Dave's Picks Volume 8: Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 11/30/80 - SOLD OUT
This product is officially sold out.
This item is now available for PRE-ORDER ONLY. Item is estimated to ship November 1, 2013.
It's our last release of the 2013 Dave's Picks series and this next one's a fox, literally. We're making our first foray into the 80s (don't expect it to be the last!) with the complete show from 11/30/80, Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA. Fans of "The Fox" often debate the merits of this highly-esteemed performance, as in they find it hard to narrow down their favorite bits since this night is replete with many. From a spirited opener with an era-defining rendition of "Deal" to a soaring and powerful second set featuring one of the best ever versions of "Scarlet>Fire," there's no doubt the band was on their game and sound man Dan Healy was too. As the liners put it, "fast or slow, Jerry or Bob, routine or rare: they nail them all." Multiple listens have been said to yield un-ending revelations (even auras!), you'll just have to tune in to see where you land on the spectrum. Wherever this exceptional show takes you, it all adds up to over 3 hours of extremely fun listening. Hotlanta, indeed!
It goes without saying that this one will sell out in no time at all, so your best bet is to pre-order it now...
3 Disc set
Limited to 13,000 individually numbered copies
Mastered to HDCD specs by Jeffrey Norman
Digipak made of 100% recycled and PCW materials
Release Date: November 1, 2013
Fox Theatre, Atlanta, GA 11/30/80
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I just heard about the release yesterday on GD Radio on Sirius XM. I can't belive it's sold out already... I have to have to have to have a copy! Please help!
Hi, please don't say it's already sold! I want it.
Thanks & regards
Will this disc be made available elsewhere for purchase?
on a CD are totally meaningless! Having a lower number with, say etchings, or even records, makes some sense, since those later in a run have some degradation to their quality (and this is already assuming, as is often not the case!) that the run is numbered in the actual production order.) They can produce another 14,000, or another 14 million, and number them, and it don't make one iota of difference. If you pay more for a low number on the secondary market, well, be my guest, but its all the same! It is simply a (very effective) marketing ploy. They may very well decide next week it is not sold out, and print more. If they do not number them, and lower the price, say, I would be angry if I purchased a "rare numbered copy" just the week before.
Enjoy the music, thats what matters!
Uh, I feel kinda dumb about this, but I got caught up in the hoopla of this release and (pre)ordered it -- forgetting I already had the 2013 subscription.
So I'll sell my spare to the first person to PM me on this forum, face value. I'll put it in the mail as soon as my second copy arrives.
That's what Rhino wants. It makes dollars and sense for them. there is a trend however, 12,000 in 2012 , 13,000 in 2013 , and I'm guessing the trend continues. 14,000 in 2014. My 2 concerns are yes the items are available on eBay for a marked up cost, but who wants to pay those prices? not me. I am against that practice, but some others involved are making money doing it, so I'm sure they are happy. It is quite a good idea, buying 4 or 5 of each volume and then making your subscription money back in basically 1 sale. Or even better is buying X amount of subscriptions with free shipping and bonus disc and then selling them off like that. and possibly keeping the copy with a more preferred limited edition #. Maybe I'll get copy #1980. Or # 00001 , how about #13,000. For Spiring 90 Box is was hoping to get # 1990, sadly I did not.
My other concern is that since these are coming from the vault they won't be released again, so it is a chance to never get these shows if u didnt buy before a sell out. Since dicks picks is being rereleased, maybe dave could do a big box of volume 1-12 or 1-16 when it gets to that point. I missed out out on vol. 1 and 3. Kind of bummed out but I have many from the vault. But for some others that don't own many official releases and were waiting for a specific show only to find out its sold out. That would be kind of frustrating. Re-release Filmore West 69' box please or add a few show around it with those shows and call it another name, i will buy.
Does any body know why 5-18-77 Fox show not included in May 77' box?
I think an increase is coming. Dave's picks year 2 increased from year 1. Also the box set this year, may 77, had a much larger run printed as well as the veneta sets. They want it to sell out and I understand the business of that. If it sells out in a week you probably could've sold a lot more. If it takes 2-3 months to sell out you are probably getting closer to satisfying everyone who wishes to obtain a copy. I did think it was interesting how they offered download for May 77 and it is a limited edition. That may have been a test to see how it would effect physical media sales. I enjoy collecting the physical media, but I also enjoy having the download option too. One day both will be available for most releases I believe. Year 3 Dave's picks totals will go to 13,500 or 14,000 I bet.
If a set sells out in 4 days, obviously some fans are going to miss out. And not enough are being printed. This is a shame. To add to the disappointment, copies are being bought in bulk, then sold on Amazon for three times the price. A quick search for Dave's Picks on Amazon tells this story. Maybe I'm in the minority, but why not print more copies? It seems likely next year will see production increased. But does this address the issue now- for fans today. Who loses out by printing an extra thousand copies of DP8- the collector whose one of 13,000 is now one of 14,000. Of course, more copies won't be printed of DP8. Rhino said 13,000 and that's that. So the fans who missed out, hit up Amazon and buy one for $80- yeah, that seems fair. Printing more of DP8- that would only make too much sense, and the fans who missed out would be that much happier. How about a download option for Dave's Picks? Or fans should just go to a torrent site and get it for free.
I was fortunate enough to have 4th row seats at this show as I never missed a Fox show from post hiatus until this one being my last Atlanta show before moving south. I have the tape but I was going to pick this one up here for any added clarity. If it can sell out in a week not enough are being printed. And not enough are printed so they will sell out this fast. Sounds like a planned business strategy. For shame. While Jerry was alive it would be : make sure there are enough so that if you want one it can be bought. Post Jerry business modem : Make it difficult to get so that the fans know if they don't buy it immediately , they are out of luck. Honestly people , if it sells out in a week your not printing enough. On a more positive note , some other great Atlanta fox shows are 5-18-77 and 4-10-78. The 77 show I could be biased since I was backstage but upon listening back I think I am right , its great.
Maybe the silent masses have spoken? The first 80's Dave's pick has evaporated. Fastest sell out for sure. In any case being born and raised in GA and having lived in Atlanta the last 9 years.... I'm fired up!!! Listening party sounds great!!
And a matrix release..... I LOVE IT!!!
Great to be a deadhead
Happy to say I ordered mine the first day, transaction complete, confirmation received. I followed this leg of the 1980 tour from the Sportatorium to Lakeland to Gainesville to Atlanta financing this jaunt by selling.... Well that was a long time ago. By the time we did the Atlanta show I was not in the frame of mind to remember anything. All I know it took us nearly a week to get back to South Florida. Now I'll finally be able to listen to the music that I think I heard but have no memory of. It's a funny old world.
just like that, gone. Will wait and see what the first release will be on next years subscription, but if it's as good as this one, I'm in. Got two of dave's picks this year, 6 and 8. More 80's please and can't wait for the rest of that spring 90 tour, they left the best shows in the vault from that run, 3-29-90 will be cool, but why not give us all the great Branford performances at once, there were what 4 or 5 shows he played with the band? Now that would make a great box set. Speculation for 50 yr anniversary, huge Dead reunion tour with all the players, Kimock and Karan, Bruce and Donna Jean with special quests the Allman Brothers, Santana, NRPS, and other "special guests". Ticket price 200.00 gate, the sky's the limit on line or thru a scalper. 50% of proceeds go to Rex foundation. Hey, I can dream can't I?
did this release really sell out in 6 days? wow.
hope this is a mistake
I seem to remember the number after subscriptions being 2,500 CDs. So look for a lot of these to be offered on eBay at jacked up prices. DeadNet/Rhino should up the production run to 15,000 for 2014.
I purchased the first seven volumes of Dave's Picks right here from dead.net, usually having to wait a few days, never having subscribed. A sellout in four days is definitely a first for this series. This time, it's hard for me to trust that it has really sold out this quickly. As I said before, and I believe it was during the Vol. 5 presale, the website said 'sold out', but hours later, it was up for sale again and the admin apologized for the glitch in the system. Bummer!
I am sure I remember hearing or reading that number somewhwere on here when they were trying to persuade folks to order fast one of the earlier DaPs. Of course I may be wrong. Memory ain't what it used to be.
Is the 11,000 sold to subscriptions accurate? Where did you hear that? That seems very high.
I was going to buy this release and it is already sold out! To be honest, I probably have enough vault releases now. Maybe I will stop purchasing any more.
Don't forget that more than 11,000 were already 'presold' to subscribers.
many people buy multiple copies and then sell them at prices tripled on the net.
this not be the right thing.
I like all eras of the Dead but I must admit '80 and '81 are pretty far removed from my favorite eras. Listened to the Road Trips from 1980 recently and it's good but not special IMO.
But Dave has done a great job so far, so I look forward to hearing this new release.
The dog star is a reference to Sirius, a bright star once used by sailors for navigation in the Pacific.
Given today's nautical technology, a better question now might be: where's the dogfish head brew?
Yeah, I know this post is several pages late. BTW, count me among those who enjoy Sailor-Saint, although I like the later versions of SOC better.
Wharfrat71, I tried to pre-order DP 8 and could not. I'm afraid its sold out for now. I'm very surprised 13,000 copies sold out in a few days!! I hope Dead.net increases inventory to meet the demand.. Dead.net should do a survey and see how many Dead heads who could not order DP 8 are interested in purchasing DP 8.
Stoltzfus, you just touched my soul with your comment about the Greek Shows :) You are the first person I've seen mention those shows, however, I only started reading comments on this site since this spring. Been following the Dead since 1987. Those 82 Greek shows are some of my favorite GD tapes in my collection!! I have about 200 tapes and CDs of Dead Shows from 1966 - 1995. I basically enjoy all of the GD eras except for the Vince era. I enjoyed attending the ahows that Vince played though!!! But my 2 - 3 1982 Greek Tapes are total bliss. I wish I was at those shows! I haven't listened to most of my tapes for 15 years. I dug out a few old tapes 5 or 6 years ago and the tape snapped. So, I starting copying a few other tapes to newer cassettes. That was getting tedious and I wanted try to xfer them to CDs. Never happened... Anywho, Dave must dig out those Greek tapes from the bowels of the vault and produce DP 9!! I don't think the cream of the crop has all been harvested yet because those Greek shows are still in the vault, ho-may!! Lately, when I listen to the Veneta Birdsong, I wish I could put on an 82 Birdsong on the CD player next. Birdsong is one of my favorites songs in the early 80's shows.
We have waited long enough. Nice that Dave is finally opening up to the matrix possibilities too. This will salvage many of those hissy and baked beta boards from the early 80's.
Bring on Tiger and Rosebud!!!
Wow four days and poof!!!! Glad I got mine. I think this answers any questions about the demand for 80's releases especially if the Board/Aud mix works ! Now Dave get that Alpine 84' show you talked about on your chat out. That would be great!! Also my first show!!!! Bring on the subscriptions for next year I'm in again.
That has to be a record for sure? This is a solid release to round out the year of great releases. I'm still listening to May 77, pristine sound. Maybe the 2014 subscription will go on sale in a few days. Any Deadhead that passes on it is nuts. Thanks Dave! Looking forward to next year. Really can't imagine what will be coming in 2015 for the big 50th Anniversary. Jam on!
Peace and happiness
Is it already sold out? That's what it says on my screen now. There was a glitch one time that made it say 'sold out', but they fixed it. I believe it happened on Vol. 5. I really hope it's not true, was going to get it this weekend.
wow... that sold out quick. i wonder if this one was the fastest to sell out?
The jacket that's in the picture for the chat with DL- I guess this is a piece of history? I did some looking, and found this jacket was included in the GD collection at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Supposing then this won't be an item that will appear in the store. It'd be a cool jacket to have.
my memory ain't what it used to be (in fact it never was what it used to be!) I wonder why... could it have anything to do with those little pieces of paper with dancin' bears!
My ancient work computer doesn't ever play the links, but your advice has me jaming out to this sweeeeeeet 'Bird Song' at the moment! Lots of love, brother!
Well, there's thirteen hundred and fifty two
Guitar pickers in Nashville
And they can pick more notes than the number of ants
On a Tennessee anthill
Yeah, there's thirteen hundred and fifty two
Guitar cases in Nashville
And anyone that unpacks his guitar can play
Twice as better than I will
I know that this comment was made three days ago, but I just wanted to say that the song was "Box of Rain" that Lindsey dances to in her room. The only reason that I remember that is because for me, like I guess it was for a lot of people, the FIRST song I heard was track one of American Beauty... Box of Rain. As an 11 year old metal head who thought to check them out because I dug all the skeleton artwork, etc., I can clearly remember thinking from the first strummed chords of that song, "I think I have found something here!" Been on the bus since, not planning on getting off! (I do think that Ripple may have been played at the end of the episode though :) Have a Grateful Weekend!
For anyone else who loves a good "Big River" Jerry solo, I point your attention to Emmylou Harris' live version of Gram Parsons' "Ooh Las Vegas" on Elite Hotel. James Burton pulls off some mighty fine pickin'. GP's version, which also featured Burton on lead, is not a throwaway, either.
Okay, I am now moving on from "Big River".
Well after loads of to-ing and frow-ing, sniping and gripe-ing, for me, at least, it is very interesting to see folks lists of songs likes and dislikes. They have helped me think more clearly about aesthetic preferences, and what may be behind them, in the Head community. Most of you I suspect could not care less (and there is no reason to unless, well, you spend some of your waking hours thinking about such things, and yes, it would be fair to respond "go get a life"!). But thanks all for the responses. As for the Philo 101 comments, guilty as charged! If I bore ya, skip my posts (Hell, I bore myself half the time!). If I offend you, for that I am sorry, it is the deep affinity I feel for you all as members of the Head community that allows me what is perhaps bluntness. And, actually sometimes it takes a little prodding to arouse a good jam in these posts! (You know, sometimes Phil had to drop "a bomb" to get the rest of the gang firing on all cylinders!). I try, and would urge others, to never get personal in these posts, direct no ire towards anyone in particular. I will get this release, it will remind me of great times I had, flush from the Radio City run. I wish you all the comfort and pleasure of your favourite shows, your favourite songs, from whatever era, whatever venue: "never had such a good time....I wanna take that ride again!"
Jerry shreds on pretty much any 70's "Big River". It can be a very sleepy 1st set with a smoking "Big River" on any given night.
My bachelor party was The Dead at Deer Creek in 2004, just my best man, my little sister, and me. The first set closer was "Big River">"Cumberland". You could feel the ground trembling from all the bones shaking.
Thanks for the FB link. Hadn't noticed it there. That's exactly what I was looking for!
There were a couple folks looking for a "flat" version of the DaP 8 album art. I found a fairly high resolution version on the Dead's Facebook page. Try this:
I too am always surprised by the sentiments stated here. Sometimes I feel like I am the lone weirdo, as a lot of my faves turn up on others' dislikes and my dislikes turn up on others' faves. I guess that makes for a nice, varied Dead world.
With the Dead, and with other music that I listen to, I usually favor the rockers over the ballads most of the time. Just my preference. I love most of Bob's tunes and I do like his cowboy tunes very much.
We are all Dead fans here, at least I will assume that. Perhaps that is wrong? When I listen to any of the releases, I listen to them all, all the way through, in order. I do not skip anything. I just never know when a tune that I am not a big fan of will strike my in a new way. Even after all of these years I can still be surprised and hear something in a different way.
I am happy with all of Dave's picks. I look forward to DaP8 and beyond for sure. I will be signing up for the next subscription as soon as it is offered. I trust Dave to give us good shows and I like the variety. Even with the 70's being heavily represented, there is a lot of variety there. I hope the 80's fans are happy to finally have gotten a show and hopefully more will follow. There is great music from all Dead eras and I enjoy them all. Maybe some more then others, but overall, I am in on the whole 30 year experience. Rock on.
Matchewy - So nice to see someone stand up for one of Weir's cowboy tunes! :o) They tend to get so little respect. I loved the way Garcia always tore into Me and My Uncle, Big River, Mexicali Blues, etc. Even on his worst nights, these tunes somehow brought out the best in him.
Could it be possible that the remix of "Anthem" was used by mistake, instead of the original one? It was never released on CD, so it's a nice addition to have it on high resolution digital media. A pity the original mix of "Aoxomoxoa" is only available on vinyl.
I'm with PFox (am I really saying this?) can we get a flat cover image for this release?!
RE: a Florida box set, if the tapes appeared and that happened wouldn't the title need to be "What about Gainesville"?
Re: Best/Worst lists - some interesting choices. It's always fascinating to see what gets some folks off has the opposite effect on others. Someone mentioned WRS as a worst - I can understand Prelude and Part 1, but Let It Grow is an absolute favorite, for me. Especially those 89-90 versions.
SUPER pumped from Dave's last video chat to hear that 3/29/90 is pretty much a sure thing (assuming Spring 90 Vol. 2 comes out, which seems likely), AND that 2/11/70 has a legitimate shot of being released. I contacted him about it previously (and had mentioned that over in the DaP7 thread before it was deleted) and it seemed like something he wanted to do, but would be a long shot. His recent comments make it SEEM like a better possibility now.
For the site admins: Why is there not a phpBB format forum on this site. It would be SO much better. See RUKIND.com for example. Please do this. Please. The forum/comments on this site are one of the main reasons I come here, but they're so poorly implemented it hurts.
Right on stoltzfus!
wind noise wind noise
wind noise 71 wind noise
Look a yellow breasted red heron jay
What a fullness this adds
I often thought if someone didn't know the Dead, what ONE song would I play.....I want to say The Eleven or Terrapin, but I always come back to St.Stephen. The blend of genres, the bringin' it way down to:
Lady finger, dipped in moonlight
Writing "What for?" across the morning sky
Sunlight splatters dawn with answers
Darkness shrugs and bids the day goodbye
Speeding arrow, sharp and narrow
What a lot of fleeting matters you have spurned
Several seasons with their treasons
Wrap the babe in scarlet colours, call it your own
Then...........bam, back at it. To me it rolls the GD up nicely for ONE song to a newbies ears.
Best title ever! You should get a free set if they get the tapes back.
lots of comments ie best and worst songs, all subjective. lots of comments ie opinions, all subjective, lots of comments ie personal favorites, all subjective, thanks for all of your opinions, good discussions. I really thought the comment about dick waving was quite funny.
I hope in the future they release the 3 shows before this one in a box set, that would be a real sell out quick. I know that they are not in the vault, but perhaps who ever has them would be a real friend and give them back. The world needs this music. Title of box set.... from Florida with love....swamp gator...it must have been the doses Florida November 1980.
A man comes into a bar and says, "hey bartender, set up 6 double Jack Daniels right here." Bartender obliges and says "why so many?" drinker says "You'd have this many in a row if you had what I have" bartender backs up with a cautious look and says in a wondering voice "what do you have?" after slamming down the last drink the man says " a dollar".
I had taken the SAT's that a.m. we drove up from DC about 5 hrs it was a blustery day, no tickets I was around the front doors and some bozo speared my knees. The doorman felt sorry for me and let me in. I was blown away by the venue. As I came in Garcia was right there singing He's Gone awesome!!
Oh yeah, "Viola Lee Blues" is easily in the top three of my favorite covers list.