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Spring 1990 (The Other One) Box - SOLD OUT

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What's Inside:
144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
8 complete shows on 23 discs
      3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

Listening Party: 3/29/90, Nassau Coliseum With Branford Marsalis, Set 2

Enjoy the 2nd set of 3/29/90!

Listening Party, Part 2

Enjoy a track from each show!

Listening Party, Part 1

Enjoy a track from each show!

Seaside Chat: David Lemieux On The Branford Show

Unveiling Spring 1990 (TOO)

Talkin' Spring 1990 Too With Bob Weir, Jeffrey Norman And Branford Marsalis

David Lemieux on What’s Inside Spring 1990 (The Other One)

Product Details

Show #1
Capital Center, Landover, MD (3/14/90)

Disc 1
4. MAMA TRIED> [2:31]
5. BIG RIVER [5:21]
6. LOOSE LUCY [6:56]
8. ROW JIMMY [10:17]
9. LET IT GROW [11:54]

Disc 2
1. CRAZY FINGERS> [8:12]
3. UNCLE JOHN'S BAND> [8:05]
4. JAM> [7:12]
5. DRUMS> [7:38]
6. SPACE> [6:34]
7. DEAR MR. FANTASY> [5:53]
8. I NEED A MIRACLE> [4:07]
9. BLACK PETER> [7:53]

Show #2
Civic Center, Hartford, CT (3/18/90)

Disc 1
3. STAGGER LEE [5:29]
4. ME AND MY UNCLE> [3:08]
9. RAMBLE ON ROSE [8:02]

Disc 2
1. IKO IKO [8:08]
3. HE'S GONE> [8:56]
4. TRUCKIN'> [8:54]
5. SPOONFUL> [7:19]
6. DRUMS [6:52]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [11:23]
2. THE WHEEL> [5:49]
4. MORNING DEW [11:32]
5. U.S. BLUES [5:31]

Show #3
Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (3/21/90)

Disc 1
3. FAR FROM ME [5:05]
5. LOOSE LUCY [7:27]

Disc 2
1. HEY POCKY WAY [7:10]
2. CRAZY FINGERS> [07:38]
5. HE'S GONE> [12:42]
6. DRUMS> [9:37]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [7:39]
2. I NEED A MIRACLE> [4:16]
3. WHARF RAT> [8:41]

Show #4
Knickerbocker Arena, Albany NY (3/25/90)

Disc 1
2. TOUCH OF GREY [6:42]
5. JACK-A-ROE [4:36]
7. BIRD SONG [13:08]
8. LET IT GROW [11:36]

Disc 2
1. EYES OF THE WORLD> [13:26]
3. CRAZY FINGERS> [7:21]
4. TRUCKIN'> [7:43]
5. SPOONFUL> [5:37]
6. DRUMS [9:59]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [8:58]
4. BLACK PETER> [9:09]

Show #5 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (3/28/90)

Disc 1
3. EASY TO LOVE YOU [5:48]
4. HIGH TIME [6:14]
6. LOOSE LUCY [6:11]
7. CASSIDY> [6:06]
8. DEAL [8:18]

Disc 2
1. FOOLISH HEART> [10:21]
2. LOOKS LIKE RAIN> [8:09]
4. THE WEIGHT [5:46]
5. HEY POCKY WAY> [x:xx]
6. DRUMS [11:17]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [9:22]
2. THE OTHER ONE> [6:52]
3. WHARF RAT> [10:35]
4. GOOD LOVIN' [7:52]
5. REVOLUTION [4:55]

Show #6
Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (3/29/90)

Disc 1
1. JACK STRAW> [6:15]
2. BERTHA [6:59]
3. WE CAN RUN [6:04]
4. RAMBLE ON ROSE [8:08]
6. BIRD SONG> [13:05]

Disc 2
1. EYES OF THE WORLD> [16:33]
3. DARK STAR> [18:19]
4. DRUMS [10:22]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [7:53]
2. DARK STAR> [2:46]
3. THE WHEEL> [4:23]

Show #7
The Omni, Atlanta, GA (4/1/90)

Disc 1
1. TOUCH OF GREY [6:41]
2. WALKIN' BLUES [6:27]
4. CANDYMAN [7:20]
5. ME AND MY UNCLE> [3:05]
6. BIG RIVER [5:28]
7. ALTHEA [8:09]
9. TO LAY ME DOWN> [9:24]

Disc 2
2. I KNOW YOU RIDER [4:51]
3. SHIP OF FOOLS> [7:50]
5. DRUMS [7:30]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [11:48]
2. DEAR MR. FANTASY> [5:42]
3. HEY JUDE> [2:37]
4. TRUCKIN'> [7:00]
5. STELLA BLUE> [10:21]

Show #8
The Omni, Atlanta, GA (4/3/90)

Disc 1
2. HELL IN A BUCKET> [6:17]
3. SUGAREE [11:24]
4. WE CAN RUN [6:55]
6. ROW JIMMY [10:11]
7. PICASSO MOON [7:14]
8. TENNESSEE JED> [7:39]

Disc 2
3. CRAZY FINGERS> [8:06]
5. DRUMS [8:17]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [6:56]
5. NOT FADE AWAY [7:27]

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hbob1995's picture
Joined: Jun 26 2007
@ kaustin7

Great article! Thanks for the link. I had read some of the Eaton story but this is much more inclusive. I hope these tapes find their way back to The Vault and that Betty gets some compensation.
Rock on

gfink's picture
Joined: Nov 1 2010

Thanks for that heads-up. I have DP9 but I've generally avoided shows after Brent. A complete informal video of this show can be found online. I agree they do a bang-up job on To Lay Me Down, of course it was the first time playing it since Brent's passing so I think it had more resonance than usual.

Joined: Nov 13 2010
2015 "Project" and the Betty Boards

Might the 2015 project be the negotiation and return of the long lost Betty Boards that Rob Eaton has been working on?
An article ran earlier this year about the state of those tapes, who has them and who has been working on them. If you have not read the article it is well worth the read:

The return of these tapes could lead to the release of the Cornell show, much of the rest of Spring 77 and trove of other tapes.

Food for thought.

Joined: Nov 7 2013
Re Keys to The Vault.

Considering everyone that would have to sign off or on to let this happen, I don believe it will. Although having the keys would be nice.

Joined: Jan 24 2011
I Agree

It's easy to see why they wanted to release these. Very passionate performances. And, most importantly, they're fun to listen to. I never downloaded full copies of these shows, so all I have is the RT (and bonus disc) to go by.

Joined: Jun 18 2009

Not sure how anyone can listen to that Truckin>China>Rider and wonder why it was released. And then the Star sandwich and post-space. Even Vince is a bit muted in those shows, unlike the cacophonous hurricane he became in 1991.

I don't think the chopping up of that show, and the 19th, did either any justice. The first set of the 19th is tremendous, especially the H>S>F that closes it.

Joined: Jan 24 2011
Keys to the Vault

I think Dogstar is on to something by predicting the opening of the vault next year. DL2 has referred to "the project" that lands in 2015, in a way that sounds way bigger than tinkering on the margins with the next box set or DaP.

"Things are in flux for at least the next 3 or 4 months in terms of specifics of the project. If it falls the way we’re expecting it to, it’s going to be extremely cool. So standby."

I think they'll continue to release Normanized box sets of outstanding tours and/or runs, and Dave's Picks that are new to our ears in 2015, but I believe it's appropriate to speculate about the Holy Grail - access to everything that's in the vault, warts and all. I believe the hurdles to doing so earlier have been technological but also answering the question of how to monetize something like that. Not to mention that it would be a crapload of work... I think the time has come and really... no better time than the 50th anniversary.

After disallowing downloads of soundboard recordings from, it seemed clear to me that TPTB wanted to keep the genie in the bottle to preserve consumer demand for all their shows, for WHEN they decided to open up the entire vault. allows streaming of all the great soundboards, but let's face it... we all prefer to have the actual recordings in our possession.

So, how would that shake out? If I were DL2, I'd flag all the recordings in the vault that would never make it as DaP, box or other vault release. Whether it's due to recording medium (how do you mix a quality product from a Maxell XLII source tape?) or low quality show, I'm sure Dave has a good idea of what will never pass the muster. Then, hire low level audio technicians to do warts and all transfers to a digital medium and sell the puppies on a service like on steroids. They could proceed through the vault, tour to tour, and roll them out as they complete the process. I'd say this ought to be a download only venture. Most of us here seem capable of working with digital files. Perhaps people can pay a premium to have CDs burned for them, should they need such a service. Pricing could be similar to, where you can download mp3s of an entire show for $10, flacs for $13 and $23 for CDs. Equally importantly, people could download individual songs for $1. Crowd source the cover art, along with reviews, ratings, etc, so people can navigate the vast ocean with guidance from fellow heads. It could be a pretty low-impact, high profit venture for the Dead.

The powers that be, not to mention their fans, are aging rapidly and the opportunity to simply open the vault becomes less technically daunting with each passing day. Certainly, it would be an overwhelming project for TPTB to turn something like this into reality, but all the pieces are feasible. This is a digital world, and we increasingly prefer digital files as the way to deliver our music. We'll all cherish the vinyl or CDs of our desert island shows, but wouldn't we all be fine with mp3s or flacs from that 83 show your friend told you to check out?

DL2's doing his thang in 15 minutes. Can't wait to hear what's next!

Joined: Jan 24 2011

@senorsenor - I know the sound quality doesn't come close, but did you listen to the to lay me down on 9/18 RT right after the one on 4/1 from the box?? Yes, different strokes is definitely true, and subjectively one can certainly prefer a more subdued and cooler rendition, but objectively speaking, toward the end of the 9/18 version, the drummers are locked and keep increasing the intensity of their playing as, most importantly, Jerry keeps increasing the intensity and emotional range of his vocals with passionate ad-libs and even through the so-so sound you can hear the audience erupting repeatedly as they are being taken to that special place and in return helping the band go further. As beautiful as the 4/1 version is, nothing like that is happening - they are content to let its beauty speak for itself; but, the 9/18 one reaches farther by both band and audience resulting in an x-factor destination reached. Maybe it's just me?

Joined: Nov 1 2012
The big 50!

I love the 89 Alpine vid/Blu-ray idea. Some other 50th date's 2/74 Winterland, 6/9-10/73, Some 1975 or a big fall 73 box!!! Who Knows!! This is exciting

Joined: Oct 29 2012

I'll preface my comment with: I'm not normally an 80's/90's guy.

But I really dig this release! Great stuff. After finishing these shows I started in on the 9/16/90 Dick's Pick and the RT from 9/18-20/90. Not even close to as good. Quite frankly I'm not sure how/why those got released. Different strokes I guess...

Great box!

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Joined: Oct 3 2009
50th promises

- There will be a big box set. I'm not saying what it will be, but some of you people will LOVE it! It will also be expensive -- some of you people are going to be upset!!!

- The vault will NOT be "opened up" for anyone to buy whatever download they wish. But keep dreaming, you dreamers.

- Four more outstanding Dave's Picks, of course -- but, these WILL include a mid-80's show that will be widely reviled as being "not even close" to the best shows from the era.

- An '88-91 era video release.

Joined: Jan 24 2011
To Lay Me Down

I love the new '90 box - shows are hot and the sound quality is the best I've ever heard for any live release of anything. That said, I've always said that I prefer a mediocre recording of great performance over a great recording of even a very good performance. I previously stated that I thought I had found a new favorite version of To Lay Me Down (4/1/90), at least for this era. It appears that sound quality CAN bias one's perspective. While checking out a couple of other versions from around the same time I came across the version on RT vol 2 #1 from 9/18/90. No Brent, unfortunately, but it compensates with Hornsby. But, check out the performance overall. I submit that 4/1 is a VERY good performance - great harmonies, beautiful playing, amidst a hot show. The 9/18 performance has sound that can't compare, and the harmonies are not as good. But, check out the passion of the performance. This is a GREAT performance, not a very good one. Even though the shows on the spring 90 boxes are wonderful, it's good to remember that even around the same time, there are moments that transcend even what they did on that tour. If I could only keep one of those tracks, it'd be 9/18. Of course, I don't have to do that!

Joined: Jul 1 2009
That Crazy Old Phil...

Check out Phil on New Minglewood Blues from 3/21.

This version alone just proves how hot they were in '90, with a standard first set tune transformed into a monster!

I really need to get back and listen to this whole tour show by show from both boxes.

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Joined: Aug 27 2009
Expanding previous releases for the 50th/Downloads?

I would definately buy complete-show boxes of the DiP4 (2/13&14/70) and Ladies And Gentlemen... (4/25-29/71) shows and even Dozin At The Knick (3/24-26/90)! I also would jump at an UNEDITED 5/15/70 box and a complete 8/6/71 2 disc release and a complete Egypt and a complete From Egypt, and, and, and....

Anyway, I don't like things left incomplete I guess (and these are such great things!).

More all-new releases is fine too!

I do think "Cool" 50 is going to focus on downloads and trying out "cool" new ways to aggregate content without the constraints of physical media limitations and packaging requirements. In other words, freed of the standards of costs and pricing attendant to CD-based releases, GDM can try releases of all kinds of "cool" collections, from 45 minute studio session out-takes to a 1000+ minute "Complete Wonderland 10/74" set, at all kinds of "cool" prices with "cool" Digital-media "booklets" that incorporate lots of "cool" interactive and animated features ("cool!"). I have heard that it will all be very "cool".

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Joined: Oct 13 2008
Video for the 50th?

There is only one tour to exist on both video and high quality 24-track masters.

"The Fare The Well To Tiger" Summer '89 Video Blu-ray Box with Hi-rez stereo and DTS Surround Sound.

I swear I can her Jer say 'I' or 'It' can't get any better right before FOTD Alpine Valley.

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Joined: Nov 10 2007
The 50th

That's true regarding the mining of the 4/71 Fillmore shows for Ladies and Gentleman... I guess they could always throw in the NRPS sets?

I'm still hoping for the 3 night Alpine '89 run to be released as a Blu-Ray/CD combo.

I know I will enjoy anything and everything that is thrown at us.

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Joined: Jun 27 2011
Spring 90 TOO & 50th

Spring 70 & 71 Fillmore East would be interesting, but they have both already been mined before and only 71 was recorded multi-track. I wonder how much usable material is left from those runs.

Also.. Besides a select few, most of us don't know what remains in the Owsley Archive. Perhaps there is some GD left in there somewhere. Someone else mentioned the Capitol Theatre shows, I believe they were recorded in multi-track (hence three from the vault).

I wonder if there are any more of the 68 multi-tracks still around from the Anthem recordings. Theres lots of video, probably some of the spring 1990 tour.

Finally.. Love the Spring 90 box. This, with the Fillmore 69, Winterland 73 & 77 and E 72 get my nod as some of the highest quality live music ever released by the band. This one sounds like a studio recording of live music. Crystal clear, great separation. Really yummy stuff. I'm having a hard time to believe it has not sold out. ..almost like time slowed down as soon as they made the 1,500 left announcement.

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Joined: Nov 10 2007
Spring '71 Fillmore East Run

is what my money is on for the big five-O.

Joined: Jan 11 2014

"More" seems like a good possibility. Hopefully "cooler" means something will be released that is more exciting than E'72 or Spring 1990 box sets. I hope it means discovering something that was thought lost or unrecorded involving 1970. That said, more seems like a far more likely scenario. I would guess there will be multiple types of products including downloads, a smaller box set or two, some kind of video release, vinyl release, and who knows what else. I guess the difference between 2015 and preceding years would be probably a greater amount of things to choose from.

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Joined: Aug 7 2008

We really need a 50th speculation thread,but anyway, my guess. More spectacular, or more cool would seem difficult (considering FW69, E'72, 1990, Veneta, etc.), as we seem to agree. So why not just 'more'?

- more boxes (like Winterland 73/77, so not too expensive per box)
- (in view of Rhino's interest in producing just not enough, a bit like Ferrari) a bigger, more expensive subscription (monthly installments, two shows /quarter or whatever)
- an ever expanding streaming service from (remastered/mixed) vault
- ...

Joined: Jun 6 2007

I have a gut feeling the vault, to a certain extent, will open up digitally. This means single show downloads of mp3, flac, or HD options. That would be the ultimate now would it not. How they would approach this as far as the Norman touch I have no clue. They could set aside the really great shows for that I suppose and re-release everything else that has allready been done

Joined: Dec 17 2011
Price III

I too hope that whatever is released in the form of a mega box set is offered as single show releases. The wife doesn't really care how I much I pay. Her attitude is as long as the bills are paid and we're not going hungry I could spend 10,000 dollars on My problem is every year I put aside so much money for GD or GD related goods, last year I put aside 500 dollars & it was gone by the time the May 1977 box set was announced in May. Because I didn't get the DP subscription, I had to use E-bay for each one plus RSD in April, the GarciaLive releases and a few t-shirts by the time May came around I'd spent $536.54 so by the end of the year I had spent $912.19. The REAL money was spent when the official release of SSDD came around I think I spent almost 400 bucks just in the SSDD Store. Now next year I already put aside $1,200 with the anticipation that whatever is going to be offered for 2015 will be expensive. The wife & I already discussed DP 2015 so that will be my Christmas present, for some reason I feel that Dave's Picks will sell out before January 2015 so when the GD Almanac comes out in early November we will be ordering a subscription that instant. Looking forward to 50 Years of the good ole Grateful Dead just hoping that shows will be available as single releases just like Europe '72 was. I do admit that being a Deadhead can get expensive however it's not just the music it's a way of life. Now just waiting for the Live Chat with DL on Monday. HAPPY SATURDAY, DEADLAND!!!!!!!

Joined: Sep 15 2009
Price II

I'm with you Dark Star. I would love to have everything released but price matters. I bought the Europe 72 box and my wife was way cool. I bought the May 77 box and my wife had some concerns. When the next big thing was Spring 90 I was kind of relieved because I had Dozin, Terrapin, and Without a Net, and that was plenty of 90's Dead. When Spring 90 TOO came out I got the single show release. I am excited and worried at the same time that 2015 will have some "really cool" stuff but with major price tags. I hope there are single show or music only options as it's hard to satisfactorily answer the inevitable "How much Dead do you need?" question which I fear may be coming.

Joined: Jan 11 2014
Cool Box Sets

As far as I'm concerned, to surpass anything previously released it would have to be either a box set of the September 1970 Fillmore East run or the November 1970 Capitol Theater run. That said, there are many box sets that could be released that would make me happy: something from 1969, February 1970, Fall 1973, June 1974, May 1977 part 2, Greek Theater 1981, and on and on.'s picture
Joined: Nov 3 2007

I hope that it's under $300.00 or I'm out. I can't afford another $450.00 box or one that's even higher in price. The wife is usually pretty cool but the Europe '72 box caused a few problems.

Joined: Feb 2 2010
The Countdown

In my humble opinion, the question of which shows might be released in the 50th anniversary year is shooting too low, especially given that Dave keeps talking up how cool things are about to get. They've always released shows in a series format, as well as in boxed formats, so just releasing some long-treasured shows isn't really "cool" (it is, but bear with me a moment). I think that they're going to do (to paraphrase Monty Python) something completely different.

It might be a flood of videos (why haven't we seen an official 3/28/81 yet?), it might be a downloadable cleaned-up version of the best set from each tour, it might be 3-D holograms of the band playing an amalgam of every Dead tune simultaneously, but there's something coming besides just a Fall '73 box or 9/18/87, or whatever individual show each person is wishing for.

Or maybe all that money from the Terrapin Limited idea has been secretly used to master every show ever played, and now you can finally purchase a lifetime vault membership for $1000, and stream or download anything they ever played (in perfect sound) . . .

Joined: Jun 4 2007
the count down is on... something special must be at the end of it : )

Fall '73 almost seems too predictable. And so much is already released (28 discs' worth, 7 complete shows and the majority of 4 others). Though there's still plenty left for a Winterland '77- or Spring '90-sized box. I'd pass, but a massive circle of people would be dancing a ring around the sun...!

I just had a big, big thought, but I'll keep it too myself -- would hate to jinx it if it could possibly happen, and if it couldn't, wouldn't wanna cast any disappointments on the parade that's actually GOING to happen....

As of this year's subscription and TOO box, I'm officially satisfied with my "vault" (though still hoping for an 84-87 for Dave's 12), so whatever happens next is just jimmies on the sundae for me....

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Joined: Jan 19 2011
It almost HAS to be "hyperbole"

It almost has to be hyperbole (Dave). "Cooler" than FW 69 and E 72. Man, I don't know...

Joined: Aug 29 2013
"Whether they’re the Fillmore

"Whether they’re the Fillmore West box in 2004, whether it’s Europe ’72…we’ve done a lot of cool things. What we have planned for 2015 I think is the coolest thing we’ve done yet and that’s not hyperbole and that’s not the blowing of smoke. That is true."

Cooler than Europe '72 or the Fillmore West 1969? The only thing that I can think of is Fall '73.

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Joined: Jun 29 2007
The music on Spring TOO is so good.....

....that I just realized there is a book in the set......Bonus!!

Joined: Apr 24 2008
Update re HD FLAC downloads subsequent to original post

Yes, thank you. That was added after my original post and email to requesting clarification on the hi-res downloads.

Joined: Jun 4 2007
3/25 Eyes of the World

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like this marks the return of the slower tempo Eyes of the World. I wonder what the genesis of the change was. Was it something that had been discussed for years? They open the second set with it, a rare thing in and of itself. The 3/19 show has the up-tempo Eyes of the World. Does anyone know exactly when the faster tempo Eyes of the World was introduced? Perhaps it was a gradual thing, but it sounds to me they started increasing the beat on the first leg of the Spring '78 tour and things just started getting faster from there. (4-12-78 Duke to be precise.)

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Joined: Oct 2 2014
guess its my turn.....

I was a guilty fence sitter for quite a while but now am now a fully satisfied owner. Sound wise, is as everyone has praised, with the sort of distinctive clarity usually only found in studio recordings. My preference for listening actually tends to be top-spun audience pulls (which was partly to blame for the hesitation) but having the opportunity hear perfectly balanced levels, being able to cue into the goings on of any one of our six psychedelic minstrels... well, just too much to pass up.

And what a great tour for this. While maybe not quite hitting those X factor peaks that can push the sweat out from the soles of your feet, I’m not sure there are other tours where the band moves as fluidly as a collective unit as they do here. The music simply rides on an effortless wabi-sabi of intuitive inspiration and leaves the show boating to the Knicks. Probably the most democratic mode the band ever found themselves in.

The other reason for my purchase was the artwork. As much as I will always connect to the standard iconography (yes, put a bolt on it, indeed!), how lucky we are to have an entirely fresh visual expression for the GD ethos. And to this head, Dessner’s work is as much of a natural fit as say, Mouse’s efforts for the original Europe ‘72 release. It works.... perfectibly! Besides that, with the release limited to 9,0000, who knows? The box set might just appreciate value for this aspect alone. Impossible to predict though as finicky as the art world is. Although, when I spread all the discs out upon my coffee table, or catch a glimpse of the carousel skeleton riding dandy in the bookshelf, proudly between Mark Twain’s Library of Humor and Cormac McCarthy‘s The Crossing, I understand without a doubt the contribution that has been made to my home (and I live in a bitsy house, mind you).

So maybe that will persuade others to close this one out. And don’t worry, I don’t work for Rhino. Am only one of the many many out there that still finds himself amazed that he can listen to this great great band with the same enthusiasm as he always has year after year, decade after decade.

Joined: Sep 25 2013

Listen to Brent's work on Stella Blue on 4/1 at the Omni. Really beautiful. There are so many examples in Spring 90 of guys just being totally in the moment and playing creative runs and fills. These are truly great shows.

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Joined: Jun 26 2007

Musically speaking, I think Brent brought a lot to the table. He added a new dimension and some innovative sounds. It is quite obvious that Jerry really enjoyed playing with him. As for his vocals, I love him as a background singer and not so much as the lead singer. I do really like Just A Little Light and Blow Away from the first Spring '90 box are great too.
Rock on

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Joined: Nov 1 2010
For all not floored by the "sounds" of 1990 GD....

I totally hear you guys on not liking Brent's sounds or Jerry's midi sounds in this era of the Dead. How can it compare to earlier versions? Etc.

I had that exact view for no less than 20 years. My two times seeing them with Jerry was 7-2-89 and 9-24-91, or basically a year or so on either side of Spring 90. The 89 show was awesome, the 91 show not bad, but with both I was really wishing that I was seeing the version from 20 years back.

I came close to SELLING Without a Net at one point! Always liked Dozin, but could not understand the Terrapin Ltd, the Warlocks set, Nightfall of Diamonds.

Now, I have come around. I think it was hearing a friend's copy of the first Spring 90 set that did it. This stuff is really superb, just different. I really think this was a high point of their career. Yes I love 68-74, and 77 and other choice moments in their timeline. No question. But as you keep listening to this stuff over the years, you start to appreciate more that quirky stuff that sometimes came to the table during this era. It brings a little variety. And the band is playing rock-solid in the meantime. I appreciate Brent more than ever - he was the right guy for them at this particular point in time. Anyway.... just saying give it time, you'll probably be just as happy to hear this stuff as any other era.

Edited to add: Brent's songs, OK, still not usually the highlight but for the most part I listen to them now - never did before -and some are quite good - Blow Away, JALL...

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Joined: Aug 6 2013

It says right here on this page in the Digital Download section:

"HD FLAC Available in 192kHz/24bit"

Joined: Jun 5 2007

Wow.. thanks...
I'm still looking for that RT bonus disc for you... it's a tough one to find.. I haven't come across it yet. But eventually I will.

Thanks again for the shout outs. I appreciate that!!

BTW.. since this is the Spring TOO forum..
let me say, I'm on my 3rd listen through the box set.
I haven't even cracked open the book to read it yet. The music is amazing.
I go concert to concert... then start over.


Joined: Oct 1 2014
I agree about brianhahne!

I got a couple of items I wanted from him on ebay as well for a very fair price. Still looking for my white whale, the Road Trips 2011 bonus disc, but in the meantime his prices on other cds are very, very good.

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Joined: Apr 30 2014
Thanks to Brianhahne I got a killer deal

I have read SO many people saying how Brian can find CDs and offer them at the lowest price. Well count me to that list of happy customers.
I saw a great deal on DP 14 at ebay and jumped on it as quick as i could. Turns out it was an offering from Brianhahne!
A friend of mine also told me he was very honest and found stuff that was really tough to find. How he does it? No idea, but im happy he did on this buy.
Just wanted to throw that out there as you can feel weird about the web and all. Honestly thou, DeadHeads are the best!
Rock on Good People......

Joined: Jun 5 2007

Check PM. Maybe I can help...

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Joined: Aug 8 2013
Elbow49 and Cousin of The..

I'm with you as well. Amazing sound quality. But I have not had my jaw hit the floor with the playing. I listened to the first 3 shows and took a break. Overall it is a great release and love all eras.

Joined: Oct 1 2014
Insuring what I buy is 24/192 HD-MSQ

"Has remastering specifications re the newly available HD FLAC files for Spring 1990/ Spring 1990 TOO been published?

The "more info" link is simply an FAQ; absent anything relevant to the file mastering. Note that the "Wake Up to Find Out (3/29/90)" digital files via are also missing the bit-depth/sample rate specs. The latter is available in both 24/96 and 24/192 downloads at HD Tracks. Will purchases made through provide the same options? As there is only one price for the download via, it's doubtful. Clicking through the ordering process does not reveal any more information and would be quite a financial gamble if you're hoping for a specific resolution.

Can any one shed light on this?"

I already bought 3/29 and it was WELL worth it. Will offer this bundled in 24/192? I REALLY want it. I emailed and have yet to hear a reply and my credit card wants to be used ;-)



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Joined: Oct 26 2012
Thank you Cousins Of The...

Thank you for finally saying something less then praise about Spring 1990 Too. I have been listening to this box and thinking to myself, "no goosebumps, no x-factor". Yeah it sounds great but it does not get the endorphins flowing. It is a bunch of Dead songs played well that sound great. That's not what I am used to listening to.

I mean no disrespect to the people who put a lot of hard work and time into this production I am passionate about this band and it helps to say something. Thanks for reading.

Joined: Jul 12 2014
Spring 1990 Box Vol 1

Almost finished listening to Spring 1990 TOO and wow no regrets in buying this its incredible soundwise,contentwise its all very good indeed. Although i gather the Vol 1 set is not as good soundwise as this one i still regret not getting it and so searched ebay. Yikes have you seen the crazy prices $800, $1000 for Vol 1 and even high prices for the TOO box despite the fact its not even sold out. So my question to the community is does anyone know of a good location to buy the limted dead disks such as Vol 1 Spring and Daves Picks etc. Seems like so many people are buying these just to resell on ebay at enourmous profit at the expense of those of us just into the music. Not really a download guy and not in the more money than sense camp either!! Yeah i know not going to happen but on the basis of i need a miracle...

Joined: Aug 29 2013
you forgot the big one:

Fall '73 Tour. One of Dave's personal favorite tours and the only one that he listed as meriting full release that has not yet seen the light of day.

Joined: Sep 25 2013
Slightly Off Topic (sorry)

Just read the Relix interview with David about Spring '90 TOO (see, it is a little bit on topic).

In it, he says:

"What we have planned for 2015 I think is the coolest thing we’ve done yet and that’s not hyperbole and that’s not the blowing of smoke. That is true. Well, we’ve known the 50th was coming along for the last 49 years. More specifically, the last three years we’ve really known that we want to do some special things and we’ve been working towards them to make sure that they could happen and that’s where we are now is making them happen so that when 2015 rolls around, which means for the 12 months of 2015 we’re going to have a lot of very cool things happening. In terms of big things we certainly have big things planned that I think are certainly some of the cooler things we’ve ever done and, again, we’ve done some cool things."

So what things do you think they've got in mind? I'm not saying these are the things, but these are few possibilities I'd be interested in:

* Box set built around 1980 acoustic shows, including 2 NOLA Sanger Theater shows (I'm aware that some or all of the Radio City shows have been recorded over)

* Box set built around remaining unreleased Spring '77 shows, including Barton Hall performance (I know, it's not in the value and who cares, everybody has it already, and of course it is overrated, but a cleaned up, remastered Betty Board is always a possibility if the show makes its way back to the Vault)

* Box set built around unreleased 65-67 shows

* Box set built around Alpine '89, including audio and video

* Box set built around Euro '90 (seems unlikely given the attention to '90 this year, but I'd be interested)

* Box set built around returned tapes from MG (seems more likely that these will happen through Dave's Picks)

* Watkins Glen '73 Release

* A better Dylan/Dead Release

* Unreleased Pigpen Solo Album

* Unreleased Brent Solo Album

* Rerelease of Donna & Keith (kidding, right?)

* '93 MSG or Boston Garden Box Set

* Monthly Download Series throughout 2015 (like 30 days of dead but for money)?

* Some kind of subscription service through a smartphone app?

Those are just off-the-cuff.

Joined: Sep 10 2009
My review - differing opinion

Finally listened to all 8 shows. First off, like everyone else said, the sound is excellent, probably the best out of all the
the 80s and 90s releases.
Howewer, I have mixed feelings about the music; there is a lot great stuff in there, but I just can't seem to make it past Jerry's MIDI and Brent's over-processed
keyboard sound. Overall, I don't understand the of the best tours ever? Maybe the best 90s tour, but in my opinion I don't see how one could rate this tour above
70s and 80s tours(December 1971, summer/fall 81, fall 79, etc.)
Don't get me wrong, I have no regrets purchasing this set, I just don't think it's as good as what the majority of posters here have written.

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Joined: Jun 26 2007
Sell outs

Everyone is raving about this box but it still has not sold out. I think this is due to the fact that downloads are available. I myself always want the physical product but I realize that many are just as happy with the music only. I think TPTB will realize that and I think the number of units offered on future box sets will decrease. Especially when the box carries such a hefty price tag. Per disc, the price for TOO is very good, but times 23 discs and it does move the price tag higher then some wish to pay.
Rock on

Joined: Feb 16 2011
shipping cost and harassed by UPS

I am as happy as anyone else about the sound of this release! ( ... in my ears only Go to Nassau and Terrapin Limited are sonically comparable.)

However, as an international customer I am less excited about the shipping costs. Earlier big box sets (E72 box, Spring 90 box, May 77) have been shipped to European customers through an arrangement without customs tariff (these boxes where shipped from inside the EU, from Rotterdam I think). This time around I ended up paying 152 dollar for shipping and custom.

I may have been ok with that, wasn´t it for the last surprise ...

Today, two weeks after the delivery of my box, UPS try to charge me an ADDITIONAL 110 bucks for custom and shipping that I have already payed them weeks ago. UPS got a bad reputation over here, so I am not really surprised that they are trying these kind of things ... but still I would prefer them to keep to civil business standard.

So: For the next box release please return to the old shipping arrangement without customs tariff, and where you as a customer did not run the risk to become harassed by UPS

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