Grateful Dead

May 1977: Get Shown The Light (All Music Edition)


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WHAT'S INSIDE:
Four Complete Shows on 11 discs
Four folios housed in a slipcase
5/5/77 Veterans Memorial Coliseum: New Haven, CT
5/7/77 Boston Garden: Boston, MA
5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY
5/9/77 Buffalo Memorial Auditorium: Buffalo, NY
50-page book of liners and photographs
Sourced from the Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings, transferred by Plangent Processes
Mastered in HDCD by Jeffrey Norman
Artwork by Grammy-winning graphic artist Masaki Koike
Release Date: May 5, 2017

WHAT DEAD HEADS HAVE BEEN SAYING ABOUT...

NEW HAVEN 5/5/77
"Here is a prime example of the saying ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ … It’s called synergy and the Dead wrote the book on it.”

BOSTON 5/7/77
“The music they laid down brought me places I had not been before.”

CORNELL 5/8/77
“...the single best rock performance anywhere, anytime, by anyone.”

“There was just some kind of magical connection this night between the band members and the band and the audience - some texture, or some type of cosmic or celestial force is in the room.”

"This show is, was, and always will be Mecca.”

BUFFALO 5/9/77
"...an awesome display of the Dead’s captivating power"

If you've been following this site for quite some time, then you will know we are often flush with hyperbole when it comes to our releases. We can't help it, really - for we, like you, are Grateful Dead fans above all else. Just like you, we've spent countless hours debating the merits of show over show, year over year. We've kept a watchful eye on your wish-lists and carefully considered how to make - excuse the cliché - your dreams come true. And once we've made our commitments, we are steadfast in our determination to conjure up those dreams fully-formed and nearly perfect. Sometimes these heights cannot be reached without physical and cosmic elements aligning, and that, dear friends, is why it has taken so long for us to bring you THE ONE and the epic shows that surrounded it. No need for even the slightest embellishment here, 5/8/77 Barton Hall, Cornell University: Ithaca, NY, has for decades, been THE resounding favorite; you've said it yourselves - the "holy grail" of Grateful Dead shows. Thanks to the passion and perseverance of Dead Heads like you, we are beyond pleased to finally be able to present this show and its brethren, the fabled four of Spring '77, in sonically pristine condition.

MAY 1977: GET SHOWN THE LIGHT is a collection of what is unanimously believed to be the most sought-after previously unreleased complete shows the Grateful Dead ever played. Collected, traded, and debated for decades, "the beloved Golden Trinity" of Boston, Ithaca, and Buffalo, along with their New Haven prelude, have inspired fans to "get on the bus," converted critics, and even garnered national attention (Cornell was added to the Library of Congress’ National Recording Registry). But until now, you've never really heard them quite like this!

The Dead is in the details... how serendipitous is it that the notorious Betty Cantor-Jackson soundboard recordings were returned to the archive just in time for the 40th anniversaries of these shows? Lovingly sourced from these well-reputed recordings, we invite you to experience four utopian shows just like they happened, to "be inside the music" as engineer Betty Cantor-Jackson intended. Whether you listen to each night on its own or imbibe the whole lot at once, we suspect you'll hear why every note mattered. Much like we were, you will be hard-pressed to determine which of these fine documents - will it be the understated but nuanced New Haven, Boston's festive fantasy vibes, the monumental catharsis of Ithaca, or Buffalo’s dreamy exuberance - is truly "the best." Does it really matter? We think not.

Unboxing MAY 1977 (ALL MUSIC EDITION)

Listening Party: 5/9/77, Buffalo, NY

“Cassidy”
“Uncle John's Band”

Listening Party: 5/8/77, Ithaca, NY

“Estimated Prophet”
“Loser”
"Row Jimmy"

Listening Party: 5/7/77, Boston, MA

“The Music Never Stopped”
“Terrapin Station”
"Samson And Delilah"

Listening Party: 5/5/77, New Haven, CT

“Peggy-O”
“Estimated Prophet”

Product Details

Show #1
Veterans' Memorial Coliseum - New Haven, CT (5/5/77)


Disc 1
1. Promised Land
2. Sugaree
3. Mama Tried
4. El Paso
5. Tennessee Jed
6. Looks Like Rain
7. Deal
8. Lazy Lightning>
9. Supplication
10. Peggy-O
11. The Music Never Stopped

Disc 2
1. Bertha
2. Estimated Prophet
3. Scarlet Begonias>
4. Fire On The Mountain>
5. Good Lovin’
6. St. Stephen>
7. Sugar Magnolia
8. Johnny B. Goode

Show #2
Boston Garden - Boston, MA (5/7/77)


Disc 1
1. Bertha
2. Cassidy
3. Deal
4. Jack Straw
5. Peggy-O
6. New Minglewood Blues
7. Mississippi Half-Step Uptown Toodeloo>
8. Big River
9. Tennessee Jed
10. The Music Never Stopped

Disc 2
1. Terrapin Station
2. Samson and Delilah
3. Friend Of The Devil
4. Estimated Prophet

Disc 3
1. Eyes Of The World>
2. Drums>
3. The Wheel>
4. Wharf Rat>
5. Around and Around
6. U.S. Blues

Show #3
Barton Hall, Cornell University - Ithaca, NY (5/8/77)


Disc 1
1. New Minglewood Blues
2. Loser
3. El Paso
4. They Love Each Other
5. Jack Straw
6. Deal
7. Lazy Lightning>
8. Supplication
9. Brown-Eyed Women
10. Mama Tried
11. Row Jimmy

Disc 2
1. Dancing In The Street
2. Scarlet Begonias>
3. Fire On The Mountain
4. Estimated Prophet

Disc 3
1. St. Stephen>
2. Not Fade Away>
3. St. Stephen>
4. Morning Dew
5. One More Saturday Night

Show #4
Buffalo Memorial Auditorium - Buffalo, NY (5/9/77)


Disc 1
1. Help On The Way>
2. Slipknot>
3. Franklin’s Tower
4. Cassidy
5. Brown-Eyed Women
6. Mexicali Blues
7. Tennessee Jed
8. Big River
9. Peggy-O
10. Sunrise
11. The Music Never Stopped

Disc 2
1. Bertha>
2. Good Lovin’
3. Ship Of Fools

Disc 3
1. Estimated Prophet>
2. The Other One>
3. Drums>
4. Not Fade Away>
5. Comes A Time>
6. Sugar Magnolia
7. Uncle Johns Band

Seaside Chat: David Lemieux On May 1977

First Listen: "Morning Dew" 5/8/77

"Mind-roasting"? Don't mind if we "dew." Rollingstone.com's got an exclusive sneak preview of what might be the most magical "Morning Dew" of all time.

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Great China Cat?

Try 12-29-77 - DP10
When Jerry sings the "cool Colorado rain" part, it makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up.

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Dave's Picks 3,20 & 22: get

Dave's Picks 3,20 & 22: get into it :D

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Kiss/cheap Trick

Only ever knew one person who liked Kiss, he got a brain tumour, and I was never willing to take the chance.....

Trick on the other hand were great, both on record and live,saw them at the Rainbow back in the day, and even bought the T shirt, so good they were, But I see them as belonging to a whole other genre, Power Pop or big beat, they belong with the Wackers, the Dudes,BigStar, Rasberries, Blue Ash et al.
Any love here for Bob Segarini of the Wackers? He shared the boards in the SF ballrooms with the Dead in the band Family Tree, then went on to Roxy, the Wackers and the Dudes...the album Hot Wacks is in my humble opinion better than Abbey Road, and it ploughs the same furrow.
Try the track I hardly know her name, pure pop bliss, one for the ages.

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Re: Downhill From Here

Agree, Guit. Love that Desolation Row from Downhill From Here too.. that's a great show, so glad they released the video.

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downhill from here

Was watching some Furthur from 2012 and was going to compare them to Dead and Company, Watched some of their Red Rocks Show, they sounded pretty good. I saw "Downhill From Here" on the side, I had watched that a long time ago. The real Dead sounded so much better with Garcia, that I never made it to Dead and Company because I listened to almost a full set of The real Dead. Garcia sounded awesome and they were really having fun. I am not a fan of 80s Dead, but I always enjoy watching Jerry play. I do think that Dead and Company are better than Furthur. Bobby was struggling back then because he was taking meds because of an arm injury. He got that fixed, stopped the meds and he sounds a lot better now to me. Plus, Mayer brings energy to the group. Oteil is a great bass player, I remember when he played with the Allman Brothers after Barry Oakley died. He and Chuck Leavell really saved the ABB, after the 2 deaths. Dicky Betts turned it up a notch too on "Brothers and Sisters". Dead and Company are going to be in Camden tonight, but I don't have that kind of money, I can't believe how much concerts are now. That is a great venue for a concert though, I saw many shows there, back in the 90s. I can't believe all of the talk about KISS and metal rock groups, Remember, there are the archives where you can listen about any Dead show you want to.

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Carpet Crawlers

There is lambswool under my naked feet
The wool is soft and warm
Gives off some kind of heat
A salamander scurries into flame to be destroyed
Imaginary creatures are trapped in birth on celluloid
The fleas cling to the golden fleece
Hoping they'll find peace
Each thought and gesture are caught in celluloid
There's no hiding in memory
There's no room to avoid
The crawlers cover the floor in the red ochre corridor
For my second sight of people, they've more lifeblood than before
They're moving in time to a heavy wooden door
Where the needle's eye is winking, closing on the poor
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"
There's only one direction in the faces that I see
It's upward to the ceiling, where the chamber's said to be
Like the forest fight for sunlight, that takes root in every tree
They are pulled up by the magnet, believing they're free
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"
Mild-mannered supermen are held in kryptonite
And the wise and foolish virgins giggle with their bodies glowing bright
Through the door a harvest feast is lit by candlelight
It's the bottom of a staircase that spirals out of sight
The carpet crawlers heed their callers:
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"
The porcelain mannequin with shattered skin fears attack
And the eager pack lift up their pitchers, they carry all they lack
The liquid has congealed, which has seeped out through the crack
And the tickler takes his stickleback
The carpet crawlers heed their callers,
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"
The carpet crawlers heed their callers,
"We've got to get in to get out
We've got to get in to get out"

Songwriters: Tony Banks / Phil Collins / Peter Gabriel / Steven Hackett / Michael Rutherford

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3/27/72

KeithFan2112 - The 3/27/72 China Cat -> Rider is on the DaP 2015 bonus disc.

daverock - Phil Lesh sat in with the North Mississippi AllStars when they played at Terrapin Crossroads.

http://www.deadheadland.com/2015/12/07/grateful-dad-phil-lesh-joins-midn...

His son, Grahame, is a special guest on their new album.

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Cheap Trick

AMERICAN ICONS!!!!!!

Too bad it took Japan and Budokon to point that out to America. But don't blame me, I was too young at the time to know.
I learned it from 'Fast Times At Ridgemont High'.
:)

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Keithfan, sorry but I must correct

Van Halen actually wrote decent lyrics. And they were a good band.

Bon Jovi, 80's bands,etc were just Van Halen wanna-be's.
Van Halen may have been a Led Zep wanna-be, but I won't go that far.
Album sales don't make a band good, it just means that they know how to manipulate the masses.
And we all know that the masses are generally pretty dumb.....KISS is a perfect example of that.

Oh wait, back to KISS discussions, yeah, we really do need a new release announcement.

I'm calling for DaP23 to be 6-14-76.
:)

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Buck Dharma Frehley

B.O.C.'s "Burnin' For You" contains some of the tastiest lead guitar fills ever regularly heard on classic rock radio. I mean, on any Clear Channel station they've already bought rights to so many songs outright, for an upfront royalty fee, so they basically "own" the broadcast rights on any of their affiliates and that's why they play the shit out of the same goddamn songs over and over instead of deep cuts the way a real DJ would do.

At least there are a few gems in that bunch, "Burnin'," and of course the immortal "(Don't Fear) The Reaper..."

Saw B.O.C. with Rudy Sarzo on bass four or five years ago at some festival. Hey, it was absolutely decent, but ol' Buck was a bit of a disappointment. He is a tiny man in stature, he wasn't dressed too well and his hair was bad and he was playing a MOST un-rock n' roll axe, like some tiny shit Steinberger clone with no headstock. Electric guitars with no headstocks are uncool and make even the most seasoned legend appear to be out there with his fly open. There was no headbanging, no lasers or smoke shooting out of this pawnshop special. He did not stick out his tongue, shake his ass or attempt to appear rockist in any measure... yes, with the Dead the music always was and is enough, but Buck ain't Jerry G.

He played competently, if without enthusiasm, but given the venue (extremely hick Greeley, CO), they basically mailed it in and Buck looked like he didn't really give a shit. It was just paint-by-numbers hit parade.

Such is life in 2017... for the last few years, for some of these bands. B.O.C. is one of those. Argue artistic integrity all you want, but the current incarnation of KISS is still a massive stage show, a first-tier production.

And don't get me started on the songs... KISS was heavily inluenced by the Beatles and they have dozens of "hit" songs. From "I Stole Your Love," to "Rock Bottom," "Come On And Love Me," the ubiquitous "Rock And Roll All Night," "Detroit Rock City," "Calling Dr. Love," "Hard Luck Woman," "God Of Thunder," "Shout It Out Loud," as well as tasteful nuggets such as the immortal "Christine Sixteen." ;-P

Gene Simmons is one hell of a bass player. KISS is much like Cheap Trick, another somewhat overlooked gem of American power pop/rock. I think the theatrics and over-the-topness have somewhat distracted and detracted from the body of work that KISS has amassed.

If one was to eat psylocibin and go to a KISS show, the ridiculousness and bombastic nature of it all would probably induce hilarious laughter or a desperate fleeing from the venue, if not both... compared to just swaying in the breeze at Dead and Co. Like it or not, it's a part of all of us.

We dropped at Monsters of Rock, Alpine Valley, around 1989. It was coming on for Kingdom Come, then peaking during Dokken (Gooney Bird, fair blotter) and the whole sound just kind of morphed into this swirl of unintelligible distortion. Next, Metallica, still a hot up and coming act at the time. Started to recognize songs... Scorpions delivered, and by the time Van Halen came on, the beers had surpassed the acid and smiles were large.

You looked around at your brothers who'd endured that crowd scene in the hot sun all day, and felt bound together, like you'd been through something. Ah, the 1980's.

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China Cats

Yeah, Angry Jack, that 6/26 is something else. I'm looking for another :D

David D, I don't recall 3/27/72, thanks for the heads up.

Simonrob - KISS' best is on par with bands like AC/DC, Van Halen in the early days, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, etc. Tight hard rock riffs, 4 minute songs, lyrics nothing to write home about; utterly fun rock. Hard to believe, but they've sold more than 2x as many albums as the Dead (but nothing worthwhile since the 70s).

Yeah we need a release announcement when the discussion is KISS.

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Awesome.....

.......a double post.....

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Careful with that axe, Eugene

https://youtu.be/uGFRmvaH1Mg

Now time to watch the beginning of D&C...

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Careful with that axe, Eugene

https://youtu.be/uGFRmvaH1Mg

Now time to watch the beginning of D&C...

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Seven Turns.......

Last Seven. ABB post-'89 Reformation

1. Seven Turns
2. Shades of Two Worlds
3. An Evening with the Allman Brothers Band: First Set
4 Where It All Begins
5. An Evening with the Allman Brothers Band: 2nd Set
6. Peakin' at the Beacon
7. Play All Night: Live at the Beacon Theatre 1992.

All good. Very good. Peace Gregg. "No one left to run with anymore...."

After weeks of deep immersion in the precision and sonic bliss that's May '77 Dead.

Enjoy the weekend all!

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North Mississippi Allstars

Going back to slide guitar for a minute, I am going to London next week to see the North Mississippi Allstars, who are driven by one of the finest living exponents of that style, Luther Dickinson. I have never seen them before, and got their most recent album today, Prayer For Peace. It shows almost zero progression from their first album, "Shake Hands With Shorty" which came out 17 years ago! This is very good news-I had a vague suspicion that they may have morphed into a blues rock band. No worries there-this is as raw as it gets. The only difference I can notice, after having played it once, is female backing vocals on the title track-which fit in excellently.

Reason I am mentioning all this is that the new album has three tracks The Dead covered-"Stealin", "Deep Ellum" and "Bid You Good Night". The last of these has some really great slide guitar on it-in fact the whole album does.

In the sleeve notes, there is a "Thank you" section-and one of the groups being thanked is Phil Lesh and the Terrapin Crossroads Family. I wondered if anyone knew what the connection was.

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i was into Kiss for a brief

i was into Kiss for a brief moment in time but it seemed to have faded away. I was only into the original lineup I think i have all the 70's albums(including the Solo albums) barring the Alive albums. had that one magical moment of going to Walmart looking for Dressed to Kill and Hotter Than Hell and they actually had them at five bucks a pop.

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my final thoughts on Kiss

They never wrote a song as cerebral as Astronomy

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DaP23

What is it..the end of June? So potentially an announcement in a few weeks in preparation of an 8/1 release? Time just runs together..tough to believe we're almost halfway through 2017.

I've had DaP22 spinning in the car constantly since I got it. I think it's a great show, but hasn't made a lasting impression on me. I enjoy it when it's on but haven't felt the need to go seek it out, like so many other releases. Probably need to throw it on the stereo inside and really listen through uninterrupted.

Had Dead & Co from Atlanta on Youtube this morning while working around the house. They are definitely clicking.

I don't know KISS well enough to contribute to the discussion..the closest I get to rock in that style is maybe Seger, not quite the same thing. But I'll take some Live Bullet any time.

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Yes

o6 o9 91 for dp 23

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New release announcement...

I couldn't agree more.

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An In Depth Discussion Of KISS

Time for a new release announcement don't ya think?

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DETROIT ROCK CITY

Any yal see movie detroit rock city
Decent flicc

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Kiss-not the real thing

I can (vaguely) remember seeing Kiss in Manchester in England back in 1976. In those days I loved heavy rock-but although it was alright as a night out, I never felt inspired to buy a record by them-or see them ever again. In fact, apart from a single called "Beth" I don't think Ive ever heard a record by them. Or wanted to.

The Blue Oyster Cult were a different matter-brilliant live, and many great records. Their first four are the ones to go for-but most of their 1970s albums are worth a listen.

Another great American performer who came to England in the late 1970s was Iggy Pop. In fact I would say he is probably the best performer I have ever seen. Compared to the varying strengths of Iggy and the BOC, Kiss very much seemed like pretenders. Heck, even Ted Nugent was better that Kiss.

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@ LedDed

No, seriously, the video that you posted a link to is the first time I've been subjected to anything Kiss. Not everyone has been so fortunate, apparently. Thanks a lot for that one, buddy! You are right when you say "plenty of over-the-top in every way" and certainly extremely American. Now I feel an overwhelming need to rinse my ears with disinfectant.

I have not owned a radio since the mid-'70s when good music on the radio was replaced by commercial crap. If I want to listen to music, I want to choose what it is I listen to. Since I changed employer about 5 years ago, I have been subjected to the office radio for 8 hours each day. They seem to have a playlist of about 10 or 12 songs, some of which have been played on a daily basis for the whole 5 years (and probably longer). Why would I want to hear that? Even hearing such a song 10 times a day every day for years is not going to make me like it. Such radio stations are not there to improve my life, they exist to make themselves money from advertising revenue and the less they have to pay in royalties the bigger their profit. Having said that, Kiss would never have made it onto the playlists of such radio stations anyway.

As for records, I do not know anyone who has ever bought a Kiss album, so I have never got to hear them when visiting friends etc.

Of course I've seen pictures (the paint, the tongue) and that was enough to suggest to me that here was a phenomenon not worth investigating further.

There are advantages to having 3000 miles of ocean between where you live and America. There are also disadvantages, of course, but that Kiss were never able to swim so far has to be considered an advantage.

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David and SYF Mandala tee shirt

thanks for the heads up, I wanted that shirt and they were sold out and I forgot all about them. Now I have one, thanks!

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BOC

I saw BOC in 1975 at the Long Beach Arena. Ted Nugent and then Kansas opened but BOC really earned their top-billing. They were one of the original 'guitar-army' bands. It was like heaven to my then teenage head-bangin' ears.

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BOC's Buck Dharma....

....if you look up under-rated guitarist in the dictionary, his pic is most likely there. Seen them twice. Both times in the 90's as well. No laser light show like they had in the 70's. They took off big time after Agents Of Fortune came out. Cultosaurus Erectus is a fun ride. Tons of Michael Moorcock / Elric of Melniboné references. Good books that flip the pages on their own....
edit....well lookie there. BOC is playing at The Golden Nugget here in Vegas on Sept 15th. Imagine that!....the last three days they played some shows in Europe on a double bill with Queensryche. Nice....

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BOC

Saw them for $1.94 in 1990 for the local 94 FM radio station's b-day party. Yeah, is was probably past their prime, but at least I did get to see them.

No offense to Spinal Tap. If it wasn't for them I wouldn't know that some speakers can go up to 11.

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Knights In Satan's Service....

....aka KISS. I like them. When they took their makeup off for the Lick It Up record, it was a mindblowing event in my teenage years. When I first saw the cover, I wished they kept it on. Haha. Seriously, lots of flash and bling indeed, but it made them who they were. Rock and Roll Over, Dressed To Kill and Animalize are my favorites, but remember, heavy metal and glam rock were my stepping stones into the world of music in the early 80's. Hard to just toss them to the curb, even now. Still go back every now and then....and yeah rgergelis, The Blue Oyster Cult beat them every time....

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hate mail

Hey, icecrmcnkd, don't you go dissin' Spinal Tap!

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Academy of Music

China Cat -> Rider

3/27/72

Worth a listen.

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KISS, the real-life Spinal Tap

I think KISS sucks. Big time!
(Oh, I'm going to get a lot of hate mail now).

In a past effort to convince myself otherwise I scoured the internet for video of KISS concerts. Found some, but couldn't even finish watching it because it was so bad.
Although I always watched the TV show 'Gene Simmons Family Jewels' years ago. Not against Gene, just think his band completely lacks substance and is nothing more than a marketing gimmick.

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tee shirt

SYF MANDALA CORNELL T-SHIRT (NAVY) on sale again.

http://www.dead.net/store/special-edition-shops/may-1977/syf-mandala-cor...

Would have loved to be at that NYU symposium. Maybe they'll hold one at UCSC (wish, wish).

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@ simonrob

I feel like you're putting me on... but I'll take the question seriously on a lark.

Oh, there was plenty of hype, plenty of pyro, plenty of "over the top" in every way. Extremely American.

Now that I'm pushing 50, I tend to play a helluva lot more Dead than KISS. But, it still has it's place.

It's just dumb, big fun rock n' roll. Here's a snippet:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTHz6B5O50s

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Hippie Youtube

I am going to have to check out some of those China Cat-I know you riders, always one of my favorite jams. Jerry was a good slide player, if you are a pedal steel player, generally you are pretty good at slide. I ran across this youtube about traveling deadheads back in the day. Kinda cool, definitely different. Have a great weekend.
Jim

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCUP6bP17fg

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Dead Symposium Update

Just back from the Dead symposium at NYU. Overall great event and very informative. Photog presentation by Jay Blakesberg amazing career from Englishtown to the iconic Fare Thee Well stage/crowd shot. Peter Shapiro recapping his ride from the Wetlands to the Cap Portchester and beyond. Nicholas Meriwether contributing eloquently about academic dead studies. But, Owsleys wife Dr. Rhoney Stanley's tales of the old, old days and making acid for the Monterrey Pop Fest and stressing the importance of the women of the Deads family was the highlight. She's quite impressive with a sharp memory of funny/trippy/interesting stories of the band members and the surrounding scene from one who lived it. Those were days!!

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Kiss

I am not sure if I have ever heard anything by them at all. Did they ever visit Europe? Certainly they never conquered the European airwaves. Did I miss something worthwhile or was it all hype?

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Kiss

They grew up a town over from me in Richmond Hill Queens NY, I never got them. preferred BOC...whole lot of flash and bling...

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KISS

I grew up on KISS as a little kid in the 70's like many. They were cooler than cool, they were like superheroes. I had a HUGE KISS poster on my bedroom wall, KISS trading cards, action figures, etc.

I even liked that shitty KISS Meets the Phantom of the Park movie. I was exactly who they were marketing to. KISS is a marketing juggernaut, and while one could say some of Paul and Gene's moves are of questionable taste, there is no doubt that they are brilliant businessmen.

KISS, like any other entertainment entity, is a brand. There was no shortage of buyers for merch at the Dead and Co. shows, either. It is what it is, Paul and Gene are just better and more aggressive than most. That and they have no shame, but whatever. They've earned what they have and they have set their families up for life.

I've read all their biographies. As far as Ace and Peter, I love those guys, Ace is absolutely the coolest. Ace Frehley is Keith Richards' cool, and that's a short list. But, it's all out there even from them, they were unbelievably fucked up on booze and blow from the mid 1970's heyday until it all fell apart.

Paul and Gene kept the band, and the business, going and commercially viable. As far as the reunion goes, I too was there, at McNichols arena in 1996, I believe it was, about 20 rows back - on Ace's side! I get goosebumps writing this. My childhood heroes were killing it on the Alive II stage. It was like a dream come true.

Ace and Peter continued to get fucked up, wasted until once again it all fell apart. They were instrumental in forming the band and writing the first songs, performing, and Paul and Gene have given them each their due in that area. They shortchanged themselves financially. It is what it is, I wouldn't cry for either of them.

Ace has his shit back together. Peter is retired. It wouldn't surprise me if they take off the makeup and do a long farewell tour - with Ace - in another three, four years once this makeup thing has run it's course. After every penny is milked, yes, Gene will find a way to sell tickets one more time.

Paul is an unselfish guitarist. He's a great rhythm player who holds that sound together. And, no joking, his solo album is probably my favorite.

Two cents.

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Best China Cats?

So there is 6/26/74

And then all the other ones.

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China Cats

Would love to see everyone's top 3 China Riders, so that I can figure out if there are aewsome versions I've overlooked. So hard to limit to 3. Maybe 5?

5/3/72. Original E72 version. Wow, the solo at 2:30 is so unique and good, i wonder if it was a production overdub. Nothe crazy about the vocal overdubs on Rider, so I just plug in the 5/24 Rider - fits like a glove.

2/24/74 - Awesome

8/27/72 - Yep

11/11/73 - Dig It (like the FBI, and the CIA, and the BBC)

6/6/74 - uh huh

6/18/74 - jah!

4/2/73 - yes indeed

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Re: Paul Stanley

Yeah, KISS fan here too, especially Ace, who I got to see 2x in the past couple of years. He's always played extremely well. That was a shame how they took advantage of him, especially when you consider that without him, they never would have dug themselves out of an untenable tax hole. Ace's participation allowed Gene and Paul to retire with 100s of millions, compared to the zeros of millions that they were on the way toward because of unpaid taxes.

I've never seen them without Ace, simply because he's the Jerry of the band's music. No Ace, no "true" KISS band up there onstage. What great memories. I saw them during the 4 night MSG run, when they reunited in '96. It was Saturday night, and there is nothing that compares to a NY rock crowd, and this is coming from a Philly boy. Philly is close, but KISS in their hometown was not going to be denied. It was the most extraordinary show I've ever been too, with the exception of the Dead on 7/7/89 and June 95 at the Knick. Those two bands are opposites, but the atmosphere is similar;instead of "twirlers" in the doorways, we had "air rockers". Every doorway from the concourse was filled with make-up painted faces, drunk, stoned, and playing their air guitars. Ah, if only I could go back. Happy days. People were seeing they're long lost heroes back from the dead. I remember the first two songs had me completely absorbed with the physical, visual spectacle. Then song # 3, Ace hit the climax note during the Dr. Love solo, and a chill shot through me like goose bumps, as I experienced one of those musical highs that come along once in a long while. Thanks for the memories Minas.

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Bob Weir & The Acoustic Lucy's

To me, Slideweir is hit or miss..also as much as I'm a blues fan, I really don't care for most of his blues number, a la Spring '90 in the second or third slot. I can't handle Little Red Rooster period, even by Wolf, but those are tough for me to not skip. Walkin' Blues is a bit better, but just not into it.

Edit: To Jim's point on Jerry's slide, definitely agree. A lot of those Spring 90 (as an example) seem they were both playing the slide on the same songs? Gotta give them props for not holding back.

Though on the subject of Weir and his instrumentation, his acoustic guitar playing is great. I remember a show they streamed last year for his solo album tour, he opened with an acoustic One More Saturday Night and it was a highlight. He's obviously rather inventive in general, with his bizarre chords and what not, but it's particularly evident on the acoustic.

Acoustic Lucy: https://www.relix.com/media/video/bob_weir_loose_lucy

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Jerry and Slide

..as a pivot point, I don't see much talk about Jerry's slide on these forums. I was listening to 2/24/74 earlier this week and the WRS>Row Jimmy was sooo good... I got to thinking about the guitar work on Row Jimmy.. there were the slide years, 74 and I think some in 77 or am I making that up.. and the non-slide years. I enjoy them both but the slide in WRS Prelude and again on Row Jimmy was really good.

Love Jerry's slide and for that matter Pedal Steel.

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Paul Stanley

I thought it was ironic that someone made a comment about Paul Stanley being unselfish. He made millions and millions and millions on the kiss reunion tour which only could have happened by having the reunion of the original four members. He and Gene Simmons paid Ace Frehley and Peter Criss a pittance. I don't recall what the actual numbers were, but it was posted in a couple of their biographies and online so I'm sure the reporting is accurate (and Paul Stanley makes no bones about the deal he gave those guys). That's fine, all is fair in business, but I just found it ironic that the word unselfish and Paul Stanley arrived together in the same sentence, even if playing style is what was being referred to, and not as personality. As a kiss fan, it just always bothered me how much Paul and Gene profited off of Aces talent with that whole reunion. The numbers were alike 30 or 40 million for Gene and Paul, and and two or three million for Ace & Peter. Disgusting people, those two. They even made an album with the 4 original members, and said it was for the fans. Everything is always for the fans Paul and Gene say. Then we find out years later that a sand Peter only played on one song with them. If I had a bunch of f*** you money I would sue them for false advertising. And then those two assholes can't even put the makeup on with Ace and Peter for one night as they're inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Unselfish is not the word for Paul Stanley. Sorry about the rant guys.

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knock knock jokes

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Weir Slide vs. Dylan Harmonica

This is a common "which would you rather..." topic of discussion between the wife and I; she a big Dylan fan, and of course, yours truly.

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Bob Weir slide guitar

Old Bobby played some slide guitar tonight at the Dead & Company show in Bristow, Virginia. Sounded just fine. Great show. John Mayer has improved significantly over the past year in terms of meshing with the band and his singing has also improved. Oteil Burbridge and Jeff Chementi were on fire. It was a great show! (And Senator Al Franken was in attendance.)

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Weir and Slide

No, you don't want this, very bad, Jerry is pretty good, but Bobby should have slides hidden from him, great guitarist though. I had that Egypt box set with CDs and DVD, I watched the DVD a few times, it was ok, fun watching them play there. I think one of the problems was they had borrowed a sound system from another band. It was a dream they had.

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