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Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT

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We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014

Listening Party

5/14/74, Missoula, Montana


"Weather Report Suite"

David Lemieux Volume 9 Seaside Chat

Tracklist

Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)

Disc 1
1. Bertha [6:15]
2. Me And My Uncle [3:15]
3. Loser [6:39]
4. Black-Throated Wind [6:52]
5. Scarlet Begonias> [7:21]
6. It Must Have Been The Roses [5:44]
7. Jack Straw [5:18]
8. Tennessee Jed [8:18]
9. Mexicali Blues [3:39]
10. Deal [4:46]

Disc 2
1. Big River [5:21]
2. Brown-Eyed Woman [5:13]
3. Playing In The Band [20:49]
4. U.S. Blues [5:48]
5. El Paso [4:44]
6. Row Jimmy [8:52]

Disc 3
1. Weather Report Suite [16:08]
Prelude [1:26]
Part I [4:32]
Part II (Let It Grow) [10:10]
2. Dark Star> [26:39]
3. China Doll [5:52]
4. Promised Land [3:46]
5. Not Fade Away> [6:15]
6. Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad [9:58]
7. One More Saturday Night [4:50]

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Spring '89 & '76

With all of the great shows that happened in the Summer and Fall of '89, the Spring tour of that year is often overlooked. The two Mecca and two Ann Arbor shows would make either 2 great box sets or one awesome box set. Hard to believe that it was already 25 years ago this week. The Freedom Hall show from 25 years ago today is good, as are the three Rosemont Horizon.

If there is one show from '89 that I believe needs to be released, besides 10/26 Miami and an Alpine Valley DVD/CD box of all three shows, it would have to be 8/19 Greek. It is absolutely essential. The Other One from this show is ONE OF THE TWO DEFINITIVE VERSIONS PERIOD. The rest of the show is amazing as well.

I had (or perhaps still have buried somewhere) a recording on a VHS tape from the 7/18/76 Orpheum show and liked it a lot. I believe this show was/is in wide circulation so if it isn't in the vault, should be relatively easy to track down.

The NYE Cow Palace release is an enjoyable, but fairly average show from '76. I always preferred the bonus disc and what may possibly be the definitive version of Crazy Fingers, at least next to the One From The Vault release.

I have had a lot of enjoyment from listening to Dicks Picks 20, even if it's kind of a lackadaisical era for the Dead. For some reason, whenever I try to listen to this release from start to finish, I always wind up getting drowsy and falling asleep. I don't know if the Orange tango Jam is trance inducing or just a great sedative.

Back to '89 the other DEFINITIVE VERSION of The Other One is from 5/7 Frost. Prime examples of what sets '89 miles above almost any other point in their 30 year history.

For some definitive Cryptical>Other One>Crypticals, I don't think anybody would dispute the 2/13/70 late show or various FW '69 versions.

It's purely my opinion, but I think the best Other Ones were played pre-retirement and during the Brent era. The post-retirement Keith and donna Other Ones were like Elevator Muzak versions, for the most part with maybe a very small handful of exceptions.

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1976, Yeah!

I've been discovering 1976 gems these past several months, as I said here a while back, I thought it was a very under-rated, under-appreciated year for the Dead. My explorations have leaned towards June-July 1976 in particular, and I've found several shows there that I think are pretty damned good.

I like the Beacon shows of June especially. 6/14 has a real nice Crazy Fingers>Drums>Dancin'>Cosmic Charlie sequence that will knock your socks off. The Crazy Fingers has a bit of a Spanish Jam mixed in with it, very interesting, and the Dancin', which is usually not one of my favorite tunes, is just done so light and funky and hot, it pulls you right in and holds you there. The throw back Cosmic Charlie just seems so well juxtaposed in the sequence, you can't imagine it not being there.

6/15 is another show I enjoy a lot. The Saint Stephen>Not Fade Away>Stella Blue is great. The Saint Stephen has a real nice jammed out second half, and the Not Fade Away is very laid back and jazzy. The Let It Grow is excellent as well.

Actually, now that I think about it, that may be the thing about 1976 that I like so much, the laid back jazzy feel. The playing is still tight, just not as, um, insistent or something, I don't know. It's hard to put your finger on it exactly, but 1976 definitely has it's own sound and feel, and one that I am liking a lot these days.

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4/15/89 Dew

Just rediscovered 4/15/89 The Mecca Milwaukee WI. First of 2 shows.
The Morning Dew closer is Beautiful ! The ending jam is sweet.Brents B-3 was on fire ! My copy was mastered in DBX. Puts a nice airy quality on it. A great couple of rockin' shows.
Any suggestions on an "89 release or box set ? Miami with a monster Dark Star ?
All in good time ?
More Tiger ?
You out there Spacebrother ?

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Orpheum cont'd

That's an intriguing notion Wtj- Did Betty record the Orpheum shows and then they were lost? I would guess she didn't because no Betty's circulate from this run- in any form. The only show on the Archive that exists in great quality is 7/18, and this is from an FM Broadcast. If Betty did record these shows, and they are recently unearthed, it would be one of the most significant discoveries since the Houseboat Tapes.

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Trade off

I'll take the opposite. A Fall72 box October Fox box 3 nights. A great theater as well.
And for Daves 11 and 12 , I'll take
81-85 show.

4-29-84 has some monster playing to begin the show especially the first 4

I don't think this will be released but some of 6-16-85 was crazy. Drums > Space and the end of Fire on the Mountain. Really enjoy.

And for 12 I'll take a
87-90 , even a 90' show including Bruce. Europe 90' has some treats.
10-22-90
10-28-90 are a couple I have heard recently.

Sept. 87 MSG run along with Spectrum shows are interesting.

Dave his picked some prime cuts encompassed within each pick
I suspect Terrapin and Shakedown are coming soon. And shorter songs like Brother Esau and West LA Fadeaway. Are on the horizon.

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Wow kevjones!

Wow, kevjones, what great posts. Love the passion and positive energy for bicentennial Dead! '76 isn't my very favorite year but it's up there. Lots of great stuff in your posts and great listening suggestions too (I'm listening to 9-27 right now).
This is the kind of thing that makes me want to keep reading these boards.

Estimated-eyes, I liked reading your "counterpoint" about '76 as well. I'm already sold on '76 but it's interesting to read the actual reasons why you don't favor this year. Maybe sometime you'll stumble across something special from that year and look at things differently, but then again, maybe you'll just keep digging what you dig, nothing wrong with that.

Deuce, I would make that trade in a heartbeat. How about a '76 and a '73 to go with a box from, say, MSG '87? And I haven't heard all the Laguna Seca shows from '88, but would love to see that PITB make it onto an official release somehow. A box with a cameo appearance from David Hidalgo would be hard to resist.

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Phil

I'm bombed!?! How grate is that? Thanks Kat. :)
Great Bass....Lesh Philling!

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Dear 4: I do...truly.

I do also love the COW! That show epitomizes Phil as a rhythm-bassist...the 4Runner shakes and shimmies all over the road with that one!!! (DUPI (driving under Phil's influence), as in, "No officer, I haven't been drinking! I'm bombed!")

Deuce: Yer on! I need to save $ somewhere in anticipation of the big semicentennial releases.

Scott: I love to hear anyone talk about 66 Dead...by late year the boys had matured past the embryonic stage and were beginning to confidently extend targeted favorites like Viola Lee Blues with mindbending jams...I've been listening pretty heavily (67 too!) the last couple weeks on Archive, made easy by the following "app" from a poster over there:

https://listentothedead.com/1966

With 66/67, I suspect a Road Trip's approach that combines excerpts from premium sets would serve best...though a number of these recordings would certainly test a sound engineer's skills/peace, kat

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And Capitol Theatre

Don't forget Download Series 6/18/76 Capitol Theatre. Poor Download Series, we always forget them :) Hellagood show. I love the June shows - the sound and feel is closer to the 1975 stuff I treasure so much. Makes me a contrarian I suppose, since everyone points out that the band got better and tighter as the year progressed, yet I consistently find myself turning to the June shows for their loosey fun small theatre vibe.

Estimated, I won't try to convince you about the Road Trips Boston 6/9/76 show, just one of those things I guess, but that is one of my favorite releases inclding Dick's Picks etc. The jamming in the Stephen > Eyes segment is among my favorite 25 minutes of Dead there is. And just thinking about that version of Crazy Fingers is making me wish it wasn't time for bed, so I could go crank it right now!

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12/31/76 Morning Dew

I care. Like this:

Once they get settled, Jerry sings so sweetly it is actually surprising. Despite all the weirdness, he is obviously into this show. With the third verse, the drummers set up a stomp that lifts the energy, on its way to you-know-where. Now Garcia is not sounding so nice. He growls just a bit, then lets his voice soar as “all the people” are lost and the solo is set in motion. Phil is loud here, and that is a good thing because he is determined to counter Jerry’s every move. The simmer-down is as subtle as the other end of the song. But it has its job to do: get from not-mattering in a whisper to not-mattering in a scream. The whisper part is truly that. Downright fragile. Elevation is gained as one would float up in effortless levitation. Nothing scary about this, it is heaven. For as long as he needs to (a long time) Jerry jams more and more notes into the mix until no more will fit and he must resort to chunking out chords and finally dusting the frets with Bobby furiously cleaning up behind him. Boom! The end!

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How About a Trade off

Next two picks can be anything in the 70's if we get a box from the 87-90 era.

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re: Orpheum

It's true, David hasn't presented much of the Orpheum shows on the Taper's Section. Just a tune or two each from the 13th and the 17th way back in '07. I wonder if these are part of the Betty's stash. The set lists for these shows are really interesting but I have to admit, I don't know them that well. As an aside, from '76 both the Day on the Green 10-9 and 12-31 Cow Palace are classics. It's hard to pick a favorite between the two...I suppose there's a reason there both enshrined on Cd.

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who cares

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12/31/76 Cow Palace

Morning Dew - 15 minutes of soul-salving bliss.

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Orpheum '76

As much as I dislike to be the bearer of unpleasant tidings, the Orpheum '76 shows are not in the Vault. As great as a box set of these shows would be, regretfully it's not possible.

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1976

I must say I'm a big fan of '76 shows. Didn't used to think there was much going on, but over the years I've found them to be much more interesting and creative than many of the shows from later years. I think there was much more reflection and exploration during this time than in later years. Maybe it was because of the need to reintegrate Mickey that I think it's pretty obvious that they spent a lot more time actually listening to each other. I especially like the Help > Slip > Franklin's (and various related permutations) from this period. A wonderful example is the 6-14-76 show from the Beacon Theatre. I think the Playing In The Band's from this year were very nice. I wasn't thrilled when the Live at the Cow Palace New Year's show was announced, but now it is one of my favorites. I'd love to a box set from the Orpheum 1976 shows.

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re; '76....

....Day On The Green 10/9/76 is about as solid as they come end to end. NYE Cow Palace's Good Lovin'>Samson is sublime. I will literally repeat those two tracks three or four times....

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1976

Sorry to say, but I am in the minority on this one. The year 1976 is not my favorite. Actually, outside of 1983 and the post-Brent 1990s, it is my least favorite year. That said, I really like the Day on the Green Dicks Picks and Cow Palace NYE is a solid show.

Tapes I had and, in particular, the Boston RT release do not do it for me. I remember listening to Dave rave about that last RT-- when I got it, I listened once, then twice looking for the amazing qualities described. I am still searching. That release is my least favorite official release that I own (I skip others that don't appeal). No problem, Dave, lots of people like it.

I don't think 1976 shows flow as well as they did in other years. I also think it took time to re-integrate Mickey into the sound after five years with just a handful of shows with him. I think by Day on the Green and NYE, the shows picked up more steam and had a better flow.

Just my opinion. If I had time to explore archive and give it more of a listen, perhaps I could be convinced otherwise, but I just don't. I rely on these releases for my new Dead.

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Orpheum 76

I've said it before (maybe even in this thread) and chime in to emphasize the point made here again:

Orpheum 1976 Box Set must happen!

Also, what about Gainesville?

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Antonjos76Bonus

A few years ago Antonjo took the time to construct this wonderful treat for all of us to enjoy & spread far and wide. This gives as much pleasure as anything from this year. If you forgot about it, dig it out a give a listen. Thanks again Antonjo.

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~Antonjos76Bonus~
Help>Slipknot>Franklin's 6-17-76(30days2012)
TheWheel 6-29-76(So Many Roads box)
TheOtherOne 6-27-76(30days2012)
ScarletBegonias 9-30-76(SpiritOf'76)
LetItGrow>MightAsWell 10-02-76(SpiritOf'76)

P.S. Also worth a good listen 1976-06-15 The Beacon, NYC R/M SBD

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New Year's Run '69 ....

.... would make a great box

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69-70

new years eve 1969 Boston tea party is pretty spectacular

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Final musings on 1976

As I put my thoughts to the keyboard this morning, I decided to go back and listen to a small sample size of shows on the archive that I am not as familiar with. A little bit here and a little bit there.

What really surprises me is the fearlessness of the transitions between songs that were never linked before or after really. The power of The Other One in 1976, it almost hearkens back to the days of 1968-1970 (I feel like the song never really had that 'punch' after 1970), but I was surprised by the few versions I listened to this morning. RAW. The one from The 'From Egypt with Love' Road Trips 78 is of a similar vein (I think it was Dick Latvala's favorite if you read his review in Deadbase).

A few more rants...

9/27/76 needs to be released sooner than later. Holy cow!
7/17/76 also needs consideration for release. That Spanish Jam takes me back to 1970 style Dead.
Actually the entire Orpheum Run from 1976 SHOULD be the next box set!!!

My final musing on 1976, is the gradual and steady steamroller of energy that was building up towards 1977. The power seems to grow with each passing month and came to a crescendo in the Spring of 1977. If you look at the very early setlists of 1977 (maybe the first 10 or so and a few thereafter), you will still see shows with wildly varied setlists, but the eventual show format that would solidify itself for the duration of their career was firmly in place by May of 77, and Help>Slip practically vanished midway through 1977. 1976 is a unique year unlike any other in the band's history.

Spirit of '76 indeed!

Caveat: These are only my opinions are not meant to reflect, or persuade the opinions of fellow Deadheads.

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87 and 76

87 was my biggest year on the road with 33 shows. Had a blast and loved every minute of it. I can't say that everything in the spring was release worthy. Brendan Byrne comes to mind as the boys were having fun, but the playing was not as tight as other nights (I did love Phil singing Box with a Joisey accent). The best run I saw for sound, playing and set lists was Shoreline in October. I know some of it has been released, but it might make a nice little box.

I too have always enjoyed 1976. The playing was more straight forward, but really kept things moving. My first exposure to the Betty's was a box of tapes including Buffalo and Cornell 77 and Beacon Theater and Orpheum 76. Loved 'em all, but the Beacon is one I continue to go back to.

While we all think that DL has a great job, I also think that he genuinely works to release the coolest, best sounding, perhaps lost treasures regardless of era he can find for his own series. I hope we are not wringing the fun out of this process for him. Let's not dig too hard under the bed or yammer on about what we want. I like opening the gifts at Christmas with no expectation.

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@owlshead 1976

I think you'd be pleasantly surprised by what you find in 1976. It's very digestible, and you might find members of your family tapping their feet (as long as you don't tell them who it is); I do this to my 74 year old father quite often if I have the chance. I never tell him though, because he has preconceived notions regarding the GD.

Anyway, you can start with what has been released commercially:

Dicks Picks 20-9/25/76 and 9/28/76
Dicks Picks 33-10/9/76 and 10/11/76 (10/9 is a personal favorite)
Dave's Picks 4- 9/24/76-there is a great audience copy of this on the archive if you can't find a reasonably priced copy
Road Trips-6/10/76
Live at the Cow Palace 12/31/76

Most of these are on iTunes or Spotify, I don't really do streaming, and prefer physical media, but they are there if you want to take a gander.

For shows that aren't commercially released here are a few of my other favorites
6/3/76
6/11/76
6/28/76
The entire July Orpheum Run
10/15/76

If you browse through the archive you will find some pretty good audience tapes, as the Dead played small theatres that year. Also, the SBDs are great because Betty Cantor-Jackson was the primary recordist at the time.

Poke around a little bit, see what you like. Let me know your thoughts, or any nuggets you uncover.

Anyone else who wants to weigh in on 76, be my guest...

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think that may be the captain.

Elton John. Just check the shoes :)

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Shows of Note and DaP V10

One of my favorite tapes was the Dead in '66 in LA
It had this track labeled "Banana Grape Stomp"
that had this crazy Pigpen organ jam.
Plus a lot of the stuff from Odds and Ends.

Dave's Picks Volume Two - Announced April 10, 2012
Dave's Picks Volume Six - Announced April 11, 2013
Dave's Picks Volume Ten - Announced April 1?, 2014

Looks like four more days to me.

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Kevjones:

I hear what you say re 1976...but try searching You Tube
for 1975.......you may be pleasantly surprised. I was.

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1976

09/27/76 is an off the charts show.

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If the PTB released

If the PTB released a.........box from 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's I would buy them all.

So who would you be making the most money from?

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Betty Boards

2 slightly different lists posted here

http://taperssection.com/index.php?topic=181.0

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Marketing Model

It seems to me there is no ulterior motive or conspiracy not to release later 80's or 90's shows. I think the the band and powers that be are giving the fans what they want. Everybody should be free to judge what they deem the best or most deserving but it is clear that the band and people who are in charge are not happy with the later years in particular mid 80's and most of the 90's. I hope some people don't get what they want released because the stuff from post 85 just does not do it for me but that is my opinion and taste. I would like to see a Radio City Warfield box. There has to be enough left for at least a box or more. Video exists for the whole 10-29 and 10 31 shows and I'm sure a lot more.

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Toni Tenille

Wikipedia is pretty fascinating. I did not realize that Toni Tenille did backup vocals on Pink Floyd's The Wall!

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@kevjones

enjoyed your exposition on 1976!

Any shows you really like/standout so I can take a listen sometime!

thanks -

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My ritual also...

...of breaking out the E72 in April/Spring Time.....Listening to 4/7 right now as I get ready for some matinee Yankee baseball on this cloudy dreary Tuesday,perfect for a trip back to England in '72. I don't care how much has been released, what we need is a Fall '72 box set as a companion to this E72 release! I hope 12/12/69 is Dave's 10 and we get the announcement soon(today would be nice David!). Anyway, back to the tunes and take care folks! Remember, Its all good!

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Single Best Era

I tend to stay out of these single best era type discussions, but I have to weigh in. I enjoy all eras, but probably listen to the 80s the least. Jerry was in pretty rough shape in the early to mid 80s and I find a lot of the music sounds very dated. Don't get me wrong, there are dozens of gems from the decade, but I enjoy a 90s show more than most 80s shows.

Now, I will give my humble opinion on the Dead's most unique and singular year. I have to give that honor to 1976. I find myself gravitating to this year more and more as the years roll by. The year is clearly a transitional year, but it bridges the gap between the Wall of Sound era and what was to come in 1977 through 1980. One of the biggest reasons for this assertion is the contributions of Keith and Donna. I think they had their finest year together in 1976.

Also, the influx of new tunes like Crazy Fingers, Help>Slip>Frank, Music never stopped and Lazy Lightning, along with new rockers like Might As Well, the occasional Mission In the Rain and a Fire on the Mountain tease make it really unique. In addition to the influx of such strong material, old chestnuts were reworked and reinvented. I'm thinking of Cosmic Charlie, Let it Grow, St. Stephen, Dancin' and Not Fade Away.

The year is such a delight, Jerry still has his "young" voice and Phil still drops a lot of those bombs. Bob is also entering his prime as a singer. You can hear remnants of that 72-74 sound with stand alone Playins to end the first set, Scarlet was not forever tied to Fire and wild combos like Dancin>Wharf Rat etc could be found there. Another unique tie to the Wall of Sound Era is intro to Eyes of the World on the Boston Music Hall Road Trips. They do that key change that they traditionally did in 73-74.

Sure there is no China Cat>Rider, but the setlists are all over the place (Franklin's encore anyone?), and the playing and singing is tight. The Help on the Ways from 1976 are as good as anytime they ever played that song. There is not a lot of "space" in 1976, but at times, it can be a little much.

In 1976, the band laid the blueprint for the final 20 years of their career, but still paid respect to days gone by. Get out your Deadbase and look through the setlists. Pretty rockin, and most that I have heard live up to their billing. The only show I haven't been a fan of for years is that Chicago show with the Tennessee Jed opener. That show is soooo slow.

Cheers to 1976!

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Dead, literally.

The dearth of releases from the later years can be reasonably explained - the marketing model used for selecting what to release is based on age. Earlier shows are being released now because soon all the old farts like me who were grooving to the Dead during the sixties and seventies will be dead and buried, so a large portion of that market will be lost. Subsequently, they can release shows from the later years because those punters will still be around to buy 'em! This may seem outrageous, but it is no more bizarre than some of the conspiracy theories that have been postulated as to why so few shows from the later years have been released so far. All good things in all good time. More sixties shows, please, before I shuffle off this mortal coil!

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Spring 1987

'87 was my first year catching The Dead, I managed to hit 12 shows, I was just 14 but the bug hit me big time. One show that is always overlooked that I think people would really dig is the third night at Irvine, April 19th. The setlist doesn't look like it has any big standout jams that jump out at you but it's definitely a really odd song selection in the second set. Everything is very well played and there's some really interesting grooves they get into there in space, very highly recommended show.

1: Half Step> Franklin's, Minglewood, Ramble On, Tons Of Steel, Box Of Rain, Cassidy, Alabama> Promised
2: China Cat> I Know You Rider> Woman Smarter> Black Muddy River> Miracle> Cumberland> Drumz> Other One> Wharf Rat> NFA E: NFA, Brokedown

I too love the 80s and 90s, I would LOVE to see some Vince era love, 5/21/95, 9/13/93, etc.

I'm a fan of every era so Dave's Picks is always a win/win scenario for me!

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Interesting... I did not know that Elton sat in with the Beach Boys.

Speaking of... (late to the game as always) just found out that there this is now a goodbye yellow brick road 40th anniversary super deluxe edition.

and of course the Chateau d'Herouville

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"annual Europe 72 ritual"

And I thought I was the only one! Even within this legendary procession of shows, today's installment is preemiment with that monstrous Dark Star>Sugar Magnolia>Caution suite; currently playing is the version of Cumberland Blues, to which - along with the balance of the original 72 comp release - many Heads owe a debt of gratitude, having been initiated to the tribe with the spectacular sounds of the E72 'sampler'/peace,katie

P.S.: The April Fool's link has infected me with a chronic desire for 6/10...

P.P.S.: Mr.DC - I happened to be in the right place at the right time (deadhook (the old, and very great, version) when a veteran member posted the desire to sell his Fillmore 69 box for $300USD (thank you William!!!)...I note that prices have almost halved on ebay and amazon over the last 2 years - in fact, both are currently listing used sets with otherwise perfect playing media for just under $400....a lot, I know, but very much worth it!/k

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re: the "various places"

Unfortunately, I know not of these said places. 'Tis it an easy to browse list?
P.S. I suppose it would not shed light on any of the 'unknown' tapes. That is, unless there are some 'unknown known', or is it 'unknown unknown'? tapes...wait, I'm getting dizzy Damn you former secretary of war Rummy!

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Betty Boards

You can search and find lists of the known Betty Boards in various places. Not sure if they have all been circulated, but it would be easy enough to check

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owlshead

I think that's Elton, not the Captain!

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A question about the Betty's...

I have posted this in another forum with no luck on a reply so if anyone knows...If some or all of the Betty's are returned (which to my understanding from reading the Relix article is not a foregone conclusion yet) will they include shows that have not been previously transferred yet? We all know of the examples that are missing from the Dead's vault but which circulate with fine sound: 5-7 to 5-9-77, 7-7 and 7-8-78, etc...but what about the shows in which no board tapes have ever circulated like 1-20-79 (only AUD) or 2-6-79? (no tape at all!) Just curious on this if anyone has any info...

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New Speedway Boogie

Please don't dominate the rap Jack if you've got nothin' new to say. If you please go back up the track. This train has got to run today.
Well you know the rest.
The key word here is NEW.

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When Dav's Pick's vol. 8

When Dav's Pick's vol. 8 came out he was attacked for that pick so it's a no win situation for David. Don't blame spacebrother or anyone else if Dave's mad at us.

Dead.net where the customer is always wrong.

Sorry for posting in this forum when i said I was done. It needed to be said.

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'87 meh, though some fine shows here and there

I was at Hampton in '87. It was just ok, not worthy of a box set or a single show release, not even close. WTF???? I am a fan of 80s Dead. Most of us here have big ears and we know what's good and what's great and WHAT SUCKS, sadly. I am sure more 80s will come out, more and plenty should and I don't see anyone here objecting to that. SpaceBro, I see where you've gotten into similar stupid pissing contests at the Zappa site (I don't post there). You have a bug up your ass. Your views are extreme, to say the least. Here you go again telling us that we ("it's on you") are ignoring facts, data, and you. That really sucks to see, I thought you had achieved some measure of self-control, AND A THICK SKIN. This is art, has nothing to do with objective reality, it's about taste and emotive response. If you tossed around broad put-downs and played as much 80s Dead as seems to go around in your head at a party, you might be asked to leave.

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Artwork

After seeing the 'likely' cover of DaP 10 for 12/12/69, I am excited. These last two covers from Tony Millionaire have been great. I'm really hoping for a future DaP with a juicy Fire on the Mountain. I'm itching for Tony to draw a dragon holding a matchbook...

Also, since the cat is out of the bag on 12/12/69, I'm waiting with baited breath for the bonus disc announcement...

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Spacebrother

I enjoy how passionate you are about the Dead and your campaign for more balanced releases. You are not a troll, but I worry that you are tying yourself in knots over all this. Don’t let it get to you mate, Spring is coming!
It’s never going to be possible to ‘prove’ what era is best (statistics can be found to support any argument) so why bother. We all like what we like and that’s fine. And if you express forceful views and make definitive statements about what is best, you shouldn't be surprised when a few combative and sometimes not so friendly folks push back.
I think you’ll find that almost everyone here who doesn’t ‘get’ the 80’s Dead like you do (and that includes me) has no problem with your views. However I (and maybe others) find it wears a little thin to be stereotyped as snobs or lesser deadheads etc. Look, I am not going to complain when DL keeps serving up the stuff I like best, but don't blame me for for Dave's choices; it doesn't mean that we are conspiring against you and your favourite eras.

I really hope you get your 80’s box set soon, packed full of goodies. As for ‘lightweights’ like me, the annual Europe 72 ritual has just begun ;-)
Peace and love
CB

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@Yeti_UK

"Perhaps not having seen them means my view is less relevant"

Nope, I think your view is as relevant as anyone who posts here.

And, yes the Final Four is almost over? UConn vs ND tonight... not a huge fan of the women's game (big fan of US Women's National Soccer team). But two undefeated teams tonight! My have to take a peek?