Grateful Dead

Spring 1990 (The Other One) Box

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What's Inside:
144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
8 complete shows on 23 discs
      3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

Listening Party: 3/29/90, Nassau Coliseum With Branford Marsalis, Set 2

Enjoy the 2nd set of 3/29/90!

Listening Party, Part 2

Enjoy a track from each show!

Listening Party, Part 1

Enjoy a track from each show!

Seaside Chat: David Lemieux On The Branford Show

Unveiling Spring 1990 (TOO)

Talkin' Spring 1990 Too With Bob Weir, Jeffrey Norman And Branford Marsalis

David Lemieux on What’s Inside Spring 1990 (The Other One)

Product Details

Show #1
Capital Center, Landover, MD (3/14/90)


Disc 1
1. COLD RAIN AND SNOW [6:56]
2. FEEL LIKE A STRANGER [7:44]
3. NEVER TRUST A WOMAN [6:27]
4. MAMA TRIED> [2:31]
5. BIG RIVER [5:21]
6. LOOSE LUCY [6:56]
7. STUCK INSIDE OF MOBILE WITH THE MEMPHIS BLUES AGAIN [8:50]
8. ROW JIMMY [10:17]
9. LET IT GROW [11:54]

Disc 2
1. CRAZY FINGERS> [8:12]
2. PLAYING IN THE BAND> [10:27]
3. UNCLE JOHN'S BAND> [8:05]
4. JAM> [7:12]
5. DRUMS> [7:38]
6. SPACE> [6:34]
7. DEAR MR. FANTASY> [5:53]
8. I NEED A MIRACLE> [4:07]
9. BLACK PETER> [7:53]
10. TURN ON YOUR LOVELIGHT [6:01]
11. BLACK MUDDY RIVER [6:00]

Show #2
Civic Center, Hartford, CT (3/18/90)


Disc 1
1. SHAKEDOWN STREET> [12:45]
2. LITTLE RED ROOSTER [9:28]
3. STAGGER LEE [5:29]
4. ME AND MY UNCLE> [3:08]
5. MEXICALI BLUES [5:22]
6. FRIEND OF THE DEVIL [8:44]
7. JUST A LITTLE LIGHT [5:55]
8. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [5:32]
9. RAMBLE ON ROSE [8:02]
10. THE MUSIC NEVER STOPPED [7:38]

Disc 2
1. IKO IKO [8:08]
2. LOOKS LIKE RAIN [8:27]
3. HE'S GONE> [8:56]
4. TRUCKIN'> [8:54]
5. SPOONFUL> [7:19]
6. DRUMS [6:52]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [11:23]
2. THE WHEEL> [5:49]
3. ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER> [6:06]
4. MORNING DEW [11:32]
5. U.S. BLUES [5:31]

Show #3
Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (3/21/90)


Disc 1
1. MISSISSIPPI HALF-STEP UPTOWN TOODELOO [8:33]
2. NEW MINGLEWOOD BLUES [7:36]
3. FAR FROM ME [5:05]
4. QUEEN JANE APPROXIMATELY [6:29]
5. LOOSE LUCY [7:27]
6. VICTIM OR THE CRIME> [8:07]
7. STANDING ON THE MOON> [8:00]
8. PROMISED LAND [4:53]

Disc 2
1. HEY POCKY WAY [7:10]
2. CRAZY FINGERS> [07:38]
3. CUMBERLAND BLUES [5:30]
4. ESTIMATED PROPHET> [11:51]
5. HE'S GONE> [12:42]
6. DRUMS> [9:37]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [7:39]
2. I NEED A MIRACLE> [4:16]
3. WHARF RAT> [8:41]
4. THROWING STONES> [8:59]
5. TURN ON YOUR LOVELIGHT [6:51]
6. KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR [7:10]

Show #4
Knickerbocker Arena, Albany NY (3/25/90)


Disc 1
1. GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD> [4:06]
2. TOUCH OF GREY [6:42]
3. WANG DANG DOODLE [7:22]
4. NEVER TRUST A WOMAN [7:36]
5. JACK-A-ROE [4:36]
6. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [5:27]
7. BIRD SONG [13:08]
8. LET IT GROW [11:36]

Disc 2
1. EYES OF THE WORLD> [13:26]
2. SAMSON AND DELILAH [7:47]
3. CRAZY FINGERS> [7:21]
4. TRUCKIN'> [7:43]
5. SPOONFUL> [5:37]
6. DRUMS [9:59]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [8:58]
2. I WILL TAKE YOU HOME> [4:18]
3. GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELING BAD> [6:58]
4. BLACK PETER> [9:09]
5. AROUND AND AROUND [6:45]
6. THE MIGHTY QUINN (QUINN THE ESKIMO) [4:40]

Show #5 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (3/28/90)

Disc 1
1. COLD RAIN AND SNOW> [6:29]
2. NEW MINGLEWOOD BLUES [7:27]
3. EASY TO LOVE YOU [5:48]
4. HIGH TIME [6:14]
5. QUEEN JANE APPROXIMATELY [6:32]
6. LOOSE LUCY [6:11]
7. CASSIDY> [6:06]
8. DEAL [8:18]

Disc 2
1. FOOLISH HEART> [10:21]
2. LOOKS LIKE RAIN> [8:09]
3. CUMBERLAND BLUES> [5:50]
4. THE WEIGHT [5:46]
5. HEY POCKY WAY> [x:xx]
6. DRUMS [11:17]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [9:22]
2. THE OTHER ONE> [6:52]
3. WHARF RAT> [10:35]
4. GOOD LOVIN' [7:52]
5. REVOLUTION [4:55]

Show #6
Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (3/29/90)


Disc 1
1. JACK STRAW> [6:15]
2. BERTHA [6:59]
3. WE CAN RUN [6:04]
4. RAMBLE ON ROSE [8:08]
5. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [6:02]
6. BIRD SONG> [13:05]
7. PROMISED LAND [4:46]

Disc 2
1. EYES OF THE WORLD> [16:33]
2. ESTIMATED PROPHET> [14:47]
3. DARK STAR> [18:19]
4. DRUMS [10:22]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [7:53]
2. DARK STAR> [2:46]
3. THE WHEEL> [4:23]
4. THROWING STONES> [9:25]
5. TURN ON YOUR LOVELIGHT [7:41]
6. KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR [8:24]

Show #7
The Omni, Atlanta, GA (4/1/90)


Disc 1
1. TOUCH OF GREY [6:41]
2. WALKIN' BLUES [6:27]
3. JUST A LITTLE LIGHT [6:12]
4. CANDYMAN [7:20]
5. ME AND MY UNCLE> [3:05]
6. BIG RIVER [5:28]
7. ALTHEA [8:09]
8. VICTIM OR THE CRIME> [9:55]
9. TO LAY ME DOWN> [9:24]
10. THE MUSIC NEVER STOPPED [7:55]

Disc 2
1. CHINA CAT SUNFLOWER> [5:33]
2. I KNOW YOU RIDER [4:51]
3. SHIP OF FOOLS> [7:50]
4. MAN SMART, WOMAN SMARTER> [7:54]
5. DRUMS [7:30]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [11:48]
2. DEAR MR. FANTASY> [5:42]
3. HEY JUDE> [2:37]
4. TRUCKIN'> [7:00]
5. STELLA BLUE> [10:21]
6. SUGAR MAGNOLIA [9:15]
7. IT'S ALL OVER NOW BABY BLUE [7:40]

Show #8
The Omni, Atlanta, GA (4/3/90)


Disc 1
1. SHAKEDOWN STREET [12:15]
2. HELL IN A BUCKET> [6:17]
3. SUGAREE [11:24]
4. WE CAN RUN [6:55]
5. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [5:17]
6. ROW JIMMY [10:11]
7. PICASSO MOON [7:14]
8. TENNESSEE JED> [7:39]
9. PROMISED LAND [4:42]

Disc 2
1. ESTIMATED PROPHET> [14:03]
2. SCARLET BEGONIAS> [6:57]
3. CRAZY FINGERS> [8:06]
4. PLAYING IN THE BAND> [11:40]
5. DRUMS [8:17]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [6:56]
2. I WILL TAKE YOU HOME> [4:17]
3. GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELING BAD> [6:14]
4. THROWING STONES> [8:42]
5. NOT FADE AWAY [7:27]
6. WE BID YOU GOODNIGHT [3:14]

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Fall '72

Very happy about this pick! Great set list, playing, and era for recordings - what more could you ask for? I do hope in the future we get an 80s pick with some of the early versions of In The Dark tunes (early 80s) - but for now I am content to wait, especially with plenty of Brent being provided with the TOO box.

I think Dave has been very adventurous with his picks and the only pick that isn't as solid as I would like is the '78 pick but its true to the year and I think I will just have to go back and try it again.

Getting into the 90's is risky for me- I really like some of it but there are a lot of pitfalls - thin bass sound, guitars sounding too metal, midi (some is good, others not so much), electronic drums, calypso keys, bad vocals, missed lyrics - some of these negatives are in a lot of the eras but sometimes the later era playing could not make up for it.

Just my opinion to each his own- but is the call for more '90s based more on nostalgia or is it really for the playing - playing wise I just don't see how that version of the band could hold a candle to fall '72-'74.

Hoping for another '73 box in 2015 - Utica, Nassau, Boston run...

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All the years combine

Before the belief is paraded that pre 80's is "the best" Dead, perhaps it's worth remembering the entire Spring '90 tour is now released. The best Grateful Dead? Any night they are on is the best Grateful Dead, IMO.

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Volume 11 cover art....

...if it doesn't have a Wizard of Oz or Superman/Smallville reference, I'll be surprised.

Methinks a tornado is in order....

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Debate and Criticism are good -- IMHO!

Sometimes they go over the line but in general we should welcome them. I doubt Dave is offended, but, it will make him stronger eventually.

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We'll said Katky

'Not to be a downer, but please folks. We hear ya that you want more 80's, more 90's and that you are subjected to way too much 70's and 60's. But Holy SHIT if you don't get the fact that these were the years that the Dead were in their peak you simply don't get it. Someone has to say it, but wake up. I get the fact that many caught their first show in the last half and want more releases from that era, but compared to the pre 80's this was lacking in so so many ways. Bobby likes to point out that the later years were tight, but it's simply not the case musically.
The releases are way too many for complainers and to see the 90's box release after the 90 a spring would make most thank their lucky stars the the PTB have heard you, bent over backwards and fulfilled your wildest dreams. But still the complaints continue. Thank God Dave is in charge, we have person who's first Dead experience is late Dead, has access to the entire history and as much as he would love to push his era, still gets the fact that pre 80's is the best of the best.
Love for all to be fulfilled, but if anything the Dead have done right, it's providing a proper history lesson of what they were and the material that represented their best efforts. Yes they had larger crowds in the later years, but those numbers never represented the best music they produced. For a clearer picture of that fact just check out the top selling albums in Rolling Stone each month, great #ers,rating, etc, pure garbage.
Give Dave Break and take what you like and avoid not your taste, not that hard.

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Younger-yet-not-smarter-than-ye

Funny, the crowd at Archive may be older - and sometimes grumpier, though certainly not more factionalized - but they damn well know their Dead. Your post is hyperbolic to the point of fiction: "even though 68-77 is prime dead" and/or "the famous years", Dave has allegedly "taken the safe option most times" by selecting shows from this self-admittedly peak era. Oi vey. I realize that I likely just fed the troll, but c'mon.../K

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72 Again?

Hi people,

Aussie Dead fan here. Anyone else not excited about the new Dave's Picks release? I just feel like he has taken the safe option most times. The man even started the series with a show from May '77.

1990 is my favourite year and even though 68-77 is prime Dead I would love to see some 80's releases. Dick's Picks 21 (11.1.85) kicks major ass. Awesome Dead.

Daves's Picks 7 & 8 were nice changes of pace (78 & 80) and I always welcome a 1969 album but I think he needs to lay off the famous years for a few releases. Road Trips Vol.2 No.4 Cal Expo '93 is sooo much fun to hear. Great release!

Some mid 80's Dead (not the safe 1989 option) or even some post 1990 Dead would be a nice change of pace. The Dick's Picks releases were great because chances were taken (just like the band)

Imagine this place go off if a 1994 release was coming...

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Terrapin Limited...

Back in stock in the store.

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Neb and SFW

Neb - wow, that sounds fantastic, can't wait to hear it. I'll be sending you something in return soon... Right you are about the PM, I basically never check that (not sure why). But I do check my email a lot - so that email address I sent you is a good way... Hopefully A/F will tour soon.. would love to see them (going to see White Denim in September, actually at a pretty small club in Western Mass, so pretty thrilled about that).

Sanfran - holy crap, really, you live in the Berkshires? Agreed about last March (and much of April for that matter) - especially since we were starting a farm. (Been a freaking gorgeous summer though). I'll send you a PM with my email (for reason stated above!)

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@giantnerd

Check your PM.

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@johnny361

I bought 2 Dave's Picks subscriptions (one for my friend) and I always get the notice for each one at different times. You can ways log into the site and check on your order for reassurance, but if they sent them to you before you should be good.

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4/71 DS

Ok, so it's not Dave's 10, it's RT 1.3 (summer '71) & "24 of Hank Williams' Greatest Hits" --what could be better road music than that?

Yeah, I hadn't heard that 4/28 Dark Star in a long time, I remembered it being kind of short--was really delighted how rich it is.

Ok, I'm really running away from the 'puter now..... (anybody remember Deathlok?)

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4/71

4/28 Dark Star is love!
A Box of 4/71 Fillmore East complete shows would get nothing but love from me! Probably impossible due to guest artists issues, but maybe it will be part of the 50th Year releases?

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off to the forest....

Heading out to an overnight musical jamboree in the forest. For driving soundtrack, will replace Ladies & Gentlemen (its Dark Star jam being perhaps TC's finest moment--perhaps tied with Caution jam from Dave's 10) with Dick's 36 (released 9 years ago, as opposed to Sunshine Daydream, released 1 year ago)...which itself boasts a fine He's Gone > Other One from 9-03-72 in anticipation of Dave's 11.

Maybe I'll pack Dave's 10 also, and Eric Dolphy's Out to Lunch.

Happy Saturday all...!

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Dave's Picks

I can see the point of more variety. I can also see the point of being completely STOKED for fall 72!! :)

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E-Mail

Any other subscribers not receive the e-mail about vol.11?

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If only other Bands realized they should have been recording it.

Another great week in DeadLand. Excited for the folks who are lovin the 90's Box. Personally it does nothing for me, but that's a stash of cash still in the BAccount, good for me. Dave 72 right up my ally, but still hear the folks wanting more from Dave in Diversity. Kick myself for not hearing about DAP's till about a year and 1/2 ago. Missed out on some great shows, especially Pauley P from 73. That year really amuses the S..... out of me. Let's be a Jazz band for a year, Brillant.
I've always been of the opinion that if the Dead had figured out a way to have gotten a lot of these releases in the Day they would have exploded. That might have been a bad thing, who knows. But remember Europe 72 3 record blowing people away that only casually liked the Dead.
We are so lucky that the dead spent the extra cash ( something they were very good at) to record a ton of stuff. They didn't fly the Grateful Dead Jet and surely didn't make much cash for most of their careers, had way too many on the payroll which for all intents kept them from caving to the record industry and kept going on their own path.
Claney, I also live in the Berks and am lucky to do so, except for this past March. Heading to Gathering in a couple weeks? If so give me a shout, I'll buy you a clean crisp Rollin Rock.

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11/17/72 - Clue Recap

Yes...very well done, Zuckfun. Being the first to guess 11/17/72 was very impressive.

bolo24: I would also enjoy your breakdown of the clues, when you get a chance. The obvious hints were Sugaree, Box of Rain, Brokedown Palace Casey Jones and Johnny B Goode.

Thanks.

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Dantian- Thanks, but...

I know about the torrent option. I have have a few reasons why i haven't gotten into that world, but If I ever buy a new laptop I will.
There are some very kind people out there who make a practice of pulling torrent posts and then making that content available as D/Ls from free-access storage sites. I rely on these people's kindness for more than half the music I accrue each month. One of these people is currently engaged in posting every non-released Dead show from '69, but he is in the middle of relocating and so his internet access and time for this project has been extremely limited. He is still working through February (2/7 is a super-high quality sdbd of hot music!). My policy is to buy what is commercially released and happily D/L whatever I see that isn't commercially available.

Thanks for the suggestion. I hope other folks take your advice. Almost every concert you can think of was recorded by somebody (or the sdbd has slipped into fans' hands) and can be found as a torrent! You need plenty of free Hard Drive space and a willingness to allow remote access to your HD. If that is no problem for you, you are able to access 1000s of shows, Dead and otherwise!

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*sniff*

My Dick Latvala signed Dick's Picks cd just arrived.. I could cry.

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Spring 90 Too

I wonder how many of the Spring 90 Too sets have sold. If there's any left in a couple weeks I may have to take the plunge. I would think if they were down significantly they would show it on the site. Tempting I must say. Reassuring knowing there will be digital format although still no word on individual shows.

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Hey Seth

Google "Bittorrent" and "etree.org"

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Hey GDM

I want more 80s/90s releases (God, I am SUCH a troll!). 70s releases are great too.
Dave's Picks are not enough!
Last year I suggested a series focussing on releasing the Charlie Miller remasters. I suggest it again. There are hundreds of well mastered soundboards that Charlie miller has worked on. GDM has blocked the downloading of these works from LMA. How about you and Charlie get together and make some money! The masters are ready, so that cost is eliminated.
Dave's Picks are not enough!

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Disclaimer:

Disclaimer: I say this everytime I listen to a new Dead or Jerry release.

This GarciaLive Volume 4 might be my favorite so far. Great fat sound, great recording, nice vocals. How sweet it is indeed.

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Yo Claney

Writing you here since I know you don't often see PMs.... Just wanted you to know that I didn't make the P.O. here in my small town before they closed today, so your package will go out on Monday. Sorry for the delay, but it will be worth the wait! I'll be mailing you a treasure trove of live & rare AKAK -- a "freak-folk" soundtrack for psychedelic travels.

Peace,
Neb

PS - ANYONE reading this who is interested in an Akron/Family sampler can PM me & I'll be happy to turn you on.

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Thanks Fennario XRDS

Great candid interview with Hunter!!! I'm excited for the Spring 90 and DaP 11. All good for me. May need to pick up disc only Europe 72 at some point. If only they'd release Fillmore 69 box I'd have every official release, which prob qualifies me for a diagnosis of some sort. I'm visiting beautiful Whidbey Island across the pond from Vancouver Island. I got the binoculars out but no DL sightings for the seaside chat!!!

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high times

these are high times indeed for the tribe
Bremen the other night blew my mind
a crispy fall 72 release on the way
spring 90 for those so inclined
the Branford show in all it's glory
bob, Phil, Mickey and bill still fanning the flame

And the 50th of dead on the horizon

I find all of this extraordinarily fortuitous and choose to let all of it make me happy
If you can't do that yourselves than I truly am sorry for you

PSA the fall 77 road trips still available is shipping with the bonus disc
Anyone wanting my extra copy of the main release hit me up on PM and I'll send it out to you

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Hey Star Dark

I got really bored so I just decided to rip up a 20 dollar bill.
Thank you for the inspiration.

Not one, but two posts about destroying something of value.

Yeah, we get it, you're a troller...congratulations.

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Pelke - clue recap

Out of town for a wedding. I'll do a recap when I get back for those who care. I don't remember everything I said, so I'll have to go back and look at my posts.

By the way, kudos to Zuckfun - he's the first one to go on record with the correct guess.

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12-26-81

Agree with the comment above that this was a great show. I was there, I loved it.

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re: discontent

DL2 has been very transparent about the entire process. The stated mission is to release shows that
a. are well-played
b. sound great
c. are complete
d. not from 1994 and 1995, as the band has squashed those.

He has never stated that the archival series was meant to be representative of their career. It's to bring us the best shows that sound the best.

With those stated criteria, there should be no surprise that the majority of releases are from 1968-1978 (as they have always been; more than 70% of Dick's Picks and Road Trips are also from this time period). DL2 has been very clear that the sound quality of tapes drops off precipitously once you get in to the early 80s. This is also reflected by the shows that have been released. DP13, DP32, DP6, and DP21, while good shows, are amongst the worst-sounding releases in the catalog (The 82 RT is a bit better). Sometimes the quality of the performance can overcome the poor recording quality, sometimes it cannot. I think the fact that 1979, 1980, 1989, and 1990 are well-represented shows that DL2 doesn't have an anti-Brent bias. Rather, there happen to be well-recorded shows from these years, and they've been released. 1990 in particular, is more represented than any other GD year excepting 1972.

Prior to 1980, there just happen to be a higher proportion of well-played shows and a higher proportion of well-recorded shows. That's all.

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72

Aside from the special releases (SSDD and E72 - and can you really complain about those releases?) no show from 72 has seen the light of day since Dicks Picks 36 back in 2005. It was not represented in the Road Trips Series nor in Dave's so far. In terms of subscriptions and regular programming, we haven't seen 72 for nine years. Considering the level of play and the quality of these recordings, where's the beef? Since RT started, we've seen as much 93 as 72.

And at the risk of poking a bear with a stick, we've been over saturated with the 80s in the last ten years. That and all that terrible 69 and 74. It's so frustrating as a fan that they were so well recorded, so creative and consistently on fire during those years.

So please no more 80s and 90s unless it is a great show with great playing and recorded well. And I hope I don't have to wait another 9 years for another 72 show in the series (please sometime before DaP 47!)

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Interesting interview of Hunter in the WSJ blog

HUNTER: I wrote the words for “Touch of Grey” for a planned solo album that was dragging along. My version was much slower and Jerry asked if I minded him recasting it for the Grateful Dead. I And all of a sudden we had a hit single and I had enough money to buy a house.

Interviewer: That song changed everything for the band.

HUNTER: We were just about done. The Grateful Dead was virtually broke and there wasn’t enough money coming into the enterprise to cover expenses. I’m actually glad the success didn’t happen earlier because to my way of thinking everything went wonky after that. The old days were gone. There was suddenly huge money, which simply attracts huge problems.

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/07/18/lyricist-robert-hunter-on-finding-words-for-the-grateful-dead/

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Stoked

so, it's a rainy Saturday and I have some time to reflect and I want to sum it up into one word.......

First, the Meet Up at the Movies was awesome. The sound quality and video was amazing. You got a really good example of that magic "chugging" rhythm that makes the Dead unique. Only loud clean tight playing makes that chug. Mr Charlie being the standout for this. I could barely keep still wanting to move the music. I loved the bands gear shots as well. I really hope this comes out on DVD, cause I think a lot of people once they bought it would be really stoked.

Secondly, though my favorite era and years of the Dead are 1972 to 1979, specifically, 74 and 76, the awesome quality of the Spring 90 set soon to be released has me super stoked, that I will be able to complete my Spring 90 tour and hear the band at one of their many zeniths.

Last, the announcement of Wichita from fall 1972 has me super super stoked. It's an amazing time for the band and it will be an amazing release with amazing chugging tone and playing.

I'm stoked because we are being treated with so much and in my opinion, a good mix. This entire year has had some great, different, and really cool releases so far. Just imagine if NONE of it was happening? I shudder to think.......

So to end how I began,

I'm stoked

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80's and 90's releases

More will be revealed.

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DaP Subscription

I myself cannot really understand anyone saying that the subscription is too expensive. You get four, 3-disc complete shows plus 1 bonus disc. That is 13 discs for less then $100. That is $7.62 per disc. AND free shipping. Plus what you are receiving is available nowhere else. To me, this is a TREMENDOUS value. If you get a release that you do not want, do not open it and re-sell it. I GUARANTEE you will not lose any money on that sale and then you can sit back and wait for the next release, and it has cost you nothing. This way you will not be 'forced' to have something that you feel is not worthy of your consideration. Am I missing something here? This is a NO BRAINER!
I myself would also like to see a little more variety in the eras released, but I am happy to see what DL releases. The shows always sound great, which to my uneducated mind, is amazing. How they can take tapes that are over 40 years old and restore them to such sonic quality is beyond my comprehension. Plus I love the great artwork and the liner notes.
Maybe you are not happy with a particular release, but I really find it hard to believe that you would not subscribe next year. It is a no lose deal that offers the possibility to everyone that they will get "that" show, or "that" era, that they long for.
Rock on.

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Just a few other thoughts...

Just a few other thoughts...

1) I'd love it if we could all say what we mean and not say it mean. Alas, I can only control myself, so that is what I will do.

2) The lack of Brent/80's releases -- or releases outside of a few choice years -- is a valid complaint. If I went to a buffet that advertised "something for everyone," and they served way more of two or three dishes and barely any of the dishes I loved -- say 6 different types of pizza, but only 1 chicken dish -- I'd be annoyed and might not go back there again.

3) The release of Spring 1990 (TOO) is not, I believe, a valid response to the Dave's Picks needs more of a variety argument. First of all, it's not a Dave's Picks release. I subscribed to Dave's Picks the last two years, and I've gotta say that I've been a little disappointed with the breadth of the release years as well. Second of all, it's expensive. I don't have enough income/savings to buy everything, so I couldn't "spring" (pun intended) for the new box set, and opted for the stand-alone Branford show. But you know what, I was hoping they would've released that show as a Dave's Picks at some point. That would've saved me a some money.

4) I love me some Brent. The most played Dead music for me has Brent playing. Took me a while to hunt down all the View From The Vault Soundtracks, but I did. And I love them. It's not asking too much to throw a little more love for those eras of shows into the mix.

Peace.

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dap 11

yawn, a 72 show with no dark star, not real thrilled about this one, if I had not subscribed, would pass on this.
Call me lame but the only reason I subscribed at all was the release of dap 8. I was really hoping for some more early 80's releases, maybe next time for dap 12. Not gonna subscribe again Dave, sorry.
Look for a lot of this one on ebay soon.

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Folks don't complain about EVERY release...

I don't remember reading any complaints -- other than the price -- about the Spring 1990 (TOO) box. Or about the stand-alone 3/29/90 release. Or Dave's Picks 8. So maybe there's something to be said for more Brent/80's releases.

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Can No Longer Hold Back

I never enter into the trenches of this period/that period discussions posted here, though I sometimes take pleasure in the creativity put forth extolling the virtues of specific eras. However, when I read Star Dark's post, I realized I had to throw in my opinion on top of the heap. (Hate to pile on S.D., but geez!) Here goes:

You're complaining about more stellar '72?!?! Really?!?! I remember a time when Dead releases were so far and few between, I would have settled for the worst 1995 show and STILL have been happy to have it! What the hell are you waiting for?!? That KILLER 6 song first set from Fall '93 featuring the most badass "Greatest Story" ever played? Oh how the ones from 1972 sucked with the pumping groove and rippin' wah wah solos 'till you thought your mind was going to melt! Or how 'bout that acid-drenched "Wave to the Wind" that goes on for 30+ glorious psychedelic minutes, exploring every nook and cranny of your consciousness! And hey, how about we petition for a release of all the "Me & My Uncles" from Spring '94 on one super-duper collector's release, individually signed and numbered, of course.

BE HAPPY WITH WHAT WE ARE GIVEN!!! There was a time when a '72 show was worth it's weight in gold, and yes S.D., there is a plethora of '72 available, but you have got to be the only person here who thinks that's a bad thing. How 'bout puttin' the "grateful" back into "The Grateful Dead"!!

Anybody really complaining about too much Afghan Primo?!? Good Lord, what a piece of work!

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On the lighter side...

We only have Netflix, and the three channels we can get from our antennae (not many good signals in the Berkshires). My five-year old just finished watching "Land of the Lost" on Me TV. She loves it!

Given the demographic of this site, I figured ya'll would appreciate that. (That show actually holds up better than I would have thought - dimensional travel and great banjo music, sweet).

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Hey all -

Pelke and Bolo, nice posts.

Star Dark - as usual, I totally respect your opinion. What I do wish you could see is that when you go beyond an opinion of the music, or the releases, to insulting people here, you are bound to cause reactions - which unfortunately also included insults aimed at you (which I don't agree with either - you're not a whiny bitch :-).

In your first post about this, you compared those of us who are excited about this release to overeager, rather silly, puppies (I don't know how else to interpret the "tails wagging" comment). So, after my gushing excitement about this release - a show I dearly love - I findmyself compared to a stupid dog willing to lap up whatever is dished out. Rather than merely posting your opinion about this release, you expressed an opinion about those of us who are happy about it. I gotta be honest, I felt personally crapped on by that comment (sad face).

In short, please keep expressing those opinions - smashing your CD's, whatever - it's all good, even entertaining as someone said. Just please don't make me feel like a moron for being happy about a release.

Thanks.

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The road to Wichita

In Bolo's original post he included lyrics from He's Gone, Bird Song and Box Of Rain. Though at the time it was suggested "It's all a dream" could refer to Stella Blue. He also mentioned how his Van "Brokedown" and he "might as well". So that's 6 potential songs. Only Might As Well was not a clue- it was included incidentally. The list really narrowed only after Bolo said 28% of the songs have something in common- and the conclusion reached it must be a 25 song show. So He's Gone, Box, Brokedown, Bird Song, 25 songs, and 7 of these songs have something in common. This led to a number of guesses, including Wichita- and that guess turned out to be right.

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Pelke

Nice post!

I remember those days too. Taping the Dead hour on the radio, my finger hovering nervously over the stop button trying to figure out the perfect spot to flip the cassette tape, lol.

I think I was even a little more fortunate than some, in that I had a Deadhead cousin who was a wheeler and dealer and was involved in the whole DAT trading scene, and would regularly supply me with crisp soundboards. We would partake, sit back and have our minds blown by some newly acquired amazing '73 show playing on his high-end system. I would invariably say something like "Whoa...holy shit, did you hear that?" and he would start giggling like a mischievous little kid. Ah, those were the days.

Even so, to think that now we have these pristine recordings delivered to our doorsteps, is pretty incredible. As Bolo said, an embarrassment of riches.

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Special Delivery

It seems a little strange DP11 was revealed in an email regarding address confirmation. Fortunately, a memo was intercepted between the email tomato and the website tomato- All it said was "Ketchup."

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I Rememer, Too....

I remember the 80's, too. My only source of pre-80's Dead was rushing home from work once per week to load the cassette deck so I could record another episode of the Grateful Dead Hour. We were lucky to get 4-5 songs strung together from a show, and never had the luxury of hearing a whole show.

Few of my friends were into the Dead and those that were did not collect tapes, so if I wanted to hear a show besides attending one, the Grateful Dead Hour was about it. We had no internet. We even had to call a stinking answering machine in NJ to find out when the next tour was starting (anybody else remember calling back 2-3 times to record all the Soup Nazi like instructions for filling out your blank 3x5" card, under threat of having your whole order rejected if you screwed up just one detail?!).

Fast forward to today. Four times a year, a dedicated archivist picks one of his favorite shows. Then, he remasters the music from the original sound board tapes (as opposed to some crappy audience recording, replete with distortion, numerous cuts, and idle audience chatter), generates informative liner notes, and has an artist pull together some kick-butt artwork for the CD cover. After that, he mails same said full length, remastered show to my door for my listening pleasure.

I think most can agree that Dave is a very knowledgeable, hardworking, and enthusiastic proponent of the Dead's music. I would almost consider him a professor of the Dead. I am personally glad to sit back and see what the good professor has to offer. Perhaps if I listen closely, I might just learn something new beyond the scope of my own preferences or personal biases.

I, for one, would like to thank Dave for the great job he does in bringing the music to us and opening my eyes to possibilities I may never have considered.

Pelke

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Request for Bolo

Hi Bolo -- now that the cat is out of the bag, could you give us a run-through explaining your clues so we can see how they tied to the show? I think it would be fun to go back through and see how everything tied together.

Thanks in advance!

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Very Pleased

I'm a head from the 80's, but love all of Dave's picks, so far. Keep them coming Dave and thanks for your hard work!

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The way I look at it is....

...the phases of my life come and go like the tides. I had my comic book phase, I had my video game phase, I had my fishing phase, I had my RC car phase, etc....but, nowadays if you presented all of those options, and threw the Dead in the mix and said, "What do you want to do?", playing a Dead show would never respond with a thumbs down. I may not be in the mood for a 1990 show or a 1968 or a 1977 show right now, but eventually, I would down the road. The comfort of having a physical disc or lp I can pop in at a moment's notice to sate the hunger is comforting to me. The road is long and winding (cue The Beatles), and returns full circle. 1986-1991 were formidable years in my life. Yes, I was careless. Blew a lot of money on tix, gas, plane fare, hotel rooms, grilled cheese sandwiches, drugs, beer, etc. But I regret none of it. I love this band, and all it's faces. Whether it be a Cosmic Charlie-> Born Cross-Eyed or a Corrina->Days Between, I know that, eventually I will want to experience that sequence again. It's only a matter of time....

Speaking of time, will someone invent that time machine already!

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I remember....

I remember those same days vividly. The ensuing embarrassment of riches of releases is all the more reason why there should be enough to go around for all eras. Enjoy the rest of your night also!