I like it...And let me just say Izz, that you and Marye are KICK ASS and are doing a great job.....Us cats from the old dead.net are just stuck in our ways and this new site will take some getting used to.....I think that the GOOD things on this site outweigh the bad by far....
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Greyfolded, I hear you - I really do. It is not within the current capacity of our open-source software to do that. It's as simple as that - even if we wanted to (and it seems like a fine idea to me!) we don't have to software tools to do it. I'm sorry. We're not actively trying to stymie anyone's creativity or freedoms here.
How about a topic that is topic-less? Just a space to post whatver you want and talk about whatever comes to mind. Would that help?
Why not just have ONE special section where members who want or like to create topics can??? Im not saying make the whole site like that, just one section....Then those who like Free-Form topics can go there and those who don't can stay with the pre-made sections...We just want choices, thats all....And it sound's fair to have 1 section to create things and 20+ other sections that are preset topics.......
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MaryE and izzie aren't cops, or sheriffs, or den mothers or Evil Overlords of the Vast Conspiracy Against Free Speakin' Hippies. I promise.
We've been asked to help create a site that works for a wide swath of folks from different areas on the Net. There are people here who don't want users creating topics, and there are clearly a vocal group who do. As hard as is it on some folks, we're hearing from others who like it this way and would be less interested in staying if it went wooly with free-for-all topics.
We're trying to 'split the baby' here by doing what we (and the other admin types as we're not in this alone) think will work best. Your patience and understanding are appreciated!
And seriously - you want particular topics? So ask! (I would say, So tell! but that sounds like we'e automatically going to do anything you request, and you know that just can't be.)
Great to see ya over here on the new board!!!!!!!! I loved your posts on the old one and your insight helped a young Head a lot......THANK YOU!!!
I like the idea of having a special section where we can create topics like you said..Then people can pick and choose how they want to surf the board....I agree that a lot of posts on the old board got buried by the Rabbit's antics (Remember "Post a Pic of Yourself", it turned into a nightmare) but we seemed to be able to right the ship most of the time....
Im just happy to see all the people like you CC that made the old board so much fun are here!!
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Many insights in your post, and if I answered in detail we'd be here all day with not that much new information.
One of the things we're currently banging our heads against is that there seems to be little or no capability to have different rules (like topic starting, posts having to go through moderation, etc.) in different sections. What we're doing right now very much reflects those constraints.
And let's just say the ignore function (or, as it's called on the Well, the bozofilter) is very high on our feature request issue. For whatever reason, some people don't want to have to cross paths with some other people but are perfectly happy with the place otherwise (or so we've found, over and over), and the ignore tool is the perfect way to handle it. (The "neener neener I've got you on Ignore!" syndrome, not so much.)
I think the site is faboo and will just get better and better. Everybody should just relax. It's been only, what......less than a week? Give the kind and hard working folks here a chance to get things flowing.
I'm a happy camper!
..even a blind man knows when the sun is shinin'...you can feel it!..
"Why can't we come to an agreement of some sort Lizz and Marye....How bout you limit everyone to a set amount of Topics each week (Say one or two)...Then we still get to post a Topic of our choice but wont bog down the forum with tons of stuff....
I don't think it's very hip to let you 2 pick all the topic's we submit to you......"
dude, first, HEY NOW! how's life?? I don't know if I've said hey now since we've been here...
I think marye and izzie have made it pretty clear that the choice of topic thing may or may not be forever... as it is taking time to get the bugs out of this system and so on.
so I do not think it is a hip or unhip issue. ( -;
concerning the long term future, and computer software reality as well as personal choice, there would probably be no way to 'limit' topics to one or 2 per week. no way that would work in real life, sometimes the creativity would flow, sometimes not.
I am a computer dummy, but if it were possible to have an area that anyone can post topics in, and others that everyone can not it would be the common sense compromise.
clearly, some folks will always think there are too many topics now. and others will think there are not enough.
for the short term solution, and trying to compromise here, please look in the topic suggestion thread at the bottom of the main screen. I suggested a few new topics, and then, better yet, having people be able to create topics in one section of the forum. so, in the end, my suggestion is a few new sections of the board where people could post their own topics.
IF both types of things are possible at the same time, and that is a big IF, in this way, people could choose their own approach to the board, and decide if they prefer the wild west or a more structured setting.
again, I would like to remind everyone, this might take a bit of time. so, please keep patient, and please do not jump ship. we went from Pirates on the Ship of Fools, to suddenly having a few captains around. no call for any mutiny. no reason not to let us drift around for a few more days, or a couple of weeks even... and see where we end up.
these computer thangs are fucking complicated animals... I would like to be able to create new topics, I would like to continue the lighthearted banter, but at the same time I see the benefit of having some structured organization so it is easy to find stuff or keep things on track. people may have written or posted up some links in the past (old dead.net board) about some festival or something, then they got burried under the rabbit droppings or lost in the shuffle.
so, while I would love to have the ability to quote, I guess this system just does not have that feature, or it will take a bit of time to up-grade the system to include that.
finally, I think marye and izzie will need to think long and hard about how hard they might 'police' the board. which in effect means how hard do they want to work at this site once it is up and running?? if someone posts stuff which is way off topic, what will they do? move it? delete it? the other issue would be if some trolls or other assholes start posting total junk and total bullshit. what will be done? even when the sherrif wasn't in town, we, the members of the community were pretty much able to police ourselves. certainly, we all learned how to click the 'ignore' function to avoid seeing total crap.
so, yeah, by the way, is there an ignore function? meaning we do not have to read certain people's posts ever?
I think I want to ignore myself. ( -;
but I hope all of you good people will tolorate my rambles.
deep down I am old school, and I have the scene's/communities' best interests at heart.
bottom line, please give this a bit more time. pretty please with sugar on top?
"The highway is for gamblers, you'd better use your sense
Take what you have gathered from coincidence"
All the old site members will tell you that it was the Wild West over there with no Sheriff in sight...We had some good times but remember that a TON of bad posts (circa a screwy Rabbit) were started and some stuff got way off topic.....Why can't we come to an agreement of some sort Lizz and Marye....How bout you limit everyone to a set amount of Topics each week (Say one or two)...Then we still get to post a Topic of our choice but wont bog down the forum with tons of stuff....
I don't think it's very hip to let you 2 pick all the topic's we submit to you......
And yes, bring back QUOTES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It makes it easier to discuss things......
AND SOEHARTO DON"T LEAVE!!!!!!!! Your insight is key here.....
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