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Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT

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We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014

Listening Party

5/14/74, Missoula, Montana


"Weather Report Suite"

David Lemieux Volume 9 Seaside Chat

Tracklist

Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)

Disc 1
1. Bertha [6:15]
2. Me And My Uncle [3:15]
3. Loser [6:39]
4. Black-Throated Wind [6:52]
5. Scarlet Begonias> [7:21]
6. It Must Have Been The Roses [5:44]
7. Jack Straw [5:18]
8. Tennessee Jed [8:18]
9. Mexicali Blues [3:39]
10. Deal [4:46]

Disc 2
1. Big River [5:21]
2. Brown-Eyed Woman [5:13]
3. Playing In The Band [20:49]
4. U.S. Blues [5:48]
5. El Paso [4:44]
6. Row Jimmy [8:52]

Disc 3
1. Weather Report Suite [16:08]
Prelude [1:26]
Part I [4:32]
Part II (Let It Grow) [10:10]
2. Dark Star> [26:39]
3. China Doll [5:52]
4. Promised Land [3:46]
5. Not Fade Away> [6:15]
6. Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad [9:58]
7. One More Saturday Night [4:50]

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Gainesville

Will be featured on SiriusXm and
also 4-21-86 ,, nice Desolation Row ,, cool Berkeley run. Visions of Johanna 4-22-86 nice too
4-1-84 Help > Slip > Franklins
11-6-77 and this one is full of highlights
Most are audience and I'm pretty sure 11-29-80 Gainesville is?

Also checked out pieces of 10-17-78. Can't say enough about 1978. Very underrated year. Although not a lot of shows compared to other years and tours.. and like others have said some of the best shows from 78' are not in Vault. July Red Rocks for example, but the situation for me is, I already have a good copy of that show and would prefer others from same era.

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Stumbled across an old gem on the Archive...

...that being River Bend Music Center in Cincy. 6/24/85. Remember loving the tape I had many times over. Maybe not official release worthy (or maybe?) Second set is pretty sweet. You can't deny a He's Gone>Smokestack>Cryptical>Drumz>Space>Other One>Comes A Time>Other One>Cryptical can you? I dare you. Plus, apparently a massive storm rolled through that set. Sweet. I witnessed such a scene at a show in Vegas in '92. Depending on your state of mind, thunderboomers and arcs of lightning during a Dead show could be either scary as hell or awe-inspiring, or both. Check it out brothers and sisters. '83-'85 definitely had it's moments and this show was one of them. A mediocre show is still better than a day at work or no show at all. Might delve deeper into this tour over the next few days.

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mbarilla re: 6-10-73 RFK

Agree about 6-10-73 RFK, one of my favorite Eyes from one of my favorite shows. Love the Allman-flavored Not Fade Away as well. The whole show is great. Definitely on my wish list.

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Warlocks Box/hope similar Cutler;Healy shows w/Plageant process

The 1989 Hampton concerts were recorded on 24-track analog tapes. The album was created by digitally remixing the original tapes into HDCD format. This provides enhanced sound quality when played on CD players with HDCD technology, and is fully compatible with conventional CD players.[8]
Formerly the Warlocks is packaged in a wooden box reminiscent of a cigar box. In addition to the six CDs, it contains an accordion-fold booklet with liner notes and photos of the concerts. It also includes a photo of the Hampton Coliseum marquee listing the band as "The Warlocks", a Hampton Coliseum postcard with the set list of the second show, and a Grateful Dead Halloween themed button. Additionally, it contains reproductions of tickets to both concerts, a handout of information for concert attendees, and an article about the Grateful Dead from the October 22, 1989 edition of The Charlotte Observer.

On another note 1-11-79 nice first set, pretty sure it was audience recording. Friend of a Devil Minglewood and From the Heart of Me. Strange to hear the near end of an era. Brent took shape quickly but the playing from the band was very similar. 78' launched some crazy drums > space and Garcia's guitar was on fire through the Warfield and Radio city 1980 run

Time for Winterland 10-17-78. If I Had the World To Give

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3-14-90 Spring 90' Box 2 ?

Very nice show closing with Dear Mr. Fantasy > Miracle > Lovelight > Black Muddy River. Not sure of the audio source, if it was already remastered or same as Vol. 1. I like the audio from Dozin' at the Knick better.

Either way the idea of Spring 90 vol..2 is floating around with Dave and sounds very doable from his perspective. He wants feedback, so I would suggest the Plageant process on the remaining shows if they are to release all of Spring tour. And release same as Nightfall and without a net.

My good friend who is a casual dead head got a listen of the first box. 3-19-90 ,, Box of Rain > Foolish Heart > Playin , which is great stuff altogether, but he commented on the sound. I was surprised he could tell. He has listened to a lot with me but only owned Dicks Picks 12 and 17. Not sure how 17 was recorded, but I do enjoy the sound and also 12 sounds great.

I personally would prefer other releases. From other eras, I really like Brent and if they go with 90' let's hear something from May and on. I got in on Vol. 1 very satisfied , but what else could they include in that box, (vol 2) if it's going to have all the bells and whistles like vol. 1
Tour book without a net graphic , plus other collectibles, I would rather just have the music as individual releases or a 2-3 show in a box and the rest a la carte. Europe 90' would be interesting too. With the best from Spring and the best from Fall Europe 90' combo mix

The recent Fall1989 Garcia release is great and price even better. $35-40. 2 full shows plus opener. I like the package and is very well done. Plus if u want to go for broke there was a $250 box that was a picture frame from Mouse.

Dave what is the chances for 3-29-90? Feels like he wants a box around that show,

And also bring back the Fillmore west box. Just include more shows and call it the Dream Bowl and Fillmore West.

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You're right, 4-30-77

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Missing Betty's

Thought 4/30 is part of the Download Series, not 5/3. And also mention of the possibility of June of '76, and Fall of '77, Spring of '78- Red Rocks- there's quite a list of missing Betty's.

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April 77 Palladium and Capitol

Is a must as well. Spectrum/Springfield. One of the March shows from a Eaton link was featured on a radio fundraiser. (3-20-77?) Franklins Tower was nice to hear.

Some other treats are from Springfield as well 6-30-74. Wow Scarlet > jam and of course the Playin > Uncle Johns Band > Playin. Sounded like a hint of Smokestack lightning in the first part of playin' a little before UJB.

Another fun show 7-2-88 with Brent and some newer material of the time. Great stuff on Memphis Blues/Row Jimmy, I'm also a fan of the tunes from Built to Last nice to hear them close the set and work through those ones.And hopefully some more from 88-90 are released with Plageant process.

3-11-93 So Many Roads/Music Never Stopped

Kezar would be awesome , as suggested, and so would RFK 6-10-73. I'm all for any show in great sound quality with Dark Star / Playin' or truckin > other one jams included. Not sure if those 2 mentioned exist in great quality. However, a lot of those just happened to of happen from 1972-1974. Eyes from 6-10-73 was a treat. Another gem from 73' already released is 2-28-73. Check out the first set closer if possible. I think it was pulled from archive.

Sugaree
Box of Rain
El Paso
He's Gone
Jack Straw

I would like releases from all eras and 69/70, Fall 72'+any A+ 73' . June/July76' , Summer/Fall 1983-84 , 85 drums > space.

Bird Song 72-73
Wharf Rat 77-78
Franklins Tower 78

Let it Grow, Row Jimmy , Little Red Rooster , Candyman, and Dylan covers from 80's with Brent have been nice finds for me lately.
Can't wait to check out jam of the day 3-14-90
And jam of the week from this site October 69' Dark Star > St. Stephen > Eleven > Lovelight.

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Tapes of '77

Thanks Wharfrattx. Apology accepted. Perhaps I should calm down too. I have been on the bus since '73 but never knew anyone with tapes and I never pursued that avenue. I buy all the cds that are released and of course I know all about the early May '77 shows. I listen on the archive all the time. And while there has been a lot of May'77 released, it does seem that some of the best shows are not out there yet. I would love to have them. Besides Cornell, I want New Haven & Buffalo. I guess we all want it all.
Rock on.

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re: 5-4-77

That would actually make sense too as it would pretty much wrap up the majority of May. 4-30 was released in the download series so the only May ones missing would be: 5-1/3-77, 5-18-77 and 5-26-77.

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Knew it was coming...

To quote Mick Jagger from the film Gimme Shelter, "Can everybody just please cool out?". Wow, I'm being treated like Patagonian Fox! hahaha. I did not mean to imply that 5/7-9 should not be released. I'm no fool, of course it should, and I'd be one of the first in line to purchase it. My point was that I thought it was funny with all of the possibilities of exciting rarely-heard music that we may not have or may not have in good quality, that everyone's priority seemed to be music that I assumed we all had already in good quality. To hbob1995, man I'm sorry if I offended you. I naturally assumed that most folks on these boards had these shows in good quality already. If I came across with an attitude of "I have it already, screw you" then I apologize. That certainly was NOT my intention whatsoever. I am THE most unselfish person when it comes to spreading this wonderful music. I read an interview with Dick Latvala where he basically stated the same thing I was trying to get across. He wasn't denying the brilliance of those shows, he just didn't see their release as a priority because he too assumed everyone already had them in good quality. Again, my humble apologies to anyone who took offense at my post. I'm super-excited about this new develpment! And I guess maybe I'm in the minority, but I can hear 5/8/77 anytime, heard it a million times, (and am floored everytime!!) I am extremely excited about the possibilities of shows like DaP vol 8, though, stuff that is rare or has only been available in poor quality. That's all, peace to all!

P.S. - what about Gainesville?!?!

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5-4-77

I've always included 5-4 New York in the pantheon of the often considered May shows: 5-5 New Haven, 5-7 Boston, 5-8 Barton Hall and 5-9 Buffalo. It's the second set, especially PITB>Comes a Time>PITB reprise that makes me include it in the more often thought of 5-5 through 5-9. Is a 5 show box too much? I think not...
P.S. I am for including at least a download option for single shows, and Barton Hall really should be available as a single show physical release imo.

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Box plus Standalone Option

Wharfrattx - I don't agree with you, but I think some of the responses are harsh. You are *not* crazy or selfish in my opinion :)

I'm all for releasing these if they are acquired. HOWEVER, I'd love to see single-show releases of them - there are probably a lot of non-Deadheads out there who've at least heard of the famed Cornell show and would buy a single-show general release of that show, but who would pass up a pricey box set.

My suggestion (as if it matters): Release Cornell as a standalone release for general public, and simultaneously release a box set containing 5/5 - 5/9. I would buy the box set, but it would tickle me no end to know that thousands of folks are being turned on by Cornell.

Boy it doesn't take much to get us going, ey? Not to mention, the "don't release any more 1977" folks got real quiet when the remote possibility of 5/5-5/9 cropped up :)

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re: New Haven

CrispyRob, Yeah, the Estimated is also really hot. If you get a chance, check out that 20+ minute Sugaree again and there's even a Charlie Miller upgrade of the show!

https://archive.org/details/gd1977-05-05.123485.sbd.miller.flac16

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Tapes?

Excuse me. I have just shy of 400 Dead cds but I have ZERO tapes! I would like to have some of this music "that everyone already has" but I do not. Plus, even if you have it already, wouldn't you like it in its best possible quality? I have seen some crazy posts here, but that one is right up there with the craziest I have seen. Talk about selfish. "I got mine" so screw the rest of you out there. Not a very nice sentiment for sure.
Trying to rock on.

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New Haven

You beat me to the punch. Been awhile since I've listened, but the New Haven Estimated also is a monster, if I recall correctly.

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5/7-5/9/77

It would be absolutely insane for them NOT to release these shows in the best possible sound once back in the vault, as a box (so it wouldn't take away from the Dave's Picks possibilities). I agree that Boston should be included, too. One of the best Half-Steps, great Eyes, all around fantastic show. I always thought of these three as of a piece, even though I neglected to mention Boston earlier. Probably should throw in 5/5 New Haven, which is also quite good, although not quite on the same level,

I'm incredibly excited to hear the stuff that has never been circulated, too, but this a no-brainer if there ever was one.

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Add New Haven Coliseum to that box

If were hoping for a box including 5-7,8,&9, why not throw 5-5 in there as well. It has some cool performances (Sugaree, Peggy-O and Saint Stephen) and would round out that box pretty well.

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5/7-5/9

I can't think of one single reason not to release 5/7-5/9 if they get the tapes and restore them. Not one.

On the other hand, I can think of numerous reasons to release a nice small box.

It's fine that you want to play devils advocate, but anything beyond a single post about why not to release them will be silly. No offense intended.

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Whichever way your pleasure tends...

If they get ahold of the tapes I have the utmost faith that TPTB, DL, et al, can make some sort of improvement on the sound and put a grate package together. Like SSDD, its got too much historical significance to pull the limited edition BS with the fans. I'd rather have a small collection of varied Dead from all different periods that I know or believe people made every effort to squeeze the best sound out of the recording, than have piles of tapes with just listenable or decent sound. Happy Friday. Peace.

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Betty Boards

My first vote would be for Kezar 73. With as many photos as possible of that sunny day in Golden Gate Park!

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May '77

When 5/7-5/9/77 are able to be released, they shouldn't be, because the improvement in sound quality isn't worth it? I can not agree less. There's great sound available for many shows now, and official releases always improve the sound quality. And 5/7 to 5/9 is widely regarded as one of the strongest 3 night stands in GD History. These shows should be a top priority if able to be released.

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I know, I'm a heritic.

I too am extremely excited about the Betty Board release possibilities, but more so for things we don't already have in good quality.

Okay, here goes. Why release 5/7-9 except for posterity? Not sure about you guys, but my copies of those 3 shows, especially 5/8, sound incredible! Better than many official releases. Do you think the margin of increased quality of the official release would justify this music being commercially released over some potentially other, less available shows? Sure, we'd get some cool packaging and maybe some sort of psychological closure, but the music itself? Eh, Everyone's already got it, and in excellent quality! Now, the same arguement could be made concerning 8/27/72, but the inclusion of the movie was the real deal for me. All I had previously was a crappy VHS copy. And, it's 8-27-72! I releaze that some folks hold 5-8-77 with the same regard, but now that most of May has been released, with the exception of the Dew and Dancing, which was already released a decade ago, 5/8 is really pretty much in step with the rest of the month. Dick Latvala pointed this out several times speculating that the fervor over 5/8 was due to the fact that it was widely available in good quality and that was his reason why he also felt it wasn't necessary to rush to find the masters and release it. Seems like I'm playing devil's advocate here, but c'mon, I know some of you folks agree with me but are afraid to admit it!

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GD DS Carousel Ballroom 3-17-68

Good call Wharfrat. I was just listening to 3/17/68 yesterday. And having the revelation that the Dead were never better than they were in 1968. I have that "revelation" regularily, but it always seems like a surprise.

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March Deadness

Great idea, Dr. Lunchbox!

While watching college hoops I'll often reach for my copy of Deadbase X to see if the boys ever played in that venue, check out the setlists if they did, and wonder what the scene might have been like.

I can easily imagine that some of those wonderful sounds are still reverberating through the rafters even today....!

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May 7, 8, 9 box set

@rdevil - "There's been a lot of talk about 5-8 and 5-9-77 and rightly so, but if those shows ever come out as a box set I hope Dave will include the Boston Garden show from 5-7. I've always thought of these three shows together and feel that 5-7 is right there with the other two."

Good call, rdevil! I feel exactly the same! Funny how excited we can get over the mere *possibility* that these shows may be recovered & released someday!

Happy FRIDAY, Deadheadland!

Anyone else around here going to be at the Ryman tomorrow night for RatDog?

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Happy St. Patty's

Happy St. Patty's all!

Winters grip is still strong but the old man can't hang on forever. Seasons will change. Starting my Friday morning routine of what shows or music I want to cue up for the weekend. Been reading Sam Cutlers book so I'm thinking something '69-'70. Definitely going with GD DS Carousel Ballroom 3-17-68! Peace.

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Speaking of basketball tourneys

Trying something new on my site. A march madness challenge with a grateful dead twist.

http://www.deadforayear.com/march-deadness/

It's totally free to register and play. Should be a lot of fun, plus there will be a cheat sheet once the brackets go live with all the tunes on it so you can listen to some cool stuff while you fill out your bracket.

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5-7-77

Wow, all this talk about Betty boards has me excited. Those Cape Cod 79 shows would make a great small box.
There's been a lot of talk about 5-8 and 5-9-77 and rightly so, but if those shows ever come out as a box set I hope Dave will include the Boston Garden show from 5-7. I've always thought of these three shows together and feel that 5-7 is right there with the other two.
The Half Step and especially Wharf Rat from Boston are among my all time favorites.

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Cape Cod 1979

Hey four winds good call..... EVERYONE talks about the first show but IMHO the show
On the 28th just RIPS...incredible jams... Great set list and the Franklins alone just puts you in cruise control. I picked up a recorded copy in a hole the wall RECORD store in connecticut. It was from cellar dwellar out of the United Kingdom ... Incredible recording
Thanks for bringing it up....something for the weekend to listen to....
Okay Dave .... I don't want to interrupt you from setting up your camera to tell us the good
News about your next pick.... Are you saving it for Saint Patricks Day????

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Okay, Dave, It's time.......

.......for the next Seaside Chat. I miss the sound of the wind and the bird songs.

9/18/87 Matrix. Or anything with a Stealin' or Viola Lee.

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Cape Cod '79

I wounder if the two Cape Cod show's are in that batch of reel's.

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Betty Boards

Interesting article.

If the May '77 tapes do indeed find their way back into the vault, and because of the historical significance of the famed 5/8 and 5/9 shows, I would suggest that tptb give these shows the same treatment as with the recent Sunshine Daydream 8/27/72 release.

I think few would argues that Cornell and Buffalo are right up there along with FW 2/27 through 3/2 '69, FE 2/13-14/70, Harpur College 5/2/70, Port Chester 2/18-24/71, E'72 Tour, the for mentioned 8/27/72, Winterland 10/16-20/74, Great American Music Hall 8/13/75, 12/31/78, Warfield 9/25 through 10/14 1980, Radio City Music Hall 10/22 through 10/31 1980, Greek 7/13/84, 12/31/87, Hampton 10/8-9/89, Meadowlands 10/16/89, Nassau 3/29/90, RFK 7/12/90, MSG 9/20/90, 12/31/90, RFK 6/14/91, MSG 9/10/91, Boston Garden 9/26/91 and Oakland 10/31/91.

These shows are arguably considered the best of the best from all eras, and should rightfully be available for wide distribution.

Of all of the releases thus far, the single biggest blunder by tptb is that the FW'69 box was limited edition. An expensive limited edition box set would be a disservice for any and all of the shows I listed above.

I wonder if the complete Warfield and Radio City Music Hall shows were recorded by Betty Cantor Jackson on 7.5 ips 2 track reel tapes and if they were, that they might be in the tape stash mentioned in the Relix article? I know that the multi-track tapes aren't complete shows.

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Like one of Pavlov's dogs, Dave has conditioned my expectation of continuous releases to the calendar: It's March, it's warm, conference tournaments abound, and I've played the first volume of this year's series at least 3 times, sooooooo I'm beginning to salivate for news of the second installment!

Thus, I find he's entirely to blame for my compulsive preorder of the DiP 19 rerelease to sate the hunger! Actually, it wouldn't've mattered...Fall '73 is my heroin...anyone else starting a "Christmas" account for 2015? / peace katie

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Betty Boards

This reminds me of the article that mentioned how Dick's Picks 30 came to be. Perhaps this story is worth remembering when reading Betty's Nagra was refurbished.

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Now playing...

Listened to DP 13, Nassau 1981 for my commute this morning. "Jack-A-Roe"!!! A long time, early 80's first set fave of mine. Oodles of noodles.

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Betty boards and royalties..

So, I've seen many heartfelt appeals to release these Betty Boards and give Betty some long overdue scratch for her work. However, there are quite a few official releases in the last 10-15 years with Betty's name in the credits. I don't understand how releasing any of these would be any different since they are not her property. Can someone enlighten me if I am mistaken?

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@nebulorb

I actually have 2 extras that are spoken for, row G, just left of center. However, if you PM me your email address, I will drop you a line if that person changes their mind. A lot can happen in three months, especially when you are a graduate student with 4 kids. So, it is not outlandish to think he may end up not being able to go.

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I forgot to ask...

Does this mean we might finally hear the 2-6-79 Tulsa show? Or maybe the missing Carbondale stuff from a day later?
P.S. @wissinomingdeadhead Just listened to 10-18-72 set II out on the frozen pond today - great varied setlist with a Dark Star>Dew to boot! Nice.
P.S.S. I see folks over at LIA are curious about the April '70 Poynette, WI festival gig. I wonder if everything from these tapes is already in circulation. I mean they have all been transferred before, right? Maybe I need to read the article again more closely, but are all the tapes being returned? From what I read there are 3 distinct owners of the masters, I can only remember it was the teacher guy that will be returning his stash. Someone please enlighten me...

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@matchewy

"June 16th, Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds at the Louisville Palace. I scored row E, center tix during a presale"

Got an extra? I know someone who's going, so I can get a ride... I can pay face for your extra! :-)

"I assume you are in Nashville? If so, have Pad Thai at Smiling Elephant for me!"

I live in Summertown just outside The Farm Community, but I get up to Nashville about twice a month, so I will surely check out the Smiling Elephant! They are just down the road from my favorite record store! (Grimey's)

"Ratdog played Indy last night. I didn't go, but some of my friends went. I didn't know until last night Steve Kimmock was with them. If I had known that, I might have made a better effort to go."

Yeah, the return of Wasserman coupled with Kimock is what pushed me off the fence... my last RatDog show was 5/9/03 at the Granada in Dallas, last Kimock show was 3/16/05 at the same place... I'd say I'm due.

"Tinariwen will play Nashville on March 18th. It would behoove you to attend."

As much as I'd love to, it's very hard for me to do a show on a school night (I'm an administrator at a private school on The Farm) and besides my music/recreational budget for the next couple of months just got spent on my RatDog ticket. But thank you for the recommendation! Please keep 'em coming!

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How about.....

For Dave's Picks Volume 10, 10/17/72 with the bonus disc 10/18/72 2nd set, or 10/18/72 with the bonus disc 10/28/72? Any suggestions? By the way near 70 degrees in Philly today, tomorrow a sub zero wind chill, definitely ripe for some cold, rain & snow in less than 24 hours! HAPPY WEDNESDAY, DEADLAND!!!

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Betty Boards

Love the box idea. And to those who have jokingly asked, but might actually be wondering, I am not Rob Eaton, nor do I know him, and DSO does not really interest me, but I wish I had his access to those reels!

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Maybe not so mind-boggling...

Maybe it is not so mind-boggling to think that the band had the opportunity to get those tapes in 1986, but essentially passed. Bear in mind that the band didn't tape their performances with commercial considerations in mind - they had no plans to release any of the tapes, they were mostly recorded for their own analytical purposes. As the first archival release, "One from the vault", did not appear until 1991, 5 years later, it is quite possible that they had no plans for the vault material in 1986 so why would they be interested in getting hold of a bunch of tapes that they had (at that time) absolutely no use for.

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"The Betty Board's Box"

Would be better.

Please remember they do not pitch correct series releases.

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Betty's Boards

I love Betty's Boards as the name for a new series of releases using those tapes! It is mind-boggling to think that the band had the opportunity to get those tapes in 1986, but essentially passed.

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Betty Board article

Thanks Rob, interesting article. I seem to recall an excellent interview with Betty in the Taping Compendium (Volume II I think). Well worth tracking down. But I don't recall reading this before - and aside from the moral issues of what happened with Betty in the 80's, this just passage from the article blows my mind (the second sentence in particular):

"Unable to foot the bill at the storage center, Cantor-Jackson forfeited the rights to her worldly possessions. She remembers contacting the Grateful Dead office to inform them of the situation, but the group took no action, resulting in a public auction of Cantor-Jackson’s personal assets, which included more than 1,000 reel-to-reel tapes."

I do hope they can figure this out and get them back to the Vault, release them (without fancy box set paraphernalia - agreed!) and compensate Betty Somehow. Someone in the Comments under the article suggested a series called "Betty's Boards" (like Dave's Picks). I like it.

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Worcester '88

Worcester '88 would be a great box IMHO.

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I love to read all the posts here. I agree with some, disagree with some, but I enjoy them all. It is a great time to be a Dead Head for sure. So many great releases rolling out all the time. What other band offers so much great music from the whole spectrum of the 30 year Dead run. Not too many bands even have a 30 year run to choose from!

One thing I know for sure though, a lot of us are true addicts. I am expecting the DaP10 announcement around April 1st. This will give us a month to talk about it before it ships. I have no proof for this, just my thought. But one thing is for certain, within 5 minutes of the announcement, there will be posts here wondering what DaP11 will be! Can't we ever stay in the moment an enjoy the current offering for just a little while before moving on to the next one? I am still getting into DaP9. I have listened to it countless times and continue to do so. I love to fully immerse myself in the latest release and really get to know it well. After all, it hasn't even been 6 weeks out.

Don't get me wrong, I am waiting with my breath held to see what DaP10 will be, but the anticipation and guessing what it will be is part of the fun. I know that for myself, I will love it, whatever it is. It may be exactly what I want, and maybe it won't, but I am a Dead fan and I trust that whatever Dave decides to lay on us, it will be good. Certainly a lot better then what most bands are offering in the way of archival releases.

Rock on.

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Thank you for sharing the article re: the Betty Boards. I hope all parties involved can work it out so there is fair compensation to everyone and the tapes make it into the Vault.

I saw Ratdog in Chicago Friday night and have to say it was a fantastic show. Bob looked and sounded really good and Ratdog is a fine band. Really interesting jams throughout. I haven't been to a Dead-related show for several years, largely because Further skipped the Midwest for the most part. This show was leagues better than the last Further show I saw (Allstate Arena a couple years ago). I wonder if Bobby may have gotten tired of playing the same six venues, no matter how beautiful, and that led to the end of Further. I understand Phil not wanting to load up on the bus and go across the country, but Bob Weir still wants to entertain the nation. Definitely catch Ratdog if they are coming to your town.

I wonder what the 50th anniversary may hold. I hope the four can bury the hatchet and get together again.

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Speaking of upcoming shows and Nashville...

I wouldn't mind seeing Edward Sharpe and the Magnetic Zeros at the Ryman this Summer.