Dave's Picks Volume 9: Harry Adams Field House, U. of Montana 5/14/74 CD - SOLD OUT
We're kicking off Dave's Picks 2014 with a visit to the Wall Of Sound era. Dave's Picks Volume 9 features the complete show from May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. Highlights run deep including the second performance of “Scarlet Begonias,” a 22+ minute “Playing In The Band” that leans heavily on the band's jazz chops, and a second set jam of “Weather Report Suite>Dark Star” that contains some of the deepest jamming of 1974, and that's saying a heck of a lot! It also features one of only a handful of versions of “Dark Star” played in 1974, a song heading toward a long hiatus, and this one digs deep into some of the wildest spaces you'll ever hear. Rockers, ballads, and jams, 5/14/74 covers all the bases, with plenty of nuances to revel in, each and every listen.
3 Disc set
Limited to 14,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: February 1, 2014
Harry Adams Field House, University of Montana, Missoula, MT (5/14/74)
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How on earth did that leak out?
nice long Lovelight and Caution. Nice artwork, once again.
.....seems legit. I'm off the the Archive!!!
holy crap! is that real?
Congrats, you have found it!!
P.S. For some reason I think skeetermcskeets is the mole now...
DAVES PICKS 10??
THELMA, LOS ANGELES, CA
Looks good to me
I could not agree with you more- after Keith left - the whole thing started to slip - I was very disappointed with the Atlanta 1980 show -Playing in the Band had lost its groove- There was just something missing -maybe just chemistry --The 72 & 77 years are great because have an influx of quality material that make the jams interesting , unpredictable and jazz like - The band sound interested and in touch - I would really like Phiily 73- or any of the Betty Boards from 1977-New Heaven comes to mind-
Well, now that you mention it, those were "hot" shows. I did the first night and, to see my godfather, I left before the second show. Mistake of my life? Possibly. But to the cat's point on the ABB at least on the first day: they smoked the Dead. The GD had a tough daytime gig in a giant stadium and we got up real close and it was in the 90s and water scarce. Though the blotter was abundant, thanks to us. Caught a strong China Cat>Rider from the lip of the stage. I'll never forget that deranged fans were tossing things onstage, including, at one point, a lit M-80. Jer in those days would kinda rock back and forth without moving around much and this sizzling M-80 lands at his feet and in his mellow shuffle-in-place, he kicks the freakin' thing like a soccer star back over our heads, where it exploded in the audience! I shit you not. I was there. After a sun-drenched, parched day up close, we retreated to the stands and took another 1/4 blotter (it was 4-way, anyway) and the Allmans with Dicky up front and Chuck Leavell on piano and Lamar (?) on bass basically destroyed our minds. We'd never heard anything that powerful. Taking the accouterments into account, I'd bet that's one hot tape. So, I second that emotion on an RFK, 6-9/10-73 release. Mmmm, glad I got that off my chest.
Follow this thread everyday with the hope, like all of us, that Dave will step up with a chat to get us excited about the next release. The strategy of holding back and all these posts is probably marketing magic with the build up driving as all nuts. Love the the banter back and forth ,the theories on hints the love for some shows and lack of with others.
My hope, not that it amounts to anything, is we get a release not Brent. Ouch just writing that I could feel the lack of love, but that's what Brent does for me. Just watched the 82 show from Voodoo and just can't get his contribution to the band. That's just my view and hope that the lovers of that era get a release, but guessing anything from that era will be a one of, as it simply does not measure up to any pre-Brent in my mind, by a wide margin.
Won't go into specifics about what Brent didn't bring, but will point out there is a reason why TPTB have limited this stuff is obvious from my seat. There have been many advocates for these along with graphs, comparisons ect. to point out the hard numbers of sales that justify the popularity, but please, the dead were never about the numbers, thank god. Somehow, I've got a Rolling Stone magazine being sent to me and am in disbelieve of what the top sellers are. You couldn't pay me to listen to most of their top 100, but someone's buying it, so by the logic of interest, I must be missing something. Don't think so and the same from my seat with the Dead. The releases are the archives and if TPTB thought that releasing stuff from that era would add to the bands legacy they would have released in on par with the pre-Brent era. I'm believing they know it's simply not the case, despite the pleas for it. Hear ya and won't mind uncle Dave throwing one that way, but if it's anything resembling Without a Net it might never get a full listen. Hate to be the bearer or bad tidings but I lost my love of the band after Keith and Donna left.
June 20 1987 Greek Theater UC Berkeley Berkeley California
We sat on the right side of the sound board area at the lowest point.
I remember noticing a coffee table within the sb area, and it was filled with D5s and other such technological gadgets, all linked to the board by fat wires.
I had some tapes and knew folks with more, and, attending UCSC with Night of the Live Dead which would feature each night of this run over the following three weeks, was assured a quality copy from the radio broadcast, still I dreamed of a day when the most farflung show would be available to own.
Got my email about the Furthur Mexico run ending the available time.
And with the Dick's Picks, Road Trips, Dave's Picks and the Vault series we have begun the dream we dreamed one afternoon long ago.
As to when Dave will announce the actual setlist and video chat, well
DaP V2 was announced on April 11, 2012 and for DaP V6 it was April well it's in these comments somewhere but it's still ahead. So maybe we are waiting for the bracket to fall and maybe there are not too many (200) cds left to sell and maybe he's just diggin' Vol 12 so much he lost track of the time. What ever Whatever Whatever, I'm still getting the discs by the middle of May anyway, so play that dead music, freak boy !
How could a digital product be "sold out" Can't you just copy more? I came here with the intention of buying it. I would rather not go to pirate bay (where it is not "sold out" and takes about 5 minutes to download). Can you let people know if you plan on copying more of the file and then making it available for sale? I would happily buy a legitimate copy.
With commercial releases of all or part of about 150 shows(including the iTunes download series and DVDs), as well as about 40 downloaded SBDs and 10 favored AUDs, I know the collection has eclipsed my ability to circulate titles into a reasonable rotation when I rediscover DaP 4 as a 'new release'!!....good heavens, how does this sit unattended for about a year w/o play?!
Especially this celestial sequence from 2/13/70: Dark Star(29:41)>Cryptical Envelopment & TOO(30:07)>Lovelight(30:27)...
On the flip side...oh such blissful reunions! Though, I suppose I'd make the circuit more often if weren't for Floyd, CSNY, the Doors, REM, the Smiths, the Pistols, DK, Dylan, Zep, and about 300 years of Baroque and Romantic classical composition! TGIF(almost).../peace,kat
Mbarilla, glad you mentioned the December Thelma Theatre run. These shows are very good with a lot of unique versions of songs. I've had a CD boot of the 12/12 show released on Capricorn Records (CR-2023) for some time. It starts with Next Time You See Me, played a bit slower than normal, but by the time you get to the middle of the song, the tempo has been slashed to almost comical proportions. Oddly enough, I think it works great! The meat of the show however, is the 50 minute Uncle John's>He Was A Friend>Alligator>Caution! Interesting as well as entertaining as each song is performed in a manner quite differently than from other shows around that same time. Hmmmm, wonder what the inspiration was for doing so that night? Oh yeah, also a sweet High Time! Anyway, if you've never heard this or the other Thelma shows from December '69, they're worth tracking down!
Over on the Reddit GD site, Voodoonola himself commented on another's comment about the suspect quality of the matrix audio on his latest video(10/28/80). He agreed that it wasn't the best and said that he just wanted to finish that one so that he can move on to 12/31/79...I'm really looking forward to that one...
500 Grateful Dead signature Pono players are available right now! They will be sold out in a flash. Will come with two GD albums installed and a leather case, only 500. GO NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Right on. Alligator. I'm not thinking '70 or '71, I'm thinking '67 through early '69. Just a hunch. And maybe not until Dap #11.
I posted a few days ago....something must have got spilled on the master reels for the "5/1/14" release. Logic tells me that there is a reason for the announcement/seaside chat delay other than "keeping us in suspense" .
Thelma Theater December 69' run
Each night has a few treats
One full show plus bonus material could make a great release
For some reason, the Peggy O's from this tour really get me, Jerry's guitar is so strong throughout. My personal favorite is Huntington 4/16/78. The MOTB remaster of the soundboard recording is incredible if you can find it. Sitting here in Limbo, waiting for Dave to come...
Hoping that the next pick has a wild Alligator>Caution. Long overdue.
segan, thanks for the newest Voodoonola link. It actually got me to perusing other shows he's posted and I found 5/28/82 Moscone Center. I hadn't heard this "one set wonder" before. Good show, nice sound and footage, Wow! Any 1982 doubters out there should check this out. After a rough Alabama it picks up with a phenomenal GSET. I'm on GDTRFB right now (Jerry pickfest) and can't wait to see how Boz Scaggs (!) fits in.
In contrast to the "Dead never played well on big occasions" myth, I think these kinds of unique circumstances (this was a Vietnam Vet benefit) brought out great tight performances - especially around this time (I like the US Festival set too).
EDIT: Well, I loved this show UNTIL 'ole Boz showed up. Nice Walking Blues, but not a fan of the rest of it. His guitar sounds so... insistent... next to Jerry and Bobby's.
One long set. With a few cuts. First Candyman.. Friend of the Devil has lyrics that are different
Just finished 4-11-78
I can't figure out, terrapin, if it's the end or beginning, terrapin,
But the trains put it's brakes on, terrapin,
And the whistle is screaming, terrapin.
The Friend of the Devil from 4-11-78 is a nice piece along with Terrapin Station. In 78' the band had perfected a lot of tunes.
Check out the Peggy-O from 5-10-78 for those searching for a nice one. 9-25-76 as well. Both are excellent. Those May be my top 2
10/29/80 at RCMH. This is definitely something to pass the time while we wait on DaP 10...
I received it for Xmas this year. I enjoy it for the most part, as I completely despise commercial radio, especially the so-called 'classic rock' stations with their limited playlists and incessant ad spots.
The downside is that I experience a bit of 'burn-out' on GD music from time to time, and I don't get to show my physical discs (ie, the DaPs, RTs, E'72, etc) the love that I used to...
I was a two of the three September 79 shows and do remember the house lights being on. The later Fall through New Years 79 are indeed highly regarded. I would love to see more of these shows get the official treatment. The Alaska Midnight Sun 1980 Box Set is a very worthy idea too.
Regarding those MSG house lights being on: Some noticed that the band countered that Police/Fire Department demand with very intense playing. As I noted earlier there are a number of factors as why that 3 night-stand in September 1979 in NYC would be a great candidate for a Box Set even if the later Fall 79 shows might have pushed the envelope farther.
Here is a copy and paste of some comments here at dead.net from that run :
September 5 1979
would love to hear THIS show all the way through
look at that pre-drums list.
During the drum solo we kept looking at one another becuase we would have sworn that we heard a motorcycle. And then on our way out, there behind the drum kits was Steve Parrish's Harley! Unbelievable. It fit right in beautifully. Who woulda thought.
Wow...I took a train up from
Wow...I took a train up from South Jersey for this show. Got tickets on the floor through a friend of mine who knew a politician that was a Deadhead. Reading everyone else's comments brought back memories that I had forgotten. I defintely remember the house lights on a lot. I also remember too many people being on the lower level and basically being pushed out of my seat. But of course, the music was the important thing and it was great! The China/Rider was amazing. This was my one and only Garden show, as I spent most of my Dead shows in the Spectrum.
i was just remembering the house lights game
and though hadnt snuck to the floor the crowds in the aisles was the thickest i had ever been,
best friends girl friends bro passes out for a second gettin stiffled, and moved back up not too far but much easier to breath and to dance, and within a couple minutes spike was up lots of water and danced the rest of the night
he never partied or drank just the crowd and smoke so thick got to him
and the HARlEY DAVIDSON SCREAMING THROUGH the halls of the Garden during drums
i used to think of that every time bobby sang this in later years
cause when he's chargin his chopper
up and down your carpeted halls
you will think me by contast quite proper
nevermind how i stumble and fall
You are very correct
INTENSE....is the best way to describe this show. The crowd was wild. During drums......it got REALLY loud and a Harley Davidison was started up and reved-up behind the "Beast"
Very Different Show
The Garden was absolutely packed, it seemed most people from the top level snuck down to the lower level and moving freely about was absolutely impossible. The Dead walk on stage and open the show while the house lights remain on. The Minglewood is one of the most intense versions I have ever heard. The show continues with an intensity that is unsurpased and all the while the house lights remain on. Somewhere near the end of the first set, the lights finally go down to a thunderous applause.
Set 2 starts with the lights down, but the light show is kept minimal with only two purple spot lights illuminating the band. If you are ever fortunate enough to hear this rendition of China/Rider, most would agree it was long and intense. Not as refined as the Europe 72 version, but far more explosive. I think after Ramble On, Bobby makes an announcement about too many people have left the cheap seats and the Fire Marshall will turn the house lights back on if people don't leave the floor area. One minute into Terrapin, the house lights came on and remained on for the duration of the show. The drum solo was also different when Mickey and Bill invited some Hells Angels to play in the Beast. The late 70's version of NFA was a great time of jamming the beat for a few minutes building it up to the opening lyric.
The show continues with great intensity and even I was a bit let down when it came to the encore, the show never lost its steam. After the band left the stage, most people stayed in the venue and were screaming for MORE for a good 10 minutes until a member of the road crew made announcement that the band had left the arena and thanked everyone for a great 3 night run.
This was my favorite of all 37 shows I saw.
Hey Dave think about . . ..
Someone told me that the truck leaving the pressing plant was hijacked by a snarling fox-like creature. Expect them to trickle out on ebay in 5 years' time.
Do NOT want to start rumors, but just note that a delay in a Pick announcement could be due to a no. of factors:
A) Creating suspense on a release considered to be a blockbuster
B) A difficult personal life situation (illness, loss,etc) for a major participant in the release (Dave, Jeffrey Norman, someone else) that takes someone away from work or part of it for a while and delays a roll-out
C) A problem with the project itself (with the tapes, manufacturing, etc.- unlikely but possible)
D) Something else?
Life's complicated- maybe the delay is just a way of setting up a big surprise for a Pick, or perhaps instead there's been an unintentional intrusion of some kind.
On a lighter note, I'll throw in a plug for an early 80s release at some point in the not-distant future- I've always loved 9/21/82 (opening with PITB-Crazy Fingers!, plus amazing West L.A., Samson & Delilah, Drums/Space, Throwin' Stones, Good Lovin,' and Jerry and the drummers especially on fire that night) and 4/17/83 (strong first set, amazing second set- powerful Help/Slip, EPIC PITB [I don't think they've ever did another one that ended up quite where this one did], amazing and raucous space, sloppy but heartfelt 'Love the One You're With,' fun Wheel, etc.) I imagine the first show I mentioned may be ineligible due to the bass deficit problem from that era, and the second one due to an outside artist and sloppy song, but I recommend a listen to both of those shows if you haven't heard them before- great representations of the particular energy and spirit of that era, and of course, epic jamming.
Today in GDHistory 4-3-70 from the Buckeye state , looks like electric/acoustic/electric.
The last few days a few cuts from Without a Net. China > Rider 4-2-90 Atlanta
Dave brings some 86' to the airwaves. March and April Providence shows. Dave provides a cool story about his experience with an audience tape from the April 1 show. A friend gifted him a box of tapes with Fillmore East 70, February 73' Dane County show, 12-28-79, and audience tape of the 4-1-86 2nd set. He stated he received this box of tapes about a month after the show and it was the closest he had gotten to a recently recorded show. He mentioned how he played that 4-1-86 2nd set tape and wore it out. On SiriusXm He played the soundboard of that show instead of his gifted audience tape,
Shakedown > Estimated > Eyes, some very nice stuff. I do hope to hear the April Berkeley shows soon. Some nice stuff in those as well.
Upcoming SirisXm shows, and also a side note I have noticed a few from Sirius making the Daves Picks.
The shows with the **stars maybe future considerations. Although it may take awhile.
I also agree about the 11-24-79 San Diego show is a gem and Nov. Dec. 79 has some creative jams,
dj .... you are correct and i was. my statement was a reflection of hearing the same stuff at the same time over and over ,, sorry for the mis-representation, but i see you got my drift.
man i wish they would give the studio albums a rest for a year or so...way too much live material available to play the studio stuff as much as they do. this includes the solo albums, especially bobby's (no offense mr weir, but i've had all the heaven help the fool i can take).
also i noticed when my wife got a new vehicle that the date/city of the live tracks display on her radio screen, if you press the info button a couple times. it would be cool if they would/could put the playlist up on the website each day
1. The only way Sirius GD plays "80-90-%" 80s and 90s GD is if you factor out the complete shows each day and the studio tracks, which they play more often than any hardcore Head cares to hear. The daily live shows are often from the 1970s, although in the past year or so they have been playing a bit more from the 90s. In the early days of that channel it was rare to hear anything from the 90s other than WAN cuts and 3-15-90 release.
2. The post below about the end of 1979 is spot on. I have a group of friends I have been pimping the Fourth Quarter of 1979 to for years and last year they finally got it. Those shows are almost all special and the culminate with what I believe to be the greatest A to Z New Years run of all time. San Diego on 11-24 is one of the hidden gems, the Matrix (Seamons I think) circulating out there is sublime.
3. DP10, I definitely think it will be from the returned 70-71 allotment, however I have a hard time reconciling that with the Gans et. al comments from Golden Road that it will be universally praised. Even considering that there will always be complaints about a show selection, I am not sure there is a slam dunk "big show" in that era that would be above reproach. But let's hope I am wrong.
Maybe he just retired from Bobby...
Thanks for that CosmicBadger - are you going?
it just occured to me riding in to work this morning that i prefer my pandora dead station MUCH more than the dead channel on my sirius radio in the car.. that said for any one who doesn't listen to the dead channel on sirius ,,fyi ,,
it is a perfect outlet for 80-90's fans since thats 90% of what they play.
I also enjoy this documentary.
Still, I have a problem with its revisionist rewriting of history. The film gives the impression that Dead was the (by far) dominant band at the SF scene back in the days, though Jefferson Airplane was actually much bigger both commercially and as a cultural phenomenon in the late 60s. It is not really honest to reduce JA to a footnote in a documentary that also express an ambition to present a broader view of the the late 1960 San Francisco scene
The really important announcement today is that the Phil Lesh Family Band is coming to London for 2 shows in July. Been a long long wait.
NOLA jazz fest
I Know You Rider
miss u Heidi dog
Sorry 44Moose but once the basketball brackets come down, dead.net will surely put up a Frozen Four bracket. Go sweet Siouxy.
Like many of us here, I fully expected the next Dave's to be from the newly returned batch of tapes, meaning probably a '71 show or thereabouts.
Not so sure now but I've been influenced by all the guesses made here, including my own. Isn't it possible that the next Dave's will be some other era with the returned tapes (some of them anyway) coming out in a box set?
I'm up for any year but after that CRUEL 6-10-73 tease I almost have to convince myself not to be disappointed by anything else. Damn April Fool's Day!
Mozhead, Heaven Help the Fool is the first song that came to my mind that wasn't included on Reckoning.
All the talk here of '73 Dead made me bust out DP28 tonight, forgot how much I loved this one back when it first came out! The 25 minute Dark Star is wonderful-full of jazzy interludes and lots of interesting jams, and the Eyes on disc 2, as sloppy as it is, is magnificent. The boys sound so inspired. Really miss that feeling in the later years...Anyway, nothing new to add but if you haven't heard it in a while, do yourself a favor...
I did not realize it was you who proposed this idea which is a very good one BTW. No offense was taken or even noticed.
MSG NYC September 1979 and Alaska 1980 Box Sets!!!
Dave are you listening?
While indeed those shows were a big deal
when they happened, the shows which
would take place late October -> New
Years were a serious step up. I saw those
three MSG shows. The first night was the
best. The second two nights the Fire
Marshall/Police MADE them leave the
House Lights up at 100% for the entire
show. Candice's lights are not too
impressive when they compete with the
mercury vapor lights.
When they got to the Cape, Nassau and
Philly it was a like sports team that comes
out the 2nd half and just blows everybody
out of the water. If you want '79 Brent, go
for the refined stretch. The epic
Dancin' -> Franklins. He's Gone ->
Gloria Jam (finally CC Rider in Pittsburg).
Funky Shakedowns, elegant Peggy-O's.
As others have noted by the Spring of 1980
Brent had been reined in. Fall of '79 has a
sense of adventure that a lot of '80 lacks
until the Warfield/Radio City.
Hi deadegad - I was the one who brought up the Alaska 1980 box (I would call it Grateful Dead in the Land of the Midnight Sun). As you might expect from someone who likes 1980, I would also welcome a MSG 79 box. I was just ribbing you (in what I hoped would come off as good natured).
Heck, I've been lobbying off and on for that Alaska box for a couple of years, so I figured you'd know I was teasing...
Once the tournament is done they can then redo the dead.net homepage to include the announcement of DaP 10
If I recall correctly. the Radio City and Warfield 1980 tapes are missing or problematic.
The NCAA basketball final is on Monday night. Once that is over, the dead.net cover project brackets should be over and Dave and company can release #10. Hope it's sooner but I think they need to space out announcements to keep it fresh.
How about everyone's favorite band members birthday show when GD performed. I am going with 10-16-89 Weir. Was there and it's a live release.
How about everyone's favorite band members birthday show when GD performed. I am going with 10-16-89 Weir. Was there and it's a live release. Or 8-1-73
I don't know about the next few DP but as far as a future box set I'd love to see something done with the theatre run the Dead did that produced Dead Set and Reckoning. The acoustic sets were so beautiful, . Those two albums are such teasers in that I want more and more. I could see the art work done in the same vain as Dead Set...maybe housed in a miniature theatre box. Or kept simpler like the SD release, but keeping the theater theme. Anyone out there know much about songs the band performed on that tour other than what was released on the live albums.?
What I have been lobbying for is a New York City Madison Square Garden September 1979 Box Set.
There have been several San Fransisco venue box set releases -- all fabulous BTW.
The Dave's Atlanta 1980 sold out very fast.
People have been clamoring for more 80's.
There have been some gripes about large box sets lack of affordability.
With all of this in mind, I have been urging Dave to consider NYC MSG September 1979(almost 80s) for a box set. It is only three shows which keeps it affordable like the Winterland boxes. It is Brent's first MSG NYC show and I like what I hear at the archive. It is almost an 80's show --- Atlanta 80 sold out very quickly. It adds up to being choice-worthy in terms of commerce, saleability, and, history.
And performance strength?!?!
These were highly anticipated shows back then. Brent's first Big-League New York shows. . .. And they were great shows!!!
Maybe we will be able to hear the roar of that motorcycle parked behind the drums?!?!
Those are some of reasons and rational for considering an NYC MSG September 79 Box.
Cape Cod 79 is certainly worthy.
Someone mentioned Alaska 1980 which is also a strong contender.
saw Woodstock the movie this morning from 2 am till 6:10am, hadn't seen it in quite a while. The brown acid is not bad acid or "poison" it's just manufactured poorly. From what I saw, there was a whole lot of really good acid around for those 3 days.
too many good performances to even mention them all, too bad the dead's performance was not featured, that would have topped it off. Would have loved to have seen Bobby trying to sing as the current tried to blow his lips off. Good times indeed.