Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT
We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.
3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014
Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)
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I skipped the 5/77 box and the 3/90 box because each only had 2 shows I knew I wanted and I couldn't afford the fight with the wife over the amounts of money involved.
I don't know if ItsBurnsy's statement has any truth to it, but I would spend the money on that box. There's 4 shows there I know I want to buy (79, 87, 89, 90)!
So I have it on no good word at all that this year's box will be named "Brent Era Dead" and include six full shows. The shows are:
12.1.79 - Pitts, PA
8.28.81 - Long Beach, CA
9.4.83 - Park City, UT
9.18.87 - New York, NY
10.26.89 - Miami, FL
3.29.90 - Uniondale, NY
Hell yeah, can't wait for the official announcement.
Is up with the best. Another nice one is from 6-10-73. The playin and eyes are excellent. Both shows are A+ with two excellent Dark Stars.
2-28-81 Let it grow > deal and 2-26-81 Tennessee Jed
1-10-78 drums > other one > wharf rat > franklins tower > around & around
2-28-70 alligator > drums > other one > masons children > Lovelight
They may have heard it in Santa Fe, but it was louder in Charlottesville! :o)
....stumbled across Black Sabbath's 13. Picked it up on a whim from an earlier post. Really good, better loud. But then again, isn't most good music? Spun in in my changer with Megadeth's also-named 13. Made for a good combo. Had the volume so loud, I bet they heard it in Santa Fe....
Two From The Vault has incredible sound for a 1968 recording IMHO. It's a completely rounded release. Wish there was more of this stuff! Kings Bowl DP & Carousel RT are grate releases but more so for the sets and energy.
IMHO, none of the DPs, RTs, and DaPs can compete with the Vault releases. Nor should they, given the differences in recordings.
The best sounding Vault releases to my ears are SSDD, Go To Nassau, Nightfall of Diamonds, and (although the performance isn't so great) Rockin' The Cradle. Also up there are the Winterland '73 box, Europe '72 box, and WAN. I found Cow Palace '76 to be off pitch, and the added effects on Fillmore West 1969 to be a turn-off. The lack of Phil on LAGTGD hurt it as well.
The first one that comes to my mind is the '73 Winterland box set. Awesome! Warlocks, DaP8, DaP9 & SSDD are not too shabby either.
...but thanks to Moses I didn't. R.I.P. Pigger...time for some old-school Fillmore East. Let it shine. let it shine, let it......cue awesome Dead jam.
...Rest In Peace brother! Taken from us much too early! Having a Dog Fish Head(beer forum,it goes great w/the Grateful Dead!) and listening to a little Pigpen playlist I put together. Back to this release, I think this release sounds great on all my devices(home,car,computer) and after several listens it really is a great show! On the E72 box I think Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Frankfurt sound the best. Great venues = great sound. I do agree that Dozin at the Knick and Terrapin sound better than the Spring 90 box but I love that box nevertheless. Its all good folks! Cheers to you all and waiting for some upcoming announcements Mr. Lemieux! As I have said, I dont care what they release, Dave has my full trust!! Take care folks!!
For claity, depth, full range of bottom end, mid-range and top end in no particular order...
Dozin' At The Knick
Without A Net
Truckin' Up To Buffalo
So Many Roads box disc 4
Crimson White and Indigo
Spring 1990 box - even with the Cutler live 2-track tapes sound superior to most 60's, 70's, early 80's and post Summer 1990 recordings
April Fools 88 Road Trips
VFTV 2, 3 and 4
....blew me away when it first came out, and still does. Second vote for Cow Palace '76 and Rockin' the Rhine. Third vote for Terrapin Limited. Maybe down the road, Santa Fe will be on this list. Are you hearing me TPTB?!
is stupendously intimate in Winterland 1973 Box Set...
wherein (as well) is one of the all-time great Dark Stars.
In response to an earlier post, no order, my faves for "sound quality":
Movie Soundtrack (especially given the source tapes)
Live/Dead and the big Fillmore 1969 box (love the warm, primitive punchiness)
Sunshine Daydream (a little distorted, but I thought we'd never see this kind of effort in mixing again)
Rockin' the Rhein, Hundred Year Hall and Steppin' Out (but not the big E72 box)
Cow Palace, NYE '76
So, I guess these are all multi-track sources. What can I say? I can hear the attention to detail on these.
Re 9/14/82: One of the greatest unheralded gigs of the '80s. Completely off-radar, and completely fabulous.
Re Magical Sound: One from the Vault (GAMH '75) gets my vote!
Agreed about Terrapin Ltd. Bought that back in the day when we still thought the premium price was actually going into the project. But I never regretted it - absolutely in my top ten releases in terms of sound quality.
Speaking of sound quality - what are your favorite sounding shows? Performance does not factor in, and really even straight sound quality (hiss, etc) is not what I man. I mean the overal effect of the sound - the insruments, tone, mix, ambience... the way it FEELS when hearing it, if you know what I mean. Here are my Top Ten in no particular order (could totally change tomorrow, natch):
Terrapin Ltd (3/115/90)
RT 4.5 (Boston 76)
DaP 8 (1980 matrix)
Dead Set (1980)
5/11/77 from the May 77 Box set
L&G the GD (April 1971 - yes there are tuning issues, but God, Phil's bass)
DP 13 (May 6 1981)
DP 22 (1968 - ragged sound, but somehow it is just so pleasing to my ears, that is a perfect release to me)
9/18/87 ultramatrix (unofficial)
9/28/75 Lindley Meadows (not officially released, but both the AUD and the SBD really hit my sweet spot in terms of sound)
Honorable mention 3/1/69.
The Peggy-O brought a tear to my eye. Man I miss those days
I checked out 9/14/82. Very Nice! Never heard it before. Nice matrix on Archive
Nevermind the subject... just musing...
Finally splurged on the Terrapin Limited CD set. Remember that one (3/15/90)? Limited edition of 10 million benefitting a project that seems to have fallen apart? In any case, the mastering job is just freakin' incredible - as is the show. Very, very highly recommended. Definitely a high point of the legendary Spring tour.
PalmerEldritch name-checkin' the Mickey's Bigmouth! We had an off-campus lunch period back in H.S., circa '82-'85. Three of us chipped in a dollar each, which assured each of us 2 Mickey's and a spot in the rotation for passing of the spliff. And reijo29, I too, miss the seeds...symbolic of a simpler time, that's for sure!
re: Cowboy Junkies...an interesting coincidence, as I am reading this thread, Natural Born Killers is on the bluray and I'm pretty sure the Junkies version of Sweet Jane was briefly accompanying Mallory doin' a little dance.
Finally, so as not to be accused of straying a bit too far, my obligatory Dead listening experience this evening consisted of Dick's Picks #35, the houseboat tapes, cued up to the 8/24 show (disc 3). As we know, DP35 is a shining example of the "barrel house" boogie that infected the music that year, but Phil's performance on this set, the 8/24 show in particular, is simply outstanding! His lines are brisk and creative, percolating so close to the surface, threatening to hijack the song at any minute, given half the chance! Check out the Cumberland or the Stephen>NFA>GDTRFB>NFA. Hot stuff indeed!
That Bobby played a Rick.... Be it ever so briefly...
Did know that Jer played a Guild... Have a Guild acoustic -- so I notice Guilds
Ricks are like Corvettes. A fine piece of Americana. Bobby rocked a Rick for a short time in '67. Wonder what happened to that guitar. I bet Bobby was a Byrdmaniac. He tells that funny little story in the Bill Graham book about catching the Byrds at the Fillmore and they were late and Graham threw a fit. Classic.
As a big Beatles and Byrds fan... Gotta love a Rickenbacker
Just saw that RS reviewed the DaP 9 show. They liked it, for what it's worth.
The '72 tour crate gets dusted off. A nice release. A real heart pounder. Hope we get one that gets it goin' the same way. In the mean time listening to Sonny Rollins in luscious 24-bit sound go way out west. If you like Little Feat go to LMA and find SBD's being posted right and left. Hint, hint. Please.
You know what else ladies and gents? I've been flying Jefferson Airplane a lot lately as well. There has been some real good live stuff officially released in the last several years. I like the contrast of the Rickenbacker 12 stringing of Paul with the Gibsonism or blues played by Jorma. Cool stuff. I have a thing for '66-'67 psychedelia and the jangle of Ricks'. Been digging the live Great Society disc too.
I, too,enjoy the organic nature of this thread. I often get great musical suggestions from this site(both Dead and non-Dead related). It looks like I have some more stuff to check out. A few notes:
-I downloaded everything that I could find for Earthless. This is great, jammy guitar work for twenty plus minutes at a stretch...
-I got the Cowboy Junkies' first album when I was in college. I was blown away from the opening track(Mining for Gold). I also remember reading that Lou Reed thought that the Junkies version of 'Sweet Jane' was his favorite
-I just heard the tail end of the Dave Mason tune "Look at Me, Look at You" the other day on Sirius Deep Tracks. I downloaded that one immediately.
-On a GD note, I was just listening to my iPod, when up popped up the second set jam from 6-22-73. I'd forgotten how good this jam was.
Another favorite band of mine, Nick cave and the Bad Seeds, a group of Aussies, is touring the US this Summer. The dates and cities are wide reaching, which is a rare thing for this group. Anytime I have seen them in the past, they only play a handful of US dates, and I have had to travel quite a distance to catch them (Chicago, New Orleans, Nashville). I am urging y'all to snatch some tickets for the upcoming (and quickly selling out) shows and see this band. Mos def one of the best live acts going!
I remember being at a Dead show at Deer Creek in 2003. I had a Bad Seeds tee on, and another head in the latrine line asked about them because he had never heard them. We had a short conversation, and I walked away with the impression he would be seeking some recordings out. I actually thought about this conversation when we all began discussing what we were listening to, and folks were commenting on finding new bands through Heads' suggestions.
It all comes around ("coming around, y'all") full circle. "You can't let go and you can't hold on..."
Yessss, I grabbed the Japanese SHM version of the Kinks BBC set, excellent! My wife is a Beatles nut, so I regularly make little comments about the Kinks being the greatest British Invasion band just to get a rise out of her. I do it playfully, but secretly, I actually believe it!
Black Angels mentioned-one of the best, if not the best, show I attended in the last decade was the Black Angels opening for the Black Keys in a tiny little club with great sound in Louisville, probably 2006 or so, back when Dan Auerbach had long hair and the Black Keys didn't play arena rock:)
I recently picked up the Kinks BBC import box set. 5 CD & 1 DVD. Highly recommended for any fans. Some great 70's live material. The Sleepwalker album is one of the best albums from 1977 IMHO and since we're always mentioning 1977 Dead.
I am lucky enough that I work from home on my computer, so the tunes are rolling all day long. Paid benefits are non-existent, but at least I get to rock all day long. I usually try to mix it up by listening to the Dead every 2nd or third album. (In the car it is ALL Dead). I have close to 2000 albums so lots to choose from. The last few things I listened to were Pearl Jam, Gregg Allman, Climax Blues Band, Hot Tuna, Bonnie Raitt, The Black Angels, QOTSA. Every day is different with some Dead mixed in. Last listened to DaP6 and Phil & Friends Instant Live from 7/7/06.
For DaP10 I am fully expecting more from the returned '69-'70 tapes. Nothing concrete to base this on but this is what I think Dave has planned. If not DaP10 then definitely 11 or 12. I hope we get an 80's or two release this year. The way DaP8 sold out so quickly, there is no doubt folks want this. I love it all and want music from all eras.
Cowboy Junkies... yes, what a great band. I had almost forgotten about them. Reminds me of some 20 years ago when I was living in northern Utah. A friend turned me on to them and also Rickie Lee Jones. Great memories of cold, snowy nights listening to music and drinking Mickey's Big Mouth. I couldn't get him to like the Dead, but he did like the Garcia/Grisman CD. I need to go back and revisit some of that music. I haven't listened to Cowboy Junkies or Rickie Lee in years....
Mary - don't move it :) I know what you mean - this is a nice organic discussion, doesn't feel "off topic" to me anyway. It seems to me that the latest "release" thread is usually a good place for these kinds of discussions to organically materialize.
Six Organs, great stuff. Also William Parker... hmmm, Neb, some of those others are not known to me, but based on the ones I do know, I'm gonna check that list out! Neb, if you like Parker, check out John Handy, especially at Monterrey Jazz Festival http://www.allmusic.com/album/live-at-the-monterey-jazz-festival-mw0000081959
Kinks, God yes. Speaking of "so much music, so little time" - I didn't get into the Kinks until about five years ago (!) (I'm 45 now). I appreciated but did not care for their early singles, though I did have some of their 80's stuff in high school (which I still love, Word of Mouth is underrated). But somehow I missed the golden age until recently. Village Green, Muswell, etc... and even a lot of the Sleepwalker era stuff. I literally didn't hear Village Green until I was 40 years old, which is kind of lucky in a way - NEW Music!
Speaking of The Kinks Village Green Preservation Society. One of my all time favorites. Maybe it's my imagination but does anyone recall an interview with Jerry where he talks about Anthem Of The Sun being a concept album but not in the way that The Village Green Preservation Society is? Both released in 1968. I might have dreamt this interview up because I love both the albums so much. I love musicians chiming in on their contemporaries. Grate discussion.
Alone Together is an album i have been meaning to get for a long time... thanks for reminding me!
so much music so little... time - don't mean to be a downer... but you know what i mean...
if you want the discussion moved to a different thread or a new one started, we can do that. I'm kind of liking the organic freeform of this thread, though, I've gotta say, and sometimes the surest way to kill a conversation is to move it. But speak up if you want a Margo thread, for example. It's perfectly doable. Thanks!
back in the day I saw Over the Rhine open for the Cowboy Junkies! Both great.
...what is my favorite guitar solo of all time?
It has to be the closing solo on the album "Alone Together" by
Dave Mason...in the song "Look At Me Look At You." Extremely
emotionally moving guitar solo. That whole album is stellar...and enhanced
by Leon Russell's immediately-recognizable sound on piano.
Not sure if you are into vinyl but I picked up the volume 4 heavy 180 gram reissue with a reissue of the original poster new for $15. Loved it so much that I ran back to store & bought Sabbath Bloody Sabbath & Sabotage. The Sabbath Bloody Sabbath has a gatefold cover that opens up with a huge glued in booklet of 12 x 12 Ozzy, Geezer & band photos. All the vinyls sound great, noise free with original of the times Warner Bros labels. Great way to listen to some of the heaviest music ever created. Used to roll j's off LP jackets, so the seeds would roll down. Whatever happened to seeds in weed or even watermelon?
I needn't say more.
Yes indeed! vguy72, love Vol.4! And to whomever was touting last year's release, 13, you are correct! Goes down as THE heavy metal album of the last decade!
On the flipside, I'm cruising serenely through Miles' Sketches of Spain at the moment. (origin of Spanish Jam!!!)
Also, many times the Japanese remasters precede new domestic remasters.
Man, the list got really good overnight: Cowboy Junkies, Six Organs of Admittance, Earthless, Paul Pena? All excellent! @Nebulorb, speaking of Six Organs, have you heard my other favorite Bay Area band, Comets on Fire? A member of Six Organs played with them before they broke up. Blistering heavy psych. I recommend "Field Recordings From the Sun".
Re: the Byrds, although the 96 remasters are out of print, you can pick up the latesy remasters on Blu Spec Cds' (Japanese hi quality releases using Blu Ray tech, but playable on regular cd players, complete in mini replica LP sleeves.). I just received the 2nd set to complete the collection. I think you can still get the individual albums on Ebay for not too much, $25-$30.
Re: Cowboy Junkies, I saw the CJ with Jimmie Dale Gilmore at Bogart's in Cincy in '92. I was about 16,I guess. Anyway, very dosed, GREAT SHOW with "Murder Tonight in the Trailer Park" closer that jammed on. I slipped through the back door after the show to meet Margo. Extremely anxious and not quite in my right mind, all I could get out was a request for one of her earrings. She softly said,"It's one of my favorites," took it off and gave it to me. I muttered thanks, turned my back and hastily skeedaddled outta there.
These forums get pretty good once we get past the anticipation of the next release, the reviews of the current release, the shipping and CS problems, and we are just kind of out there with nothing to talk about. Those other subjects are valuable, but the discussion gets rather fun in between.
Kinks "Village Green..." and Who "Tommy" on my way in to work, by the way.
Recent listens: Beachwood Sparks. Need some warmth here in New England. Neil Halstead, Everything this guy does is gold! Glad to see his old band Slowdive is back together for some festivals this summer. Also back on a Byrds kick after giving them a rest. Unlikely the remaining members will perform for 50th but the record companies definitely should dig a little deeper in vault and re-release the re-releases from '96. It would be nice to see the Sundazed Byrds vinyl releases issued on CD. Happy Friday. Peace.
I'll check out the Trio, but would mention that Hancock's Fat Albert Rotunda is the perfect "introductory" album for anyone interested in jazz.
I'm not familiar with any of those other artists you mention (you must have very eclectic tastes), but I do like Herbie Hancock.
Have you ever heard "Herbie Hancock Trio"? Really good stuff. Japanese import recorded in 1977, during the same time he was doing the VSOP Quintet stuff (also very good), but with just Herbie, Ron Carter and Tony Williams. Well worth checking out.
I was just about to post about Paul Pena's original version of Jet Airliner when I saw that Lunchbox beat me to it. It's great and that album is really good--he opened for Jerry and Merle several times at the Keystone, from what I've read.
The recent JGB/Bob & Rob box got me thinking: wouldn't it be great to release a box with Los Lobos' opening set with Jerry sitting in for the last song and the Dead's sets with David Hidalgo sitting in for a song or two? Not sure if it's everyone's cup of tea but I would love it.
I don't know much about Rory Gallager but I like that song, Do You Read Me. (Hey, Lunchbox, I've posted a couple times on your blog but I'm Mikemj there, not sure how to change that.)
Wharfrattx, very apt and funny comment about the Rush album.
Really enjoying all the comments. A few of my own:
Re: threads drying up (and some even disappearing) this is EXACTLY why this site needs a legit BBEdit style forum. What's here now is just sad and cumbersome. Come on gang. Find an intern from a local comp sci department to implement it for you. It really ridiculous how un user friendly this site is in this day and age.
But I digress....
One of my all time favorite albums is New Train by Paul Pena. If you haven't heard it do yourself a favor and check it out. Original version of Jet Airliner much different than the Steve Miller version. Persuasions do BGVs on Gonna Move and Jerry plays pedal steel on venutian lady. Cosmic mirror you would think might be Hendrix. And the song writing is superb. It's a shame he didn't get more recognition when he was alive. (Kind of like Rory Gallagher. Want something to blow your mind? Listen to cradle rock from Irish tour 74. Guaranteed conversion.)
Yeah Nebulorb, Margo and the boys are one my favorite bands. The Nomad Series was stunning. Have heard Mazzy Star. Not bad. Have you heard of an outfit from Cincinnati called Over The Rhine? A must hear. Have not checked out the new Sabbath album, but i've heard it's incredible. I also really enjoy The Flaming Lips and Los Lobos. Steely Dan ain't half bad either. This list could go on for a long time......Santa Fe?