RFK Stadium 1989 Box
The Grateful Dead battled the elements in July 1989, enduring drenching rains and stifling humidity during back-to-back shows at Robert F. Kennedy Stadium in the nation’s capital. In spite of the bleak weather, the band thrilled the massive crowds both nights with triumphant performances that rank among the very best of a busy year that included 74 shows and the release of the group’s final studio album, BUILT TO LAST.
ROBERT F. KENNEDY STADIUM, WASHINGTON, D.C., JULY 12 & 13, 1989 includes two previously unreleased concerts taken from the band’s master 24-track analog recordings, which have been mixed by Jeffrey Norman at TRI Studios and mastered in HDCD by David Glasser. The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine. The set will also be available as a digital download in Apple Lossless and FLAC 192/24.
When Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Brent Mydland, and Bob Weir rolled into D.C. in July 1989 for the Dead’s two-night stand at RFK, the band hit the stage running with a stellar rendition of “Touch Of Grey,” the group’s biggest hit from its only Top 10 album In The Dark, which was released in 1987. The following night, the band returned to its double-platinum commercial breakthrough when it opened the show with a fiery version of “Hell In A Bucket.”
“RFK Stadium '89 fell right in the middle of one of the best tours of the last 15 years of Grateful Dead performances, with these shows being the sixth and seventh of an 11-show tour. This tour is widely considered the start of a nine month period of sustained excellence, which ran from Summer '89 through Spring '90. The RFK shows are as good as any of the more famous shows from this period, including July 4 in Buffalo, July 7 in Philadelphia, and the Alpine run,” says David Lemieux, Grateful Dead archivist and the set’s producer. “When Bob Weir has asked me to provide copies of Grateful Dead songs to give to his bandmates to learn and rehearse, he almost always requests Summer '89, and I've often drawn upon the RFK shows for this purpose. It's really that good!”
Both shows feature standout moments, but the July 12 show is notable for a few reasons. Perhaps the biggest is that the first set featured at least one song sung by each of the band’s four lead singers – Garcia, Weir, Lesh and Mydland – something that rarely happened. Another surprise came when the band opened the second set with “Sugaree,” a song that almost always appeared during the first set.
Pianist Bruce Hornsby — who briefly joined the band between 1990 and 1992 — is featured on both shows. He played accordion during “Sugaree” and “Man Smart (Woman Smarter),” with a touch of keyboard-tinkling, on July 12, and then played more accordion the following night for “Tennessee Jed” and “Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again.”
For fans of Mydland’s tenure with the Dead – which began in 1979 and ended in 1990 with the keyboardist’s tragic death – these stellar shows capture that incarnation in peak form. Among the long list of highlights are performances of live staples such as “Eyes Of The World,” “Wharf Rat” and “I Need A Miracle,” along with rarities like “To Lay Me Down,” which was played only a few times in 1989. The July 13 show also features the band road-testing “I Will Take You Home,” a track Mydland wrote with Dead lyricist John Perry Barlow that would appear later that fall on Built To Last.
Release Date: 11/10/17
Limited Edition of 15,000
A Dead.net Exclusive
R.F.K. Stadium, Washington, D.C. (7/12/89)
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RIP Walter Becker
Damn we're on the same wavelength at least in these areas. My friends keep trying to get me to go kindle....uh no thanks. And paper maps? The day they stop making them I'm screwed
Walter Becker, quite the shock. I was a Dan Fan before I was a DeadHead. Gonna miss those guys, great memories of the only time I saw them back in 73, opened for the Doobie Brothers. RIP
Me too. Flags flying at half mast today.
Jeez. Ya'll this is one of my top 5 favorite bands. Some of the best music in the rock jazz idiom. Im gutted by this!
May I suggest playing AJA today friends. We've lost a biggie today sadly.
Man I'm devastated. As I'm playing Aja. And I Got the News. It comes on Walter is gone at 67!
I'm wrecked on this.
It's all about the music!How about a beta-max release?
If ever there was a medium where size varies endlessly it is in the world of books. Try putting your copy of Chairman Mao's little red one next to your world atlas to see what size variations are possible. Typically, bookshelves are amongst the most unruly domestic storage areas that exist. Even libraries struggle. As for owning or even reading books being the preserve of dinosaurs, then I fall into that category of extinct lizards (though I consider myself neither a lizard nor extinct). Talking books? E-readers? Digital paper? Ain't no part of nuthin' as far as I'm concerned. Even better than a good book is a good map - you know, those things that you can unfold and never fold up again the same way as it was before.
Or at least burn CD-R copies and store the original somewhere else.
Gotta admit buying a music release based on the size of the package is a little bit wierd to me. I just put the discs in those God awful blank jewell cases and the box plus ephemera go a the end of my book shelf. Oh my did I say book I am a dinosaur.
Hahaha that's a good one. At the top of this page it clearly states: "The collection’s colorful slip case features original artwork by Justin Helton and a perfect-bound book with in-depth liner notes written by Dean Budnick, editor-in-chief of Relix magazine." Why then would anyone think that they haven't figured the packaging out yet? As for sending out the discs individually using old AOL mailers, well if you believe that then you are surely beyond help!
@Romberg: If the packaging size is the most important aspect of this release for you, then I do not think it is a good idea to purchase this as it is a release where the music is the most important thing. However, as size is obviously also important, I can assure you that the music will be on standard size CDs which will fit into and play in any CD player.
I'm not talking about this rumor. I'm asking if this means they haven't figured out the box itself. The stamping process has to be an issue in my opinion. I haven't heard of AOL mailers so I'm scared a little bit.
There is no truth to the rumor that they are just going to send out the discs individually using old AOL mailers.
I decided not to wait any longer.
The question I have for everybody is does this mean they haven't figured the packaging out yet? Also wandering if they're trying to set a benchmark for future releases.
Everybody keeps talking about the 78 box. I agree with Jim. The warehouse bankruptcy screwed this boxset up. By the time it was fixed we were preordering something else.
Just got my statement. They deduct the money when you order
Piano rolls - At least we could make Keith sound like he had 12 fingers!
8-Track - what a lousy piece of equipment these things were. I must have installed 100 of those things back in the day. Never owned one. The track always seemed to change in the middle of the best part of a song. When they got old and curled a little you'd hear two tracks at once and the "head" adjustment couldn't correct it out. They all ate tapes at some point. If you were lucky just the tape got eating and came out when the tape was removed. Un-lucky and the tape would curl around something inside and you'd have to open the unit up to remove the pieces of tape! Also they caused lots of broken car glass from people stealing 8 track tape boxes filled with tapes.
Cassettes - Were a great medium for the day. Store bought cassettes sucked, the cases were thin, cheap plastic that would warp and stick in the player. The tape was thinner and would eventually get ate. The maxells were made to last forever (well a long time), I have tapes made in 1980 that still play just fine. I think all my cassette players also died from rotten belts. My old Sony Walkman's belts died about a year ago.
And Jim, just to rub your nose in it (and top), I have the Cornell Limited wax cyclinder number 1 (lowest I ever got,,,, to date,,, I'm hopeing for better)
Reached #19 on the Billboard sales chart. Their best selling album since In The Dark.
Forgot all about that one.
I hear that player piano paper punch rolls are making a comeback too. I wonder how DaP 23 sounds with all instruments transcribed to piano.
Been on a bit of an old vinyl binge lately too, mostly the unDead. Glad I saved my entire collection, started over 40 years ago. Had a friend who had a few thousand LPs that he partly replaced with CDs, then sold the batch to a used record store a decade or so ago for only a few hundred dollars. I tried to stop him, to no avail. He just wanted to make some space, but I bet he regrets it now - it was a good collection, and older than mine. He let me claim 10-20 of my favorites from his collection before he shuttled them away.
I vaguely remember my Dad's player being the only format he had The Beatles Rain.
I was 16 or so (mid '80s)...my stepfather had "Animals" on 8 track...yada yada yada...The family stereo played 1 track forward & 1 track backward simultaneously...yada yada yada...my head exploded.
I was just spinning my Cornell Wax Cylinder - Limited Edition this morning. My lowest release number ever.. #2.
Do I remember 8 tracks? Yep, but I prefer the sound of Edison wax cylinders...
My first GD exposure was 8 track. Ha.. that's one medium I wont miss. I guess I had a bad machine, it kept eating all my tapes. It was really a bad technology... Cassettes were much more reliable.. and contrary to popular belief, I do not see them making a robust comeback.
My prized Nak died about ten years back.. the belts had all dry rotted and it started to play reeeeaaaaalllllyyyyyy sssslllllloooooowwwwwww. There is no advantage to cassettes over CD's as far as I can tell, and a lot of drawbacks. I do see the Vinyl appeal, but 8 tracks and cassettes, I just don't see this becoming a wave.
The limited announcement yesterday did what it was meant to do in piquing my interest, but I'm still on the fence. These could probably be broken down to 4-5 discs, and there probably won't be any filler, and once again I'll be miffed at short discs, though this time for 65 bucks for 2 shows. I think I'd find 5/8-9/77 as a 2 show box for 65 bucks to be pricey, so it has nothing to do with Brent or '80s hate. I actually like Summer '89-Summer '90 a lot, they were playing at the peak of that incarnation, as evidenced by how much of it's been released. (But feel free to throw this post back at me if they offer a 2 show box of RFK '73 for the same price and I buy it the minute it's announced, because that would likely be my reaction to that RFK box.)
The book is probably nice, and I love the books in the boxes. The books are what I really miss about Spring '90 and Europe '72 (though I really love the idea of the steamer trunk). If it's around next year and I got the extra cash, I'll get it. If I miss out, I'll survive, and enjoy the subscription for Dave's 2018 and next year's big box.
5K will be added to the available quantity at some point. It's gone down exactly as I posted it would, although I'm surprised they're going with 15K. They still started with 10K and are now down to 3800 - 3900. Sales, Space Brother are at 6200 roughly, which leaves about 8800 left (5K which muse still be added). I'm not sure what numbers are "more or less brisk", but these are the facts. Brisk is relative I guess. Bottom line is that a good seller is great for us all.
I hear eight-track is on the rebound. Might want to fish around the yard sales for one of those Panasonic boom boxes with 8-track, AM/FM and a cool shoulder strap for rocking the 'hood. At least they still make D-cells.
Glad to see the RFK '89 box going limited. Why not?
I like physical product. Blu-ray's, cd's, more than just download. That being said I fleshed out my missing Dick's Picks off iTunes for a fraction of the cost of what the cd's have gone up to now.
There's something reassuring about the certainty of a tangible, physical product on my shelf, should (God forbid) my laptop get stolen/destroyed, hard drive crash, etc. I have so much music from so many sources - friends who have kindly loaned things, items from the public library, iTunes and other downloadable sources, etc. It would be impossible to remember it all, were it to be lost or corrupted, however I know those cd's sitting on the shelves aren't going anywhere and as much of a pain in the ass it is to burn them all in, it's a 100% backup. I have Carbonite cloud backup as well as a portable hard drive but I don't trust it.
That pole freak on Veneta is the ultimate acid casualty. Most people made it through but some of them just fried. If that dude is still breathing, he's drooling right now.
I have two Blue Ray and a DVD in the living room..
I found myself nodding to what the Ice Cream Kid had to say.. mhammond too. Thin is clearly correct in what he wrote.. but I have one subtle comment to add.
I got into a back and forth email chain with Lemieux a few years ago about DVD's, etc. I think it was when the other Alpine show came out, and I missed it due to work.. so there was a little bite in my initial outreach.
He did reply.. at length. Keeping in mind.. he was hired as the video archivist as Dick was still alive and well back then. His comment was layered, he was clearly keeping certain things close to his chest, but it was revealing nonetheless.
I think the issue with video in general is the market is more segmented and aggregate demand has not justified all the costs involved getting this to market (my words, not his..).
The 16,500 number (soon to be higher) is a magic number for vault releases in 2017. Keep in mind Terrapin Limited is still for sale, I'm quite sure it is limited and it has been for sale since 1997. There are tons of deadheads but not everyone has to have the 150 or shows that have already been officially released (what is that number again?). At this point, it is a numbers game for them and contrary to popular believe, once everyone (including the band) gets their cut I doubt if there are mountains of money left over.
So back to the video topic.. Dave is all in with video releases. The hesitancy is not on his part. Rhino sells CD's and records.. DVD and Blue Ray is more like an after dinner mint for them.. if they sell and they make a ton of money on them, they'd do more. Reading between the lines from the correspondence all those years ago, there simply is not a terrific demand for GD DVD's. I can't get enough myself, but I say the same thing about the official CD releases too.
Another factor is very few were recorded on film, most (the 89 and go forward material) was recorded on the crappy 4" tape common at the time. Find your favorite 1989 sitcom, go to YouTube and watch it.. it's grainy and has the same limitations as the stuff directed (recorded) by Len Dell'Amico during the late 80's. The video will not get better regardless of the medium as the source tapes are subpar. The sound, on the other hand, can benefit from the better mediums... depending on a few things...
But look at this another way.. they do have a good bit of video recorded, some of it is pretty damned good. Most of it does have those distracting special affects baked right in. It will get released one day, perhaps they are just keeping their powder dry for when demand picks up a bit. If there are still some SSDD left and I bet they have a ton of the Fare Thee Well left (back to the numbers thing...) my guess is they are just biding their time and will begin releasing them when demand exceeds their magic number.
I do prefer Blue Ray, it could be a dying medium, probably because it costs more and people are streaming a lot these days. Us hard-core, especially the audiophiles, will want DVD or probably Blue Ray. I really don't see that changing, streaming is not going to take precedent over the physical product for the person that just shelled out $12,000 for their new surround sound system. ..but who knows for sure what the future will bring except that quack Ray Kurzweil (yes.. I said that).
If you made it through this post.. congrats and accept my apologies.. dry stuff.. but we like the GOGD and there's nothing boring about being there, front row center in the comforts of your own living room.
I was about to guess it's a hipster thing, but apparently Justin Bieber had something to do with it.
Which doesn't make sense either way...
Dead.net, please put the packaging dimensions in the description. I'd like to buy this but I need to know if it will fit on a CD shelf. I've been burned too many times on oversized packaging to blind buy a Grateful Dead box set ever again without knowing he packaging dimensions first. Thanks!
Numbered or Limited sets don't sound any different to me. Fact is that has nothing to do with my motivation on buying GD stuff. Actually I think I might offer a swap of my GSTL Limited box to someone who really must have it in exchange for a music only set.
For the amount of bother to try and turn one of these things for the little profit, just wouldn't be worth my time.
Yes I know some sets bring big pricing. Theres the moral thing as has been discussed too.
All n All Im after the music.
Weekend is HERE!!! 24th Anniversary is the biggie in my trailer park. Taking the wife out for Bar-B-Que and a night at the Shooting Range! Woo-Hoo!!! 9/3/93
Spacebro - You are correct, sir. I forgot there was a DVD/Blu-ray segmentation in the Veneta release. How many Blu-rays did they produce? I don't recall how fast the DVD's sold out. I guess I passed on that because I didn't have Blu-ray AND I'm not enthralled with DVD vid quality, which is like a 720 vs 1080 pixel format (if someones previous post was accurate). I didn't really want to see Polesitter dude in 1080 OR 720 pixels - LOL.
As I said earlier, I hope for both our sakes that they continue with the '89 releases. There's a ton of great stuff from that era sitting in the vault. Once the video format gets sorted out, I think we'll see a LOT of '89-'90's releases.
re: Cassettes - I've heard they ARE making a comeback. Martin Sexton was on "Above the Basement" recently (highly recommended Boston-area music podcast) and he mentioned that he recently issued his recent release "Mixtape from the Road" on cassette as a novelty item and said they sold out of 1,000 of these in just a week or two, to his amazement. I blame the "Guardians of the Galaxy" movie series for romanticizing the format. https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/above-the-basement-boston-music-and-con...
I didn't imply that '89 was more popular than '72. They did sell out the 12,500 CD/DVD copies and the 5k run of vinyl of the 8/27/72 show. The non-exclusive version sold everywhere (Amazon, Best Buy ect) else probably did well (for GD sales in this day and age).
Part of my point was that some downplay the demand for '80's releases. If they've sold roughly 10k out of the 15k they will produce of these RFK '89 sets since the announcement, that's about on par with the number of people who buy subscriptions for Dave's Picks and not too shabby.
I do agree with your point that physical media such as blu-ray, DVD, CD and everything else is taking a hit because of downloadable and streaming media. Kids these days are becoming more interested in listening and watching on their smart phones.
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I enabled "allow third-party cookies" in the browser settings after getting advise on this very board.
Worked like a charm.
Very strange but yes here in the US they are also gaining a little steam. The local record stores are starting to carry them as well as some releases are coming cd/vinyl/tape.
Spacebro - Thanks for helping make my Blu-ray point. 8/27/72 is indeed still available after 4 years sitting on the shelf despite only producing 12,500 copies, but I find your conclusion that this means 80's is more popular than '72 laughable (respectfully) - it is rather a reflection on Blu-ray, per my previous post. 8/27/72 was a single show plus Blu-ray for $55. That is the only release I have never purchased because I don't have Blu-ray and I didn't want to blow $55 + shipping for 3 CD's I already have (from my DAT days) in pretty darn good quality. (And Mr. Polesitter guy in hi-def NOT a draw)
I also doubt they have sold as much of this '89 box as you think - when they plugged the initial number into "inventory" they hadn't yet decided the final production #. Probably input a nice round 10k, not the current 15k you are using in your math. But I could be wrong. We'll find out the next time they update the site. But going numbered/limited edition should boost sales of this box.
So ALL the other releases/boxes have sold out or are close to it - most at 15k units or more - while the relatively low 12,500-unit EPIC Veneta show released 4 YEARS AGO on Blu-ray still sits on the shelf... this is why they aren't releasing more Blu-ray....
edit: icecrmkid I just saw your post. I'm not saying Blu-ray is going away forever (though Betamax, Laserdisc, Selectavision, and DIVX did), but the dream of Blu-ray becoming the universal video standard, like CD is for audio, is dead. Again, I think they are waiting for a ubiquitous video format relevant to ALL before releasing more video. Veneta teaches us that Blu-ray is not the answer.
Try enabling cookies, if only for the duration of the ordering process. Others have had the same problem (see earlier posts) and this seemed to be the solution.
I don't know about the US of A, but here in Europe cassettes are making something of a comeback, something which I find to be totally bizarre. The obvious first question is "Why?".
Is anyone else having problems ordering online? I select add to my cart, but when I go to my shopping cart, it says there is nothing in it. Tried on a couple of different computers, same thing. I'm logged in so I'm not sure what could be causing the problem??
Guess that confirms what Thin was saying. DVD's sold out, Blu Rays still available. People don't want to upgrade to Blu Ray.
I bought the DVD upon release because I didn't have a Blu Ray player at the time. A few weeks ago I decided that I would buy the Blu Ray to see if it was better quality than the DVD. Not sure if there can be a difference for a movie from 1972 (there is an amazing difference with the FTW Blu Rays which are 1080p and the live stream recordings which are 720p). But I never got around to ordering it. I better do that before it sells out.
As for Blu Ray being a dying format? Isn't that what people said about vinyl? Same for CD's.
Taylor Swift sets records for downloads, Dead-net sells CD's to people who gobble them up and bitch if they miss out.
Have to know your clientele and the format they want.
Probably safe to say that 8-track and cassettes aren't coming back.
Streaming is not the solution, it's slow, especially when a lot of people in the area are playing video games. Sometimes it doesn't work at all. A few days ago I didn't have cable or internet because Comcast was having and outage. But my CD player and Blu Ray player worked flawlessly.
I think that they put a "hold" on your charge account, but bill for real at the time of realece.
If you use a credit card you get charged now. Don't know how a debit card works.
How does the presale work? Do they charge at time of order or when it ships?
Now that we know it is limited and numbered, and that there are around or between 4k to 5k left, that means sales have been more brisk than some here have eluded to. I'm glad to see that because even an average show from '89 is at a high bar.
There are even Sunshine Daydream 8/27/72 CD/blu-ray sets still available out of 12,500, and that's THEE holy grail release, and that one came out 4 years ago. Don't know if anybodies checked the cart to see how many of those are still available.
Numbering them might mean something if they made any effort whatsoever to put numbers with when you bought them. But as any experienced buyer knows you can buy the Dave sub 30 min from going up for sale and still end up with # 14356. I guess I shouldn't complain. I just received my 3 framed lithos ltd to 500 fron Jerry. They were unnumbered wtf?.
Came across this today. Loved as a kid, bought Liszt’s Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 when I was about 18/19 based on memory of this cartoon.
Just got the e-mail that these shows will now be numbered, at 15,000. Numbered = smart. $65 +shipping ain't cheap, but the limited sets maintain their value which helps justify the cost, especially to spouses. (Will probably be available for download cheaper, but the downloads have zero residual value). It's not about trying to flip it for profit - it's about knowing they will maintain their value. Again, my wife used to complain when I'd spend $ on these releases until she saw they maintain their value, and might even appreciate. Now she doesn't even look at me twice when they arrive on the doorstep.
15,000 count may be aggressive, but what do I know? The important thing is that they are FINALLY releasing more of these awesome '89 shows - can't wait to get it in my hands and give it a good listen. Bring more HQ Summer/Fall 89's! A nice complement to the Spring '90 boxes.
Blu-ray is dieing because people stream movies and tv series but it's an excellent format for music. I don't mind streaming movies and tv series (don't watch much anyway) but for music played through high end systems I prefer physical product.