirthout ur effort.
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Submitted by noonie on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 17:48

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I have stalled out a few vines here..i was busy moving then the whole family was sick my wife and i had sinus infections my daughter and son had ear infections....feeling better now back to work i will have all vines out by thursday. sorry
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Submitted by zepthompson on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 18:41

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just a hiccupdamn flu bugs... Hope you like the new place and hope everyone feels better real quick!!! I'm headed out of town later this week (Thursday) - I'll have access for the most part may knock myself down the list on a couple vines... or have them sent to my daughter's where I'll be staying for most of the rest of the month (I've tried to not sign up for too many more the last couple weeks) :D
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Submitted by Jake R on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 18:49

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noonie. thanks for the update. best wishes to everyones recovery and the new place
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Submitted by JackstrawfromC… on Mon, 03/14/2011 - 19:00

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Our house has been down with head and chest colds the last couple of weeks. Missing work, missing school ... Hang in there brother! "It's got no signs or dividing line and very few rules to guide"