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Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT

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We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.

Product Details

3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014

Listening Party

5/14/74, Missoula, Montana


"Weather Report Suite"

David Lemieux Volume 9 Seaside Chat

Tracklist

Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)

Disc 1
1. Bertha [6:15]
2. Me And My Uncle [3:15]
3. Loser [6:39]
4. Black-Throated Wind [6:52]
5. Scarlet Begonias> [7:21]
6. It Must Have Been The Roses [5:44]
7. Jack Straw [5:18]
8. Tennessee Jed [8:18]
9. Mexicali Blues [3:39]
10. Deal [4:46]

Disc 2
1. Big River [5:21]
2. Brown-Eyed Woman [5:13]
3. Playing In The Band [20:49]
4. U.S. Blues [5:48]
5. El Paso [4:44]
6. Row Jimmy [8:52]

Disc 3
1. Weather Report Suite [16:08]
Prelude [1:26]
Part I [4:32]
Part II (Let It Grow) [10:10]
2. Dark Star> [26:39]
3. China Doll [5:52]
4. Promised Land [3:46]
5. Not Fade Away> [6:15]
6. Goin’ Down The Road Feeling Bad [9:58]
7. One More Saturday Night [4:50]

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Usual WoS vocal issues

Would someone mind addressing this in a little detail... so that an average person can follow (for a non-Audio engineer anyway).

I certainly am familiar with them, having seen the The Grateful Dead Movie a number of times...

But why so bad as far as delivering vocals?

thanks -

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agree

there are many, better shows out there from this run of shows. but, this is a good show and we know dave is only gonna release a show he likes the "sound" of. plus what's in the vault ?? we don't know. i say this with a smile because i love wall of sound era dead,, there are some nights the band just stayed in 3rd. gear and never got to overdrive. they could sound pretty good without being great. lets hope going forward dave will focus on a "special" show and not just "special" recording and sound. i don't mind some hickups in the recording if the show is special.

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Mea Culpa + Dark Star

After my first couple of negative listening sessions, I re-read all the positive reviews and decided to give this thing another listen at higher volume. Sounds much better. Still features the usual WoS vocal issues (which really irritate me), but better than the average soundboard.

With regard to the meandering Dark Star: Sounds to me like Dark Star with a Feedbackish variation of "Space" tacked on. I understand "Space" as a setlist entity really didn't exist back then, but believe what often unfolded from DS was essentially the same thing... and it could go anywhere or nowhere.

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Broken hearts are for...

Okay, Wharfrattx, you've posted about this at least twice now so I thought I'd look into it a little bit. I'm not a particularly big Zappa fan but I looked up Broken Hearts are for Assholes and then played the beginning of Scarlet Begonias from DaP7. After going back and forth a few times I can hear it a little bit. The Sheik Yerbouti album didn't come out until 1979 although the song itself was recorded in January of 78. So do you think Weir was familiar with an unreleased Zappa song at the time of the Horton Field House show? It's possible that it's just a coincidence isn't it? I really don't know.
Speaking of Zappa, a lot of people compare Phish to the Dead but I always thought they were more similar to Frank Zappa, at least in terms of lyrics and studio albums.
Anyway, good excuse to listen to a little Zappa and enjoy Dap7 once again but now I'm off to listen again to this fantastic new release from Big Sky country.

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Vguy72

Appreciate your point of view. There are so many great shows to compare this to and may present itself as an average night, a snap shot in time. I myself have some sort of attachment to this performance and am pleased with the release. Hope your favorites are right around the corner.

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Import duties

Rogo,

Arrived in Manchester duty free.

Duncan

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Sub-par '74 Dead.....

Now, before everyone starts hating, I really, really, REALLY wanted to give Missoula high marks. It's just.....well. I cannot. Don't get me wrong. The sound quality is outstanding and Billy & Keith are spot on all night. But too many cons and not enough pros. The pros? Scarlet>Roses. Wonderful! I love the segue into a high tempo roses. PITB? The "off-tempo" return to the reprise is actually entertaining to my ears. Go Donna! Row Jimmy? Sweet. Weather Report? Really suite. Now the cons. Dark Star. I know, I know. Heresy!! Maybe there is a reason they retired it for a while. It seems like they were trying too hard. Dark Star can blossom into a unfurling rose, touch on many other themes/songs, turn into a ravenous beast or anywhere in between. This one kinda goes nowhere. I've listened to that track probably five times. Just doesn't do it for me, and China Doll, unfortunately, suffers for it. Want to hear a sweet '74 Dark Star? Pop in DP 7. London. Not Fade Away? Meh. Have heard much better. GDTRFB has some fire, but the fade out fizzles. Show doesn't seem to finish on a very high note, bottle to Bobby's head aside. The rest of the show? Average.
At this point. DaP 9 is my least favorite official 1974 release. That may change down the road. I'm still relatively young. DP7, 12, 24, 31, DaP 2 and RT 2.3 all eclipse it. (Am I missing any)? Anyway, looking forward to the DaP 10 announcement. Here's for some more 80's. And go U.S.A at Sochi. Did anyone catch Wagner's skating to "Shine On You Crazy Diamond"? Spectacular!

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Vol 9

GDTRFB. Wow! what a smoker. Anyone else like the 3/24/93 Spanish Jam>GDTRFB as much as I do? Happy Sunday to ya!

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Not yet in this part of Leeds.

Did you have to pay import duties?

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.correction.

March 1970, Dania Florida... Don't Ease, Cold Rain, Dark Star, St. Stephen. It's worth checking out.

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Thanks!

Just wanted to say thanks to all involved for this wonderful release. Sound is awesome. Have not listened to the whole thing yet but what I've heard so far is great!

Some random thoughts.

I am really enjoying the PITB! It locks into a groove early and hangs on to it. The re-entry is even kinda cool-made me smile: It's as if the band got so into the groove they lost track of time and space.

I also smiled at the "sweet Suzie" line in Loser, unexpected at this late date. One of those lyrical variants that adds a little something to the mix when it crops up. Kind of like "for to fire the still" (instead of "just to fire the still") in early versions of Brown-Eyed Women. I'd be interested to hear if anyone keeps lists of which shows have these alternate versions. Another one is the full version of And We Bid You Goodnight, with the verses ("Tell 'A' for the ark," etc.). Offhand, I think they did this on 11/8/69, 2/2/70, 5/2/70, 11/11/73, and 9/26/91, but it would be cool if someone had a list of them all.

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So Awesome!

Stoked I ordered this at the last minute. There is really nothing to critique about this show. I was suprised at how much I enjoyed this Playin' and realize, "There's other Playin's out there from this era... Must listen!" This Dark Star is exceptional and should be in all of our collections. Sound quality is perfect, just enough audience in those quiet moments. I was introduced to this show on GD Hour around 1993(?) and taped it and cherished it for years. It was the first China Doll I ever heard and really exposed me to the power of the Dead's harmonizing and Jerry's finesse as a musician/vocalist/player/band leader all at once. Anyway...

I enjoy these recent posts. Yes, more 1970, with or without wooden music, I'm all for it. I have a portion of a show from Florida in May and it's unreal (Again taped from FM, that was the best I could do then).

Cool references to Without A Net. It's fun to breakout the classics and now wishing I still had a copy but gave it away. I remember the Cassidy and Bird Song, Eyes with Branford, and an energetic Chinacat Rider. That foldout poster had nice artwork.

Gainsville, yes. The Drumz is so good. Love those spooky bells!

I'm on board with Dave's 7 and 8. Both money well spent and will see much use.

Dave's 9. Welcome to my little life. Thank you so much GD, Dave, Rhino, all who made this possible.

Go outside and blast the Dead for strangers!

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Another Spectrum '89 vote

I procured a sdbd FLAC set of 10/19/89 last year via kind internet people and the Dave Barfield aud of 10/20/89 from LMA. By judiciously deleting some "dead air" from each first set, and 3 songs from 10/20 (I chose Jed, Pocky, Brokedown), I was able to compile a 313 minute 4 CD set.
Both shows are full of 10/89 power! 10/20 has an amazing '69 meets '89 sequence of Other One Jam (14 minutes) > Drums/Space (21 minutes) > Take You Home (oops!) > The Other One (11 minutes).
So I say bring on Spectrum '89! Or a Fall '89 box with 10/26 ! and 10/22! but definitely 10/26 (wowser!)!

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#9 #9 #9 #9 #9

I like it. Sounds real purty. Good choice, Dave.

What's next?

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#_______ Arrived in CA

Received my copy of DP9 two days ago and there's no number on it - "LIMITED ADDITION:_____________"
Really just happy to have the high quality sound that comes with the DP series and have enjoyed this latest one from begining to end a few times already, but I am a bit curious.....is the DP9 I have pre 00000 or post 14000?
Happy listening!

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6578 Arrived in UK ....

Nice surprise this morning ..... DP#9 dropped in the porch, here in Leeds, UK. Wasn't really expecting it for another couple of weeks. So glad I went back to Dead.net this year rather than Spin, for the subscription. Fabulous show ..... just getting into it now. Looking forward to number 10 !

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Spectrum 89

Turn's 25 this year. ;-)

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Now's The Time...

...for whoever threw that bottle--that made Bob Weir say, "Thanks a hell of a lot," to come forward and identify him/herself. Don't worry...it's part of history now, no one will castigate you...what's done is now etched in grateful stone(d). So...if you remember at all...who are you? Who are you who threw that bottle?????

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I finally received my copy in

I finally received my copy in the snowy Midwest. I don't know what to say about all those complainers...I guess some people will always find something to bitch about. The sound is phenomenal. There IS audience presence, just subtle enough that it is not distracting. For comparisons sake, just dig up your ancient copy of Steal Your Face, blow the dust off the cover and listen to anything on there. Then listen to anything on here. Both 1974 Dead, but a WORLD of difference in the sound quality. If you think the sound is not good enough on DaP9, you are kidding yourself. Or your speakers are blown. Whatever.

I think I actually prefer the Playin jam to the Dark Star; it's just more cohesive. But then I'm sure more listens will cause that opinion to swing back & forth like a pendulum.

Keep em coming, Dave! You're doing an excellent job. My humble suggestion - Pittsburg 7-6-87, if it's in the vaults and the Nevilles will play ball. That's an extremely fun show.

Adios

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I finally received my copy in

I finally received my copy in the snowy Midwest. I don't know what to say about all those complainers...I guess some people will always find something to bitch about. The sound is phenomenal. There IS audience presence, just subtle enough that it is not distracting. For comparisons sake, just dig up your ancient copy of Steal Your Face, blow the dust off the cover and listen to anything on there. Then listen to anything on here. Both 1974 Dead, but a WORLD of difference in the sound quality. If you think the sound is not good enough on DaP9, you are kidding yourself. Or your speakers are blown. Whatever.

I think I actually prefer the Playin jam to the Dark Star; it's just more cohesive. But then I'm sure more listens will cause that opinion to swing back & forth like a pendulum.

Keep em coming, Dave! You're doing an excellent job. My humble suggestion - Pittsburg 7-6-87, if it's in the vaults and the Nevilles will play ball. That's an extremely fun show.

Adios

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gainesville's first rule

why? Great show, would love to see it and the other 2 shows from that mini tour in florida released.

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Snowing in Montana

As the snow falls here in Bozeman and I prepare for a second listening of DaP9 I've got to do one thing first.... Thanks for everything you do Dave. You've got the Montana Heads very grateful today. Much love and big thanks from the Big Sky Dave!

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MVP

My choice for MVP of this show would have to be Billy. His kit sounds great and he is on fire!

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Think those three minutes in

Think those three minutes in Dark Star are scary? Check out the pic at the back of the booklet. Look at the scary face on Bills drum between Bobbys elbow and the mic stand. I seeeee yoooouuuu!!!

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Fall '89

...and you really can't go wrong with Fall '89.

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Without a Net Cassidy

Oh man, I have always loved that version! I agree, a Spectrum '89 box would be out of this world. The boys always shone at the Spectrum!

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Without a Net "Cassidy"

Is from Spectrum 10-19-89.
A Spectrum '89 Box would be nice I'd love to here these show's from a crisp clean sbd source.
Thank you.

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Tanks for the memories...

I think I will bust out Without A Net this weekend. Thanks it sounds like a Grate idea. I remember one summer in the early 1990's that cd along with One & Two from the vault, plus the Evening with the Allmans were in constant rotation. Two from the vault has incredible sound and energy. Hell I may revisit them all again this weekend in between DaP9. Thanks.

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80's please.

I buy and really, really enjoy just about every GD release. I don't get out much so I look forward and appreciate each time that new package comes in the mail. That being said, for me DaP 8 was by far the best release in a while. Currently listening to Dick's Picks 6. So if anyone is listening more 80's please!!! Respectively yours, the Giant Nerd.

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80's please.

I buy and really, really enjoy just about every GD release. I don't get out much so I look forward and appreciate each time that new package comes in the mail. That being said, for me DaP 8 was by far the best release in a while. Currently listening to Dick's Picks 6. So if anyone is listening more 80's please!!! Respectively yours, the Giant Nerd.

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#2392

Really like the Dark Star, like a hell of a lot, except for the 3 super spooky minutes in the middle where I hid under my covers, whoa. The board is crisp-keep those coming. Nice start for this year's releases. Go Hawks.

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Without a Clue?

I am loving DaP9! In fact, I have loved the whole series from #5.. (and the first 4 were nothing to sneeze at either!) However, for some reason, I have found myself craving something to augment my 'Dave(the70s!)' vibe, and I found myself digging out "Without a Net" tonight. I don't ask that anyone follow suit, but I do ask when was the last time you enjoyed that 'Cassidy'? It is beautiful....

PS - Montana RULES!

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Beantown is rockin'!

#8203 arrived today in Boston! Looks like it's a music night!

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Some Food for thought !

70 Dead with or without acoustic set and why? my opinion aside, interested to know what fellow heads would say on the subject? as for the new release I decided to wait for tonight or tommorrow what ever suits me better in the moment, either way it will happen this weekend. as for my thoughts on this show to be continued.........

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Wo, oh, what I want to know...

Where does the thread go? Dave's Picks 10, looking forward to the announcement.

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I think...

...that Vguy72 maybe onto something.. I believe the dead were looking for the sound of thick air..

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Update on lost shipment...

From this morning's CS confusion, to direct contact with Dr. Rhino this afternoon, once again the good doctor has come through and fixed things. Doc has assured me a NUMBERED copy will be sent immediately.

Rhino should thank their lucky stars they have folks like Mary E. and Dr. Rhino around. They do the jobs of 100 CS reps!

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Thank You!!!

I can never thank you enough.

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Montana Deadheads

Fear not a lame weekend my fellow Big Sky Deadheads,for it has arrived today!!! Bust the good headphones out and turn off the cellphone. It's grooving time!!!

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was it the elevation?

...or is this one of the most laid back, mellowist shows I've heard? Just a handful of rockers to be sure. Not knocking it, just an observation. Will require more listenings to truly appreciate for sure. Just didn't grab me the first go around. I've also been a little under the weather, so that may have something to do with it. Montana is big and wide, and so is this release.

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Zuckfun first disc

Zuckfun, I was glad to read your comments about the first DaP and especially the first disc, since that release got a relatively ho-hum reception here if I recall. I listen to that disc a lot. To me the drummers are more locked in during that first set that pretty much any other show I can think of. Even songs like TLEO just sparkle and the drums demand close attention...

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I concur...heartily

I've never really had the CS problems that others have. I ordered one RT that was shrink wrapped and missing a disc. CS took care of it and sent me a new copy. But I agree with the earlier post about this limited edition biz. I can only speak from my heart. I've been able to fill some gaps in my collection with some of the stuff made available by download now. I can live with not having physical sets especially the larger ones. The Dead is one area of my life where altruism rears its ugly head. To keep in spirit with the whole thing yah know. All this music should be made available digitally after physical release. It's absurd that people are getting left out of this. Other than getting the music ask yourself how you are benefiting? I'm willing to argue you aren't. Are you benefiting because you got #150 and not #13999. No. Are you benefiting because you are one of 14000 that got a copy of music that every fan should have access to and weren't on the side that gets left out. Maybe in your mind. And that my friends sucks. I buy them because I love the music, DL & Co does a good job, and you get a little break if you subscribe. But I very much dislike this Limited edition guano. I'm too old to believe that I'm getting something above and beyond what it is which is just good music. So put em up digitally for the rest of the folks.

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the 1st rule about gainesville...

is, you dont talk about gainesville

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P.S.

What about Gainesville?

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Dancin?

I have said that '73-'74 shows are mostly boring for me with only the big jam numbers as the highlights (not a big ballad fan and the lyrics and melody to Eyes annoy the hell out of half my brain). But this is a shining show and the big jam numbers are GRAND!
I love that bit in Playing:
Bobby's guitar: "Hey guys, let's segue into a Discofied Dancing In The Streets!"
Jerry's guitar: "Yeah, great idea, listen to this lead!"
Phil's bass: "I'm in! I'm in!"
Billy's drums: "I'm not doing this without Mickey!"
Keith's piano: "Uh guys, let's wait for Disco to be invented first, OK?"
Bobby's guitar: "We'll try this again in a few years!"

A musical journey defying both time and space...

And I LOVE hearing Donna feel the spirit!

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Much better characterization

Much better characterization Wilfredtjones! Englishtown onward can definately be seen as a preamble to 1978, though thankfully Bob's self-imposed slide tutorial seems to be absent in those fall '77 shows! Speaking of Bob, anyone pick up on his "Broken Hearts Are For Assholes" tease before the Scarlet Begonias on Daves #7?

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Time to vent...

So, after my second call to dead.net CS, I still have no information on how they will deal with shipping my order to the wrong address. When I asked how long until "further information" will be available, I was told 24-48 hours, the same response I received 5 days ago.

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mickey 77

mickey hart's (and the band's) last show before his car accident was 06/09/77 at winterland. the band did not play again until after his recovery until englishtown on 09/03/77. in the interim, bobby did "heaven help the fool" and jerry did "cats under the stars"

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mickey and 9-3-77

I believe Mickey was involved in a car accident causing the band to take a break after the June '77 Winterland run. I do not know the date of the accident, or the injuries he sustained. Anyone know if shows actually had to be canceled as a result? I do know the Saturday, September 3, 1977 Labor Day weekend show, greatly immortalized on DP 15 was the Grateful Dead's 1977 'comeback' show.

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Mickey and 9.3.77

Hi Wilfred. I've seen some else mention Mickey coming back during the Englishtown show, but I don't understand. I thought he came back for good in October of 74. Was he gone for a time in Fall of '77?