Family Dog at the Great Highway, San Francisco, CA 4/18/70 CD
Is it the Grateful Dead? Well, in name, no, but in music and personnel, heck yes! We’re very pleased to present a rare, unknown recording of the Grateful Dead from April 18, 1970, at the Family Dog in San Francisco, a show that was played entirely acoustically. This is available on vinyl as an exclusive Record Store Day Black Friday release, a 2-LP vinyl set limited to only 7,500 copies and available only at your hip, local independent record stores on November 29. Support them! For those of you without record-playing capabilities (what’s wrong with you?!?), we have made this available as a CD exclusively on dead.net.
So, what’s the deal with this show, and this recording? In May, 2013, Mountain Girl called to say she had a few reels of Grateful Dead music and wanted to return them. They turned out to be from 1970 and 1971. Jeffrey Norman quickly backed them up, and we were able to check them out. Sure enough, this was music we’d never heard before, nor knew it even existed. One of the coolest things in this small stash was the 4/18/70 tape. We knew the Grateful Dead shared the bill this night with Charlie Musselwhite, and the NRPS, but they billed themselves as Mickey Hart and His Heartbeats, and Bobby Ace and His Cards From the Bottom Of The Deck. What the tape reveals is that they played just one set, an 80 minute acoustic opus featuring some expected stuff from the era, plus some shockers.
Street Date: November 29, 2013
Complete 80-minute acoustic show which includes six tracks of Pigpen's solo with acoustic guitar.
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The cuts don't bother me. Its really the constant flutter and high hiss. The Pig tunes surprisingly have the best balanced mix (probably helps that its only solo guitar/vocal).
I get the toss up between releasing this or not. Recently discovered. Very early recording of "Dont Ease", Pig rarities on the last four tunes. A very early acoustic show considering how much of their format it would become later on that year.
Even for 17$ for the CD I feel like this is for completists (perhaps like myself) only. Bear's Choice, the Road Trips (5.15.70) release have much better sound quality and give a similar perspective of this time period of Dead.
Obviously we all wish there was more quality recordings from this quintessential period of Dead History. Sound anomalies may turn off even some of the more patient listeners.
As of Sunday 12/1, there was still a copy or two at Hot Poop in Walla Walla, WA.
Sunrise Records at 336 Yonge St. in Toronto had a full rack late yesterday afternoon. It was more expensive that what I paid at Soundscapes but the copies are there & they probably do mail-order.
Walked in at 7pm yesterday to see what was leftover with absolutely no expectations. They had at left two copies left; I got one. Give them a call this morning. They probably still have it, and they would probably work out shipping.
Reckless records in Chicago had several copies when I was there this morning. I was able to snag one. Call them to see if they still have them. It was only $35 too.
Nothin' Doing at my Local Record Shop on this release ON VINYL. All Sold Out with what little stock they were given to hype Record Store Day Black Friday.
Barter/Trade: I have a SEALED spare copy of Dave's Picks VOL.7 (4/24/78-Normal Ill.) to trade straight up for your SEALED VINYL copy of Family Dog San Francisco 4/18/70.
Please DO let this deal go down...
shwack in nh
I plan on getting a copy if available at my local store. I saw an online pic of the store shelf they had copies available and also Winterland 71'. I just wish they had thatEurope 72 Dark Star from Paris. I bought Sunshine daydream vinyl at same store and double sided poster was included. Can't wait for tomorrow morning. From what I read use 3D glasses to view album cover art
If you are in Chicago area and want to get this album on limited edition 180 gram vinyl, check out our shop Sunshine Daydream Hippie Shop on Record Store Day Black Friday. We are located in NW suburban Lake Zurich, and will have limited quantities of this release as well as other RSD releases coming out that day. In addition, there will be a store wide sale going on all weekend in our hippie shop.
Blewin, if you scroll back a few you will see my opinion on sound quality of this release. Of course, many folks will think the rarity of the recording and event itself will offset a serious lack of fidelity, and I can understand that. I was hoping for much better.
The second pressing of "Rare Cuts and Oddities" is actually limited and less than 1000 copies left. I didn't realize it would be a limited run. Based on that, I assume this cd will also end up a limited run, eventually. Better get it while you can!
There are a lot of Titles and Tracks I've never heard. I am surprised by the comments to the effect this is the same as the other great accoustic releases already out there.It seems to me that the differences between versions should be most apparent to those who listen to the music most often. They should be perceiving the most subtled nuanced changes and differences. There were similar remarks about the Who Live At Leeds and the newly released show the next day. If you listened to the Live at Leeds show many times, and presumably you have, if you buy the show from the next day, you should hear a very different show, despite the similarity in the setlists. I'm curious what others think.
While we are talking sound quality, has anyone downloaded American Beauty or any other Hi Res from HD tracks. I am wondering if the differences are audible. Assume nice stereo listened to with 60 year old ears with some loss of acuity from exposure to loud music.
You can call this release "Dave's Picks Volume 8.5"
Too bad the Winterland 1971 album wasn't released on CD. Hopefully someday when it's re-released, a CD version will come out.
but the bustin of Bear by mostly Weir about the monitor level or lack thereof-this is a priceless snapshot into the early days before the scene got too big, costly, unruly and big time and dare we say it-professional( for the Dead)or more jaded.
what an unexpected pleasure to get this so quickly ... i guess the prankster is coming out for many.!. as we all fill out our collections we can share our preferences and hi and low points and remember ,, to each his/her own. i'm glad we are all riding along together ;;; what a trip !
Yes this is enjoyable for a 2013 find. But it's not different from Bears Choice (73)& remastered (2003)or Dicks Picks Vol-08 (97).
Both great acoustic Dead recordings.
To start with, this is not up to the audio quality we are use to. That being said, I love this!
It is so different from anything else they have released. Keep the variety coming, this is what makes being a fan fun, you never know what gem will come next. Bring on Dave's 2014!
Thanx for the calming words and you are right I'm a serious ebayer (collecting now is FZ vinyl from everywhere) and a relatively short time after ltd ed are sold out the price stabilizes. Not only that except for some specials like the bonus discs and your Fillmore mention the prices usually don't go to high. Oxford It ain't whining when for the 1st time I can remember that a release was not announced on the home page of the website, you have to dig through the Almanac, and in case you haven't noticed not everyone gets e-mails at the same time
Do people really like this release? The audio quality is decidedly lo-fidelity. I'm sure the tape hiss has been reduced, but nothing has been done about the wow-and-flutter (which is a crime since that is what Plangent is supposed to do and it wasn't even used) and the distortion can't be cured. The instrument balance is a mess. Sure, it's great to hear Pig solo, playing some unexpected songs. But if you want to use the word "over-rated", save it for this one.
Just short of 2 weeks before the 'release date'. Nice addition to the collection.
Just sit back and reflect, with a glass of red wine: "What a terrific year this has been, being a dead head / GD collector..."
DaPs 5-8, ranging from stunning(6) to unexpected pleasure (7), and from unbelievable playing and sound (8) to another edition from a great era (5)
May 1977, what can one say other than that it is not Barton Hall
SSDD, somewhat overhyped perhaps, but another great '72 concert, with the added benefit of video, and now
MH&HB plus BA&HCFTBOTD, great acoustic dead. You can HEAR that they intend to stick to the acoustic format (probably brought no electric gear with them anyway), sounding relaxed and comfortable, and nicely sharing vocal duties.
Bring on 2014!
Ordered this a few days ago and can't wait for it to arrive!
I was a little surprised to see the complete setlist in my handy copy of Dead Base V(which has served me faithfully since 1991!).
I suppose some of those shockers mentioned in the item description weren't really shockers after all.
Don't worry at all, my man. As you can see, the order button is alive and well. The "Sold Out" message was a transient thing when this item fist started shipping early. As far as anyone can tell, the CD version is not limited. Of course that comes with the caveat of previous releases not listed as limited actually being limited.
Many of the non-limited releases come and go in availability. When I got around to ordering "To Terrapin", it was sold out. Folk had it listed on Amazon for $50 or more. But, I was patient, and my patience was rewarded when Rhino pressed more and I paid $20 right here on this sight. We all need to remember that although affiliated with WB, Rhino is technically an independent label. They don't seem to stock the warehouse full of constant supply of Dead releases that sell big when first released, then sit rather dormant. I think this is the reason behind limited editions now; the demand fades quick, and they don't want to be stuck with extras. The good thing is these releases seem to hit a plateau in aftermarket price, so there is no harm in being patient if something becomes unavailable. Non-limited items often become available again, and limited items sometimes dip in price. I haven't seen any real increase in aftermarket for the Fillmore box in years, for example.
Bottom line: everybody relax, Family Dog is available for now. If you can't get something now, save your scratch and you will surely be able to get it later. We can all save our hysteria for Black Friday RSD!
Like others I received notice of this only a couple of days ago. As with all releases I bought it right away. Pre release fine OK. Then I go to the comments and see people are already getting them and it's sold out ! WTF. I know I'm not the only person who has loyally bought everything who feels we should at least get an equal chance no hidden sales etc. Ltd Ed I get it but everyone gets a chance it's not hidden but this not fair. As for the Vinyl I'm used to ebay for that we don't all get 2 days off at thanksgiving
I got one on eBay last week for 30 bucks as a BIN. WOW!!!!! I'm very impatient and got rather upset when it sold out last week, I just had have one, so I went to eBay and got the only one being offered as a "buy it now", there have only been 5 offered for sale since last Tuesday. I'm glad I couldn't wait this is INCREDIBLE. A nice mellow set of tunes. I thought SSDD would be my highlight release of the year this one easily earns that honor. I always doubted the existence of these shows but to have one in my hand removes all doubt & has me wondering what other tapes got returned to MG? Talk about saving the BEST FOR LAST!!!! What will 2014 bring & let's not talk about 2015 not only will I turn 50 so will the good ole' Grateful Dead. Now off to see Phil Lesh at the Tower. I will be listening to this on the way. HAPPY TUESDAY, DEADLAND!!!!
.....the cover is 3D when you view through 3D glasses! Not so much the skull man himself, but the spade he's inside of & the roving line that separates the various mini-sections of the design jump out from those sections (and glow) in a psychedelic way.....fun stuff. Note: you need the classic red & blue 3D glasses. The grey-lens post-modern ones don't work.
What a special treat this is! I'm only at Friend of the Devil as I type, going to sit back down on the couch with purring cat and continue listening..... (Just a perfect Saturday afternoon thing to do.)
Mustin, I really hope your Dave's 8 arrives soon (today?)--you're gonna love it.
Arrived in the mail today. Here's the problem as I see it. The USPS tracker still shows it as sitting in the Black Hole of Hebron KY. That is what causes so much frustration. USPS and UPS do not update their sites in a timely fashion. It is not Dead.net's problem, it is just something to keep in mind when we are feeling twisted over waiting for a release. Have a Real Grateful Day!!!
The day after I ordered this disc, I got a shipping notice. I thought that was somewhat odd, a couple of weeks early, it must be a mistake. No mistake at all, I got the disc on Thursday, after playing it 4 times, I love this show. A bit more looser than I would expect, but then the actual show of 4/18/70 was billed as Mickey And His Hartbeats / Bobby Ace And His Cards From The Bottom Of The Deck, so the Dead were much more freer to do what they wanted.
This release is advertised as an 80 minute show, this disc plays 72:37, 5 minutes short by my standards. It's the contents that count, and they're great! I especially love the Pigpen songs.
Is it my eyes or a bad printing of the cover?
I don't have a pair of 3-D glasses, but this looks like 3-D glassed would enhance the cover art.
Interesting backstory here (http://lostlivedead.blogspot.com/) on the Family Dog shows 4/18 was drawn from.
I just ordered one...no indication of this being limited or sold-out....Where are folks seeing this info?
Can't wait to have my own listening party...You are all invited, of course!!
Got mine today. good mellow stuff. Was wondering if anybody had lossless files of road trips 3.3 that they could send my way... I'd be very grateful
I did get a shipping notice first, which I thought was a mistake too. I think there may be a little more tape hiss on this, compared to RT and DP8, but not much. It sounds good enough to me. Id almost be happy with just the 6 Pigpen songs.
If you received a shipping notice, there should be a tracking number. Use USPS tracking to track it. I received mine, and they are shipping early.
It is good; I think on par with DP's 8. In terms of sonic quality, definitely.
The Speedway on this Great Highway is KILLER !!! Jerry's vocals are great throughout. The Pigpen set is priceless . Thank you folks this is really a rare treat.
The cover art on this CD package is Beautiful. If you put it on a nice heavy, white T-shirt I'll buy Three. Lets see more merch with a classic look Family Dog, Mouse, Griffin, etc... We will buy it.
Please, Make the shirt. Really.
Mustin321, Did you get a shipping statement first? I got one the other day and think it's a mistake, in that it's too early. If I get the disc in the mail this week or next week I will be very suprised and very happy.
Did you listen to it yet? Is it on par with disc 1 of Dick's Picks 8 (5/2/70) and Road Trips 3.3 (5/15/70)?
Went back to the River City for Black Crowes at the Louisville Palace last night, swung by the ol' home place and picked up my DaP8 and Family Dog that arrived this week.
Crowes show was pretty good, Jackie Greene on lead. Cover of "Torn and Frayed" made my day, along with the "Good Morning Captain" show opener.
Family Dog sounds great; rough and raw, stage banter worth price of admission. Got through "Deep Elem". I am really digging the vibe.
in the mail yesterday...way earlier than I expected...still waiting on DaP8
in the mail yesterday...way earlier than I expected...still waiting on DaP8
not sure what the fuss is all about i ordered today and got a confirmation .. don't see any where that says anything about back orders ... still in pre-order mode .. all ok
I just got one off eBay as a BIN for 30 bucks. I thought eBay would have a ton of these up for auction by now, it's 4:43pm EST & as of now there is only 1 up for bid. I checked a little while ago & there are 35 DP 8's available & only 1 4/18/70. Is it that limited or that good?
I guess this is the part that people are missing. The vast majority of releases in the past few years have been "one time events" Sure, they could continue to print thousands of copies, house them in anticipation of selling them or they can run a lean operation, knowing their sales, knowing their costs and moving onto the next project. I like this model because it is providing us with a consistent stream of product with a variety to pick and choose.
I have seen the posts on other threads and you are correct, they are getting pretty tense. Not wanting to create any more, just hoping that people will start to find the rhythm of the current scenario.
I am sorry, but you are comparing one time events with limited seating to a product that can be replicated hundreds of thousands of times. If people are bummed because they did not get a copy, I understand.
The complaints about this incident are pretty tame compared to other threads like DaP's.
My disclaimer again, I got a copy. It's arriving today. However, I still feel for the folks who thought they did not get a copy. Fortunately, the sell out was not accurate.
I will apologize up front if anyone is offended by the following...
This release was prominently announced in the Almanac which was sent out via email and available on Dead.net. It was at the same time as the 2014 DP subscription. There was no mystery and no deception. I am guessing many of us ordered both at the same time. Granted, the website and the shipping process are a little messy. In this case, Family Dog arrived 3 weeks PRIOR to the original shipping date. Win some lose some. To those who missed out (if this is indeed truly sold out), too bad. Not sure when you were on the bus or which coast you were on, but back in the day, getting tickets to shows was a chaotic, exhausting process of guessing on-sale dates, sleeping on side walks and tickets selling out 20 minutes after the doors opened . After a while, the pattern sank in, aided later by the mail order system, etc. So with this in mind, the current pattern has been pretty steady for a couple of years. Just look at the current system as the East Coast tour schedule. You will start to sense the new releases before they are posted. Check dead.net regularly, open and ready any kinds of newsletters and almanacs, don't hesitate to order. As Eileen Law said steadily for many years "Thank you for calling and stay in touch!"
just wondering if this also means that the 17th and the 19th were also among the tapes that were returned.
On me too; just ordered!
Once SOLD OUT is now available AGAIN!!! A GREAT BIG THANK YOU to TPTB!!!!!!! Ordered NOW!!!!
A day late, with a fist full of dollars. More, PLEASE!
Hoping for a great 1971 release this year from the returned tapes! I don't know what it is about '71, but I really love it. It's not the typical jamming I love; it's the band in a retooling phase. But, the playing is so solid with great energy.
I'm listening right now, sounds really nice. You can tell its an old recording, but it still is classic Grateful Dead. Jerry sounds really sharp on FOTD. The crowd in the background sound really calm, little did they know they were becoming part of Deadhead history. The band is chattering a lot to each other, fussing at Bear. Big Thanks to all involved in getting this out to us heads. Please keep it coming.
Looks like mine is due to arrive at my house tomorrow. Hopefully since no promise of limited editions was made, TPTB will be persuaded to press more.
A show like this should not be limited. I am fine with unlimited copied being pressed. Leave the limited for the RSD vinyl release.
That sucks! The only way I found the link at first was through the Almanac. Someone on the DaP thread mentioned already ordering theirs. If that person had not have posted that, I would never have known. Then, I've found it through the Store>Music tabs.
Absolutely ridiculous that members did not get an email or even a headline on the home page.
I feel for you and hope all are able to get a copy. If not, there's always Black Friday RSD for the vinyl...