Dave's Picks Volume 18: Orpheum Theatre, San Francisco, CA 7/17/76 - SOLD OUT
Tell the folks back home this is the promised land callin'
We’re not only headed back to the Bay Area with the release of July 17, 1976, the 5th of a phenomenal six-night run at the Orpheum Theatre, but back to the basics - smaller venues, lighter loads (post-Wall of Sound) - and the results are electric! While the operations may have been stripped down, the Grateful Dead and their music were anything but. 7/17/76 packs plenty of surprises from the Chuck Berry bookends of the first set to the double encore featuring one the finest versions of “Not Fade Away” you’re likely to hear, clocking in at almost 15 minutes. The hour-plus seamless second set jam includes a dream setlist, featuring such classics as "Comes A Time," "Eyes Of The World," "Goin' Down The Road Feeling Bad," and a recurring "Other One" that takes us on some spectacular journeys. The venue's superior acoustics coupled with the band's tight intuitive playing lend to a warmer sound and plenty of golden moments. A short one, we've rounded Dave's Picks Volume 18 out with a handful of favorites from the previous night's first set, including a magical coupling of "The Music Never Stopped>Scarlet Begonias".
As always, Dave's Picks Volume 18 has been mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman and is limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies. Grab your copy here.
3 Disc set
Limited to 16,500 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: May 1, 2016
Indeed there is! I won't go near the XX thread without donning full MOPP gear (from Brooks Brothers' Comfortable Modern Combat line, of course...)
There's a biohazard protocol?
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Hey gus - I, too, am spinning these and the sound is really quite something. Yesterday's high light for me was the Wheel. Eager to hear today's offering as well. Will also listen to 7/18, 8/02 and 8/04 with the latter being one of earliest acquired tapes. I like it!
Spinning DaP18 today and tomorrow in honor of the 40th anniversary of these shows. Pure audio bliss.
Playin' Sandwich for supper, anyone?
So Grateful for everyone who had a hand in bringing this music to me.
Live in the moment. Love one another.
Ya'll at Fenway, give KG a big hug and a spleef from me, please.
You figure the date is announced so close to release because that's when Dave makes the decision? You really think Norman and the pressing plant do their collective magic in only 19 days?
This must come from YOUR years of experience in the industry...
Seth, as a fellow Vault-Master and Archivist, as well as engineer, knows when your CDS should be ready. He knows you're holding out just to tease people! The game is up!
On a serious (and not paranoid) note, after 19 releases, the pattern should be clear. If you ONLY want post-1978 recordings it is not wise to subscribe to the series ahead of time. Sign up for the newsletter and/or check this site daily during the middle two weeks of January, April, July, and October. If you're exclusively a fan of the Pigpen/Keith years OR if you are a fan of their entire career, it makes sense to subscribe.
It's not "holding a football" trickery. Rather, continuing to subscribe and expect only (or even intermittent) 80s-90s releases is a case of doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result, AKA insanity. It's on the subscriber, not Dave/Rhino. Fortunately, the vast majority here continue to appreciate these killer picks.
"As long as we keep getting releases that meet the criteria set by DL and Rhino then I see no reason to complain. To express what period one would like to see a release from is also fine. To suggest that one knows that Dave won't release an '80s show or to complain about what one thinks he might release next is frankly rather sad and pitiful."
That is "70s privilege" talk.
What I think is pitiful is someone spending $100/yr in hopes of getting some post80 shows and NOT GETTING ANY.
What people who have all the 70s shows they want but really want 89s shows should be doing is spending that $100 on a big Hard Drive and filling it with all the great-sounding 80s sdbds that REALLY DO EXIST from torrent sites in pristine lossless sound. DON'T SUPPORT THE DAP SERIES IF YOU DON'T WANT MORE 70s SHOWS.
I will support the series because I still have an appetite for 69, 70, 71, 76, but I know the series has no intention of saying my 80s hunger and I resent that very much.
I also resent the last-minute reveals of each year's 8/1 and 11/1 volumes: totally the Lucy holds Charlie Brown's football routine. By 7/13 the 8/1 release should be almost ready to mail. Keeping this info secret just feeds the false 80s hopes. It may be fun for people not feverishly hoping for 80s releases, but it is pure cruelty to people who are.
The 7/12/76 Miller aud is quite something, ya? Wonderful room acoustics-wise - it actually has a touch of matrix to it. The pitch is dead-solid-perfect, too.
Maybe it was the Unknown Comic? Def not Miles. Maybe Phil picked up the horn again for a laugh? To be honest it doesn't really add much to the mix. Sounding a bit flat to these ears, tbh.
Looking forward to GL7 now.
If GarciaLive Vol 7 is anywhere NEAR the incredible sound that Vol 6 contained...WOW.. Vol 6 is just a Gem!
Can anyone name the Horns player in the 2nd set of GL Vol 6? Liner Notes couldn't... Could it possibly be Miles Davis? or is that too far fetched...
As for DaP 19... Yahooooo ! Very excited for a Bear mix from'70 !
Cant go wrong with this era... plus, we've got PLENTY more time for DaP to release more Betty Boards especially with the Garcia family pumping out Vol 6 + Vol 7
Just my .02
It's a rare Bear Board. Just got the DaP19 announcement email. Laughed at the original typo. The prankster element is still alive and well in thee land of the Dead.
it looks like RV3 was close! Not a Betty Board, but a under-circulated 1970 show! I look forward to him proving you right and singing the praises of these two AMAZING concerts.
I can't find any info on this!
2 shows from the same year hasn't been done (67?68?)... although, because of DaP 6, it doesn't seem wildly different enough to warrant the 'something we've never done before' claim. Setlists might also be pretty similar/lots of overlap for 1 release...Who knows what they have up their sleeve though
If its November 8, 1976 then it must be Garcia, John Kahn, Ron Tutt and Keith & Donna Godchaux. Whoopee!
I saw it on a one sheet provided to record stores. I can tell you what it says.... 'A new discovery in the vaults, this previously uncirculated gem features classic mid-70's Jerry Garcia Band treats such as 'Ride Mighty High' and 'Mission In the Rain'. Available everywhere August 19. Hss a picture of the Bean on the cover Red/Gray color scheme. That's all I got...sorry.
Is there a link for the new Garcia?
Anyone see the upcoming Garcia release in August?! November 8, 1976 Sofie's Palo Alto, recently discovered in the Garcia vault. Surprised that its being released so close to the Lion's Share show, but who cares?! I saw a promo sheet for the release at a record shop.
I've been away from the boards for a bit but I am chomping at the bit for some of the DaP release ideas being discussed here. I for one would love some unreleased Primal 68-70 but would not be upset with 3/9/81 at all:) I have the feeling we are going to be seeing 7/18/76 sooner than later though.
Hope you all have a great day. I will be sipping coffee at work and waiting patiently to see Dylan live this evening!
As long as we keep getting releases that meet the criteria set by DL and Rhino then I see no reason to complain. To express what period one would like to see a release from is also fine. To suggest that one knows that Dave won't release an '80s show or to complain about what one thinks he might release next is frankly rather sad and pitiful.
Did anyone else notice that GarciaLive Volume 6 - Lion's Share is the first GarciaLive release that is not mastered to HDCD? I hope this is a one off rather than the beginning of a trend.
"all this (talk of 80s Dead music) doesn't really matter, my guess is Dap#19 is from an unreleased Betty Board(s) return of 1970 shows"
DOES NOT EQUAL
"A "Deadhead" using an unreleased 1970 soundboard as an example of what he would NOT want to see as a DaP."
He doesn't say he doesn't want 1970, just that it is what he expects. And he expects it because it has been the dependable expectation for the DaP series. I don't actually read him saying that this strikes him as ho-hum, but I believe he feels that way.
What he IS saying clearly is that he'd be more excited to be getting a Shakedown or other post '78-only song than ANOTHER songlist from the 69-78 period.
I am NOT a neutral observer/interpreter here. I "favor" RV3.
My stance on the DaP series: I would love a '70 release or 6/10/73 (or 5/26/73! or 8/1/73!) or 7/18/76 or some short '68 shows grouped together or many other pre-80 shows (no '74 or '77 for a while dammit!), but what would really get me excited would be 10/19/81, or 6/30/85 (ShakeDOWN!!) with 7/1 Set 2, or 4/26/83, or 4/19/82, or etc, etc, etc. VAH-RYE-IT-EEE for a change!
A "Deadhead" using an unreleased 1970 soundboard as an example of what he would NOT want to see as a DaP.
I agree with you, there is no argument from me that DaP#8 (11/30/80) was a GREAT release for the Dave Picks series. My only complaint is I'd like more 1980s era releases in his series than 1 every 18 releases.....11/30/80 is a perfect DEAD show, and one of my favorites. The Scar>Fire might be the best version(s) from 1980-1995, bring on more 1980-1985
Dear RV3, what about DaP vol 8, 11/30/1980?
Imho, Dap Series came to give us the best of the Dead.
Interesting below point about wanting a "Shakedown St." on DaP#19....I seriously doubt we will get a Shakedown, in fact I seriously doubt we will get any songs post: 1969-1978. For that matter, here is another thought: What songs have not been released on ANY Dave Picks releases because the bias towards only releasing shows from 1969-1978. Quite a few if you think about it: Shakedown, Althea, Miracle, Lost>ST Circum, Ala Getaway, West LA, Muddy river, Throwin' Stones, Touch....in fact all original material/albums & all the best (most) covers that the GD did post-1978....just one more item to think about with the CONTINUED focus of the DP series on 1970-1978.
all this doesn't really matter, my guess is Dap#19 is from an unreleased Betty Board(s) return of 1970 shows
part 1: saw Dead and Co. last night at Alpine Valley. Flew from Toronto to Milwaukee, and had a real great time. Really enjoyed the show because the band is ON. Bummed because I missed Cassidy opener. Box of Rain was nice and the TMNS closing set one was good, but I was still looking for more juice. second set delivered with really great EYES, including bass solo and some ethereal moments in the jam ( best highlight for me) .... St. Steven (oh yeah), The Other One, and later a real rocking Help/Slip/YouKnowWho's Tower. My wife's second only GD related evening (first time was Dead and Company inaugural show in Albany. So great to be among 30,000 heads enjoying great music at a great venue! Wish I was there tonight!
Part 2: made me think how amazing it must have been at Alpine thru the 80's, and how nostalgic it must have been for the older heads who had been there. I saw around 30 shows from 1987 to '93/'94, mostly east coast, but I had never been to Alpine Valley and had always heard good things. Now I see why It has earned reputation as great/classic outdoor venue. I searched a bunch of reviews and comments on set list.net. The Grateful Dead played there 20 times. Seems like some epic runs in '88 and '89. I am going to have to listen more.
part 3: For some reason today I listened to Shakedown Street LP. ... TWICE! ha ha ... I always consider this LP a 'guilty pleasure' of sorts. I mean, Shakedown St. / Serenghetti / FOTM is obviously the big juicy chunk, but there other tunes (France, From The Heart Of Me, If I Had the World to Give) that I can dig here in there in a good flow. it's all about the flow. ha ha. But seriously. For real, I do feel this album has some of Donna's best contributions. Frankly, she kills it on From the Heart of Me. What can I say?
Part 4: I believe this week we will hear about Dave's 19. I am feeling ready but not quite sure what to expect. I have not fussed too much over this 'something we have never done' schtick, however, after careful consideration, over the course of this evening, I believe I have forwarded my postulation.
SHAKEDOWN !!! Dave's Picks first EVER ".... peace! See y'all on the next thread
I saw the Dead & Co. last night in Clarkston, MI. Johnny B. Mayer was killing it! However, after the show in the long exit line I had to get my dose of the real thing. I popped on Playing in the band on Dave's Picks Vol.17. It really made me appreciate things:)
"Unlike anything we ever did"
Can't wait to see what Dave and Co. have up their sleeve.
12/20/69 & 2/2/70 with bonus disc from 12/21/69, so the 2 shows Pick has been done. That was an awesome Pick, too. It's really underrated. 2 Dark Stars, 3 Mason's Childrens, a smokin' Smokestack Lightning, a scorching Other One that ranks up there with 3/1/69, and 3 Cumberlands amongst other goodness. I wouldn't mind an 80s multitrack or matrix, but I'd love another Eleven if they go 68-71.
Probably during the week starting on Sunday, July 10, thru Saturday the 16th.
Last year DaP15 was announced July 15, so DaP 19 anncm't should be very soon.
As for waiting to sell more Rocks Boxes first, that may be. Though I think they know the Box will eventually sell out either way, and the DaP19 annc't will drive traffic, helping Box sales. They freshened the site recently with sale items - I know that's normal for every merchandise site, but when I saw it I imagined them tracking clicks to see if it's driving traffic.
One by-product of the longer availability of this Rocks Box (3 1/2 months and still no "1,000 left" banner!) is that flippers who are there to "provide an aftermarket" and make a little profit may be leery of buying future boxes since it's taking forever to sell out (extending the amount of time a flipper may have to keep it in inventory), and demand won't exactly be robust initially when it DOES sell out since it was just on sale for months (unlike the scenario where someone says "i was away for the week and I missed it".) So the extended availability Rocks Box could hurt future initial Box demand.
I am not surprised that there has been no announcement yet. The 78 Box Set is still a fairly new release, and I am sure there is a desire to see as many of them sold as possible before announcing DaP19.
Second half of July is my guess. But I will be happy to be proven wrong.
Kinda surprised we don't have release info & seaside talk yet....we knew what both DaP #17-18 were by 1/1/16. would love to think they would go outside of the box & release something outside of 1970-1978, preferably 1980-1985....but then again, Dave's comfort zone is 1970-1978, and I have a feeling DaP #19 will be a show from returned Betty Boards from 1970...probably two shows from those returned tapes - that being the "something never done before".
....or Milkweg. Oh the possibilities....some more '89 goodness would be welcome under this roof. As would some sweet acoustic. Just "Feed me Seymore!"....the guest theory is also enticing. How about Vegas 5.31.92 with Steve Miller, Vince and Bruce! Two birds with one Throwing Stone....
Good catch, I missed that one somehow. No wonder I cant solve Bolo's riddles..
Don't forget 10/23/89 they opened with it as well. But judging by the overall setlists, I'd rather they went for the Spectrum show if they did, plus that whole tour was multitracked, so that would be a nice "never done before" for the Dave's series.
I've been revisiting many of the 80's shows from Boxzilla over the past few weeks, as I had been feeling a little angsty thinking I hadn't offered them their due (Dew). I gotta say I've been pretty impressed overall given that I don't have all that much prior exposure to say, '80-86. I'd welcome the next Dave's to fall somewhere in there. Or, honestly, anywhere along the spectrum of say, '66 to '95. That should about do it for me. Never difficult to please on this end. Looking forward to the announcement; one can sense the anticipation building....
And clearly Jim's regression analysis will point to the direction of the wind from Dave's seaside rant and might very well possibly predict the outcome of Juno's Jupiter investigations...in addition to exposing the show's date to us all.
I ran your numbers through the Excel Regression Analysis add-on tool.
It provided just two words as the output, "California Earthquake" with a 95% certainty.
Thus we are 95% certain Dave's Picks 19 will be either 4/18/82, Hartford Civic Center or 10/20/89, Philadelphia Spectrum.
Go figure (pun intended)..
5 25 77, 7 31 74, 10 21 71, 10 22 71, 9 24 76, 11 17 73, 12 20 69, 12 21 69, 2 2 70, 4 24 78, 10 30 80,5 14 74, 12 11 69, 12 12 69, 11 17 72, 11 4 77, 2 24 74, 3 26 72, 4 22 78, 3 28 73, 7 19 74, 7 16 76, 7 17 76,
... there must be some pattern here ...
something, somehow, from 2nd half of 1970 would be cool
something from summerish 73
and yes, anything great from the 80's (90's?)
Yes.. mum's the word. They must sequester all the good folks involved.. its like they lock Lemieux, Norman and the Rhino folks up in a dungeon 5 floors below the vault or something.
and Good job on Spring Too Mytime, good price too. I am a big fan of that release..
it's been in the can since a week or two after Dave's DaP18 announcement video...
Sun Stroke Serenaders, The Just Exactly Perfect Band, The Jones Gang, A Band Beyond Description
Which ever band you choose, Merry 4th all!
I hate to say it , no matter what I get I know that there is always 90 minutes of music that I'll love , and like he says once it's Normanized It's more good music that I can add to my vault . I know this is weird , and this is what I hate to say , but l like Daves seaside chats it's the behind the scenes look into the production of what and how and who . Hopefully folks get it , a lot of people's time and effort goes into each Daves pick ,box set, release , it's not just " let's go into the vault " - "this sounds good " - "print up a disc " :::; So looking forward to the next seaside chat . Chris
1970, 80, 81, 85 show = S'all good as long as we get the "Full Norman." And if it's sourced from a Betty board? That will make me betty, betty happy!
Absolutely Killer , Jimmy Cliff opened for JGB , was my first show at the Greek Theatre , magical the whole scene was surreal I wish that I had a camera , but , I know that the pictures would never be as I remember it ! Jerry was beautiful , the time of my life , I wish you where there . Those memories are what makes the five hour plane ride worth it . Jerry and Jimmy jamming together it was bliss ! Like no other show something about the exotic trees that towered around the stage and the way the wind moved the foliage the moon rising over the huge Greek columns , the music , the music , the music . I was so lucky to be there . Warm summer Jerry jammin . Thank you. Chris
Announcement "shortly" after 4 July 2016.
Released show(s): xx/xx/xx, and/or xx/xx/xx, and/or xx/xx/xx, or none of these. It could be just another single show or a *Franken-show* which has nothing to do with US Senator Al Franken, Democrat representing Minnesota
Ok, you made me pull out Greek 88, that Fire on 7/15 is what it's all about in my book. Double WOW and very good recording I have. I gonna throw these 3 on player to listen to.
That whole '88 run at the Greeks was outstanding and the recordings quite good.
oh... and I love the botched Blackbird, it cracks me up hearing Brent crack up over the flubbed intro.
I agree that summer '85 has a few great shows to offer. Cincinnati was released already as part of 30 Trips, but I do agree that the Blossom show on 6-25-85 and both Merriweather
Post Pavilion shows are smokin'. September also had some really good shows. I'm thinking of Chula Vista, 9-15-85, with that unusual second set, including a fine Scarlet>Fire.
Back in the Maxell days, I had a crystal clear soundboard of the Greek Theater show on 7-17-88, and I would be very happy with that as well. Sure, the Blackbird is fairly well botched, but the rest of the show is pretty excellent
One of my favorite tours! Any release would be an instant grab! Listening to July 1st Merriweather roll along with the merging gloaming as I type this....