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Spring 1990 (The Other One) Box

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What's Inside:
144-page paperback book with essays by Nicholas G. Meriwether and Blair Jackson
A portfolio with three art prints by Jessica Dessner
Replica ticket stubs and backstage passes for all eight shows
8 complete shows on 23 discs
      3/14/90 Capital Centre, Landover, MD
      3/18/90 Civic Center, Hartford, CT
      3/21/90 Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario
      3/25/90 Knickerbocker Arena, Albany, NY
      3/28/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY
      3/29/90 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (featuring Branford Marsalis)
      4/1/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
      4/3/90 The Omni, Atlanta, GA
Recorded by long-time Grateful Dead audio engineer John Cutler
Mixed from the master 24-track analog tapes by Jeffrey Norman at Bob Weir's TRI Studios
Mastered to HDCD specs by David Glasser
Original Art by Jessica Dessner
Individually Numbered, Limited Edition of 9,000

Announcing Spring 1990 (The Other One)

"If every concert tells a tale, then every tour writes an epic. Spring 1990 felt that way: an epic with more than its share of genius and drama, brilliance and tension. And that is why the rest of the music of that tour deserves this release, why the rest of those stories need to be heard." - Nicholas G. Meriwether

Some consider Spring 1990 the last great Grateful Dead tour. That it may be. In spite of outside difficulties and downsides, nothing could deter the Grateful Dead from crafting lightness from darkness. They were overwhelmingly triumphant in doing what they came to do, what they did best — forging powerful explorations in music. Yes, it was the music that would propel their legacy further, young fans joining the ranks with veteran Dead Heads, Jerry wondering "where do they keep coming from?" — a sentiment that still rings true today, a sentiment that offers up another opportunity for an exceptional release from a tour that serves as transcendental chapter in the Grateful Dead masterpiece.

With Spring 1990 (The Other One), you'll have the chance to explore another eight complete shows from this chapter, the band elevating their game to deliver inspired performances of concert staples (“Tennessee Jed” and “Sugar Magnolia”), exceptional covers (Dylan’s “When I Paint My Masterpiece” and the band’s last performance of the Beatles’ “Revolution”) and rare gems (the first “Loose Lucy” in 16 years) as well as many songs from Built To Last, which had been released the previous fall and would become the Dead’s final studio album. Also among the eight is one of the most sought-after shows in the Dead canon: the March, 29, 1990 show at Nassau Coliseum, where Grammy®-winning saxophonist Branford Marsalis sat in with the group. The entire second set is one continuous highlight, especially the breathtaking version of “Dark Star.”

For those of you who are keeping track, this release also marks a significant milestone as now, across the two Spring 1990 boxed sets, Dozin At The Knick, and Terrapin Limited, the entire spring tour of 1990 has been officially released, making it only the second Grateful Dead tour, after Europe 1972, to have that honor.

Now shipping, you'll want to order your copy soon as these beautiful boxes are going, going, gone...

Listening Party: 3/29/90, Nassau Coliseum With Branford Marsalis, Set 2

Enjoy the 2nd set of 3/29/90!

Listening Party, Part 2

Enjoy a track from each show!

Listening Party, Part 1

Enjoy a track from each show!

Seaside Chat: David Lemieux On The Branford Show

Unveiling Spring 1990 (TOO)

Talkin' Spring 1990 Too With Bob Weir, Jeffrey Norman And Branford Marsalis

David Lemieux on What’s Inside Spring 1990 (The Other One)

Product Details

Show #1
Capital Center, Landover, MD (3/14/90)


Disc 1
1. COLD RAIN AND SNOW [6:56]
2. FEEL LIKE A STRANGER [7:44]
3. NEVER TRUST A WOMAN [6:27]
4. MAMA TRIED> [2:31]
5. BIG RIVER [5:21]
6. LOOSE LUCY [6:56]
7. STUCK INSIDE OF MOBILE WITH THE MEMPHIS BLUES AGAIN [8:50]
8. ROW JIMMY [10:17]
9. LET IT GROW [11:54]

Disc 2
1. CRAZY FINGERS> [8:12]
2. PLAYING IN THE BAND> [10:27]
3. UNCLE JOHN'S BAND> [8:05]
4. JAM> [7:12]
5. DRUMS> [7:38]
6. SPACE> [6:34]
7. DEAR MR. FANTASY> [5:53]
8. I NEED A MIRACLE> [4:07]
9. BLACK PETER> [7:53]
10. TURN ON YOUR LOVELIGHT [6:01]
11. BLACK MUDDY RIVER [6:00]

Show #2
Civic Center, Hartford, CT (3/18/90)


Disc 1
1. SHAKEDOWN STREET> [12:45]
2. LITTLE RED ROOSTER [9:28]
3. STAGGER LEE [5:29]
4. ME AND MY UNCLE> [3:08]
5. MEXICALI BLUES [5:22]
6. FRIEND OF THE DEVIL [8:44]
7. JUST A LITTLE LIGHT [5:55]
8. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [5:32]
9. RAMBLE ON ROSE [8:02]
10. THE MUSIC NEVER STOPPED [7:38]

Disc 2
1. IKO IKO [8:08]
2. LOOKS LIKE RAIN [8:27]
3. HE'S GONE> [8:56]
4. TRUCKIN'> [8:54]
5. SPOONFUL> [7:19]
6. DRUMS [6:52]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [11:23]
2. THE WHEEL> [5:49]
3. ALL ALONG THE WATCHTOWER> [6:06]
4. MORNING DEW [11:32]
5. U.S. BLUES [5:31]

Show #3
Copps Coliseum, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada (3/21/90)


Disc 1
1. MISSISSIPPI HALF-STEP UPTOWN TOODELOO [8:33]
2. NEW MINGLEWOOD BLUES [7:36]
3. FAR FROM ME [5:05]
4. QUEEN JANE APPROXIMATELY [6:29]
5. LOOSE LUCY [7:27]
6. VICTIM OR THE CRIME> [8:07]
7. STANDING ON THE MOON> [8:00]
8. PROMISED LAND [4:53]

Disc 2
1. HEY POCKY WAY [7:10]
2. CRAZY FINGERS> [07:38]
3. CUMBERLAND BLUES [5:30]
4. ESTIMATED PROPHET> [11:51]
5. HE'S GONE> [12:42]
6. DRUMS> [9:37]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [7:39]
2. I NEED A MIRACLE> [4:16]
3. WHARF RAT> [8:41]
4. THROWING STONES> [8:59]
5. TURN ON YOUR LOVELIGHT [6:51]
6. KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR [7:10]

Show #4
Knickerbocker Arena, Albany NY (3/25/90)


Disc 1
1. GREATEST STORY EVER TOLD> [4:06]
2. TOUCH OF GREY [6:42]
3. WANG DANG DOODLE [7:22]
4. NEVER TRUST A WOMAN [7:36]
5. JACK-A-ROE [4:36]
6. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [5:27]
7. BIRD SONG [13:08]
8. LET IT GROW [11:36]

Disc 2
1. EYES OF THE WORLD> [13:26]
2. SAMSON AND DELILAH [7:47]
3. CRAZY FINGERS> [7:21]
4. TRUCKIN'> [7:43]
5. SPOONFUL> [5:37]
6. DRUMS [9:59]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [8:58]
2. I WILL TAKE YOU HOME> [4:18]
3. GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELING BAD> [6:58]
4. BLACK PETER> [9:09]
5. AROUND AND AROUND [6:45]
6. THE MIGHTY QUINN (QUINN THE ESKIMO) [4:40]

Show #5 Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (3/28/90)

Disc 1
1. COLD RAIN AND SNOW> [6:29]
2. NEW MINGLEWOOD BLUES [7:27]
3. EASY TO LOVE YOU [5:48]
4. HIGH TIME [6:14]
5. QUEEN JANE APPROXIMATELY [6:32]
6. LOOSE LUCY [6:11]
7. CASSIDY> [6:06]
8. DEAL [8:18]

Disc 2
1. FOOLISH HEART> [10:21]
2. LOOKS LIKE RAIN> [8:09]
3. CUMBERLAND BLUES> [5:50]
4. THE WEIGHT [5:46]
5. HEY POCKY WAY> [x:xx]
6. DRUMS [11:17]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [9:22]
2. THE OTHER ONE> [6:52]
3. WHARF RAT> [10:35]
4. GOOD LOVIN' [7:52]
5. REVOLUTION [4:55]

Show #6
Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY (3/29/90)


Disc 1
1. JACK STRAW> [6:15]
2. BERTHA [6:59]
3. WE CAN RUN [6:04]
4. RAMBLE ON ROSE [8:08]
5. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [6:02]
6. BIRD SONG> [13:05]
7. PROMISED LAND [4:46]

Disc 2
1. EYES OF THE WORLD> [16:33]
2. ESTIMATED PROPHET> [14:47]
3. DARK STAR> [18:19]
4. DRUMS [10:22]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [7:53]
2. DARK STAR> [2:46]
3. THE WHEEL> [4:23]
4. THROWING STONES> [9:25]
5. TURN ON YOUR LOVELIGHT [7:41]
6. KNOCKIN' ON HEAVEN'S DOOR [8:24]

Show #7
The Omni, Atlanta, GA (4/1/90)


Disc 1
1. TOUCH OF GREY [6:41]
2. WALKIN' BLUES [6:27]
3. JUST A LITTLE LIGHT [6:12]
4. CANDYMAN [7:20]
5. ME AND MY UNCLE> [3:05]
6. BIG RIVER [5:28]
7. ALTHEA [8:09]
8. VICTIM OR THE CRIME> [9:55]
9. TO LAY ME DOWN> [9:24]
10. THE MUSIC NEVER STOPPED [7:55]

Disc 2
1. CHINA CAT SUNFLOWER> [5:33]
2. I KNOW YOU RIDER [4:51]
3. SHIP OF FOOLS> [7:50]
4. MAN SMART, WOMAN SMARTER> [7:54]
5. DRUMS [7:30]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [11:48]
2. DEAR MR. FANTASY> [5:42]
3. HEY JUDE> [2:37]
4. TRUCKIN'> [7:00]
5. STELLA BLUE> [10:21]
6. SUGAR MAGNOLIA [9:15]
7. IT'S ALL OVER NOW BABY BLUE [7:40]

Show #8
The Omni, Atlanta, GA (4/3/90)


Disc 1
1. SHAKEDOWN STREET [12:15]
2. HELL IN A BUCKET> [6:17]
3. SUGAREE [11:24]
4. WE CAN RUN [6:55]
5. WHEN I PAINT MY MASTERPIECE [5:17]
6. ROW JIMMY [10:11]
7. PICASSO MOON [7:14]
8. TENNESSEE JED> [7:39]
9. PROMISED LAND [4:42]

Disc 2
1. ESTIMATED PROPHET> [14:03]
2. SCARLET BEGONIAS> [6:57]
3. CRAZY FINGERS> [8:06]
4. PLAYING IN THE BAND> [11:40]
5. DRUMS [8:17]

Disc 3
1. SPACE> [6:56]
2. I WILL TAKE YOU HOME> [4:17]
3. GOIN' DOWN THE ROAD FEELING BAD> [6:14]
4. THROWING STONES> [8:42]
5. NOT FADE AWAY [7:27]
6. WE BID YOU GOODNIGHT [3:14]

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Pitch Correction

Just listened to one of the AUDs on archive.org. I'm no Randy Jackson, but Bob didn't sound particularly pitchy to me on Eyes. Maybe there is a vast conspiracy where Bob's vocals have been corrected on the AUDs as well?

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Pitch Correction

What is the OP's evidence that this was done? As I recall reading, the OP says something like (I'm paraphrasing): I heard an AUD of this show a long time ago and, if memory serves, Bob was out of tune. Ok, sure: Bob is occasionally off-key. I doubt anyone would deny that. Is there a link to the AUD in question on the archive? Has anyone compared that AUD to the new release? What about to the prior Without a Net release. I understand the OP says this is where all the pitch correcting started. Is there some published source where pitch correcting is acknowledged? This seems kind of like bullshit to me.

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sell out

I really can't believe this box set has not sold out yet I mean this is the best music that has ever been released if you have not purchased this box you must you will not be disappointed

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sell out

I really can't believe this box set has not sold out yet I mean this is the best music that has ever been released if you have not purchased this box you must you will not be disappointed

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sell out

Sorry for the double post

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Lots of Luck EdTheHead

To get all three bonus discs. I got one with Fall 77. I had a feeling more were floating around. I ordered Fall 79 next and no Bonus. I had Feb. 68 (no bonus) before they started to restock ( or discovered more in the warehouse).

I did notice at one time those 3 volumes went out of stock and then came back a week or so later. So they may have found more in the warehouse or printed more by mistake with bonus included. I'm not sure if they have more than one warehouse. It may be where you live also that will depend on getting a bonus in one of these. If there is more than one warehouse.

I live in Ohio and my packages all seem to originate in Hebron, KY when I order from dead.net. And with limited edition releases. My number is usually always in the middle of the run.

A few weeks back I ordered MSG 90 and the package got lost. Dead.net replaced the order, but I still wonder if that MSG 90 that was lost had bonus disc included. The one I got did not have

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Pitch Correction

Sorry for the drama, but I think this is important-

From what the person said in the wake up to find out thread - Bob's EOTW vocals during the chorus were originally out of tune, but in this release it has been corrected. So its the pitch of the vocal - but maybe auto tune is a better way to say it.

This box is awesome no doubt about it - but after what I heard about the Going Down the Road song incident in the '77 box, this seems believable (also heard some magic was done on the E72 box)…. Anyway I just hope that those who make these releases do not confuse trying to get something sonically right with changing the performance. I for one like a performance to be released with warts and all - performance wise. If there are wrong notes, bad vocals thats fine and if pieces of a performance missing I would prefer just supplemented with an AUD recording, etc...

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Re: pitch correction

Isn't pitch correction meant to fix problems caused by the recording process (speed of recording is off) rather than fix problems caused by the performances (forgetting words, guitar out of tune, missed note, etc.)?

I don't see why someone would object to a recording error being fixed.

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I don't know about pitch correction....

....but I do know awesome sound....Spring TOO is an example of the finest mixing and production of a live recording I have ever heard.....simply jaw dropping. Best $ ever spent.....I'm sure you all feel the same....if you want to turn someone onto the Dead, play this box of this tour...universal if you ask me.

p.s. I may be biased a bit...Play Dead!!

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Pitch Correction / notebooks

I saw on another thread that there may have been some pitch correction done on the 3/29 show. Does anyone have any info on this? I guess its on Bob's vocals during eyes?

I hope thats not true - if it is can the TPTB just leave us alone with all this commercial garbage- we want the whole shows, no alteration, no gimmicks, just good ol grateful dead- the way it happened. end rant.

On a lighter side- anyone else keep a notebook on the shows in their collection or the ones they have heard? I was thinking of starting one with this tour and the E72 and then going into the whole collection and wonder if anyone else does that now and if they have any cool systems for recording their thoughts. Reading about Dick L really inspired me to get my own notes going for constructive listening and being able to pin point what I want to hear in my collection at a certain time.

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Box set, bonus discs

I'm enjoying this box so very much..haven't had a lot of time to really get into it..but have had a fair share of listening moments. So nice to have a couple of days off from work finally to dive Into this big ole box! Thanks for making this happen!

On the posts about bonus discs coming with road trips..I ordered both winterland boxes over the past year and received the bonus disc with both boxes. Just a thought..wish my random road trips would have come with them also, oh well!

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Regarding those bonus discs....

I bought from dead net Road Trips Vol. 1 #1, Vol. 1 #2 and Vol. 2 #2, and all three had the bonus CDs!

I don't understand the bonus CD concept anyway. You make a limited number of CD sets with a bonus CD, those sell out, then you have the leftovers that don't sell as fast. Why not make 'em all that way, with the extras? They're already tooled up to crank out the CDs and print the covers. ???????????

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Joining Tracks

iTunes can do this, assuming you are ripping the tracks from a disc. It's pretty simple actually: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9FYN9giFHM

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Is there a website that has

Is there a website that has the proper timings for seamlessly joining GD tracks once you upload them to iTunes? A rather specific request, I know, but some epic sequences need to be joined (looking at you, Dick's Picks 4 and Dick's Picks 16).

That would be especially helpful on the TOO box between the end of disc 2 drums and the beginning of disc 3 space.

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Space on this tour....

....the cool thing about 1990 space was, they all lasted anywhere from 8-12 minutes, and if you listen closely, at about halfway through every one, they tease the song that will be coming out of it. Every time......you just need to listen closely......

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Is there a website that has

Is there a website that has the proper timings for seamlessly joining GD tracks once you upload them to iTunes? A rather specific request, I know, but some epic sequences need to be joined (looking at you, Dick's Picks 4 and Dick's Picks 16).

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Box N°3657

Received last week my box 3657 in France. Great job !
I'm very glad to listen this wonderful shows.

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Drums 3/25/90

I agree with all the praise of this box set so far! Just magnificent. I'm making my way show by show in order. I had read or heard I think on a DL Seaside chat about the Drums>Space being particularly strong during this tour and I agree. The 3/25 Drums is beautiful, very meditative. My only gripe with anything regarding the box - and it's a minor one - is that the 3/25 drums I mentioned gets cut at the end of disc 2 and of course continues on disc 3. Naturally there always has to be a cutover, but Bill and Mickey were in the middle of a beautiful groove at the cut that lasts for about another 35 seconds on disc 3 before there's a clear segue to Space as Jerry comes in. Would've loved to have that groove all on one "track" for disc-changer and for iPod shuffle purposes (and I don't think the issue was disc 2 space, the music was under an hour)...oh well, told you it was a minor gripe.

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50th Anniversary

A couple of folks have suggested a box set with one show from every year. Even if that is ONLY 100 discs, @ $10 per disc, that is $1,000. Count me out on that one!
Rock on

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I know this not the forum...

However GarciaLive Volume 5, 12/31/75, finally available for preorder at jerrygarcia.com. The t-shirt is cool. Already ordered the CD/T-shirt bundle shipping date is approx. 10/17/14. I've been waiting for the "official" announcement since August 25th. This show ROCKS, HAPPY WEDNESDAY, DEADLAND!!!!!!

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re: Mr Jack Straw

....4/1 was a revelation for me also. Awesome, awesome show...the first set is top notch Dead....

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...remember when they used to do Bonus Disc's?

3.24.90 Set:1 multi track remastered...
~it all fits on one disc~
just that alone woulda had this sold out long ago...
just a thought, as i'm listening to Brent SHRED
through his solo during Sugaree from 4.3.90...
oh well, maybe/hopefully they'll just do it...
THIS BOX SET IS EPIC!!!!! SOUNDS EPIC!!!!!!!
but we, all agree we NEED 3.24.90 Set:1 sounding like this...
period...
this woulda been thee perfect time to rectify that...
just sayin...

ps... 3.14.90... oooooooooooh man...
whatta way to start a tour...
...a crazy, crazy tour!!!

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Moving along....

...just finished digesting 3/28. Great show,great first set(as usual). New Minglewood,Queen Jane,Loose Lucy are great and I'll tell you, thats one of the best versions of "Cassidy" I've ever heard! It really rocks! Its a great show until the encore when they absolutely butcher "Revolution". I love ya Jer but that was not a fine moment. Taking a little "Dead Break" with some Jimi Hendrix(Cry of Love) and some George Harrison(Living In The Material World) and also the hi-light CD of CSNY 74. After purchasing this set corners had to be cut somewhere. Then it will be off to 3/29!!...Take care folks!!!!

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I am surprised...

...that given the almost universal praise that this box has gotten, that the last 1500 sets haven't sold out. It seems that the "1500 left" banner was raised around the time when the first boxes were hitting the streets, er, mailboxes. Usually that moves the fence sitters off the fence and into the poor house, LOL.

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Spring '90

I've finally completed my run through the new box. The sound is perfect. Definitely the best sounding GD release yet, although Go To Nassau and Nightfall of Diamonds also sound amazing and crystal-clear. The box is beautiful as well. Not as cool as a steamer trunk, but definitely well-done.

As for the performances, I think I've stated before that I prefer the shows on the first set to all except the 3/29/90 show. I have to revise my original statement slightly. The 4/1/90 show is a revelation. Although I've heard it before, I definitely had not heard it like this. To Lay Me Down and TMNS to end the first set is fantastic, and the entire 2nd set just smokes.

I don't think I can write anything new about 3/29. While the Jack Straw - Bertha opener is a bit lackluster for the time period, once Branford steps in, the band elevates its game to the highest level. Fantastic second set (although Branford seems to disappear on The Wheel).

As for the other shows, they're fine. I enjoyed 4/3 more than I thought I would, and the second set to 3/25 as well. Still would take the first box performance-wise, but with the improved SQ, you can't go wrong here either.

Next box? Dave has said several times that the tours he felt merited full release were Europe '72, Spring '90, May '77, and Fall '73. Unless the rest of those May '77 shows come home to the Vault, we're looking at a MASSIVE peak Dead set in 2015.

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What Branford was really wrong about:

Cecil Taylor

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Branford

I dug out my collection of his CDs and am revisiting them. "Bloomington" and "random Abstract" are terrific.

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mbarilla....your gut is correct

I purchased a Road Trips 2.2, Carousel 2-14-68, and it had the bonus disc in with the other two discs, not in a separate jacket.

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Eyes Of The World

This is an incredible box set, "Eyes Of The World" sounds better than ever , Garcia plays as freely as ever. Marsalis seems at ease "playing in the band"
WOW

54 3de

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I wonder how much "pushback"

I wonder how much "pushback" he got from the jazz community as the bandleader for "The Tonight Show with Jay Leno"?

On these performances, Branford seems to me almost a little lost at times just keeping up with the band, trying to get a note in wherever he could that would fit. All good though! Wish I had been there.

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Branford

That's a great point steve73, about the pushback Branford got from the jazz community about playing with the Dead. I knew a jazz musician years ago: he loved Branford but thought his playing with the Dead was a "sell out". I suppose he was also trying to "get my goat" a little bit.

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Spring 90 TOO 3-21-90

I am listening to the whole (released) tour in order and am up to Copps 3-21. It seems the Audience presence is greater on this show more so than the ones leading up to it. Maybe it's just my imagination. The other things I'm hearing is more separation on TOO than the first box and a more prominent Phil on TOO as well. Still can't figure out exactly why they would not have taken the opportunity to mix the first box right when they had the tapes. Bobby is going with the effeminate squealing on Estimated, and it makes cameos elsewhere which may not be for everyone. I like how the Victim gets way out there in the first set and into Standing on the Moon is sweet. Crazy Fingers>Cumberland is just Great. Brent is the MVP for me so far (China Doll 3-19, high harmonies on Loose Lucy 3-14 and 3-21), but really the whole band is cranking on all cylinders.

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1990, The Other One

Well as many folks have expressed, this box set is amazing. I got it on the 15th, and have only been through three shows so far. Quite possibly the BEST sounding live Grateful Dead recordings, ever.....and that says a lot. You actually feel like you're in the front row when you listen to them. I am totally enjoying these shows, and taking my time. :). Hope everyone is too. :)

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Same results kevjones

Fall 77 came with bonus disc, I got in the spring of 2014. I got MSG 90 last week and sadly, no bonus. I have ordered a few others since the Spring time, just hoping it would have showed up with bonus. And the only one was Fall 77'. For some odd reason I have a gut feeling the Valentines 68' show is being sent out with Bonus as well. But I don't have any proof. I already own that 68' set but it looks like a lot of sealed RT from Fall 77 and Feb. 68 showed up on eBay around the same time with bonus included.

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Bonus Disc

Hello Everyone,

I don't want to hijack the thread, but I wanted to let you know that I ordered a few single discs from Dead.net last week after receiving the box set. I guess when it rains, it pours. Anyway, I ordered the Fall 1977 Road Trips and, lo and behold, it had the bonus disc in it. I had heard about that there were some bonus discs floating around on some of the old Road Trips. Well, the 77 bonus was in my set. I was kind of hoping for this to be honest with you. They must be at the bottom of the barrel, so I'm guessing the inventory is running low. I also ordered the MSG '90 set, sadly no bonus disc there. The bonus disc I really wanted was from that MSG set and From Egypt with Love. Anyway, just thought I'd let you know.

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Listening in order

So far I've made it through the first 5 shows of this set beginning with Cap Center through the first Nassau show and am utterly blown away. Every show so far is a highlight unto themselves. Even without the Branford show and the two Omni stops, a run I attended, this would have been a satisfying box set. '87 - 'Summer '90 was truly a magical period for the Dead.

Seeing as how they recorded most if not all of the shows from Summer '89 through Spring '90, there is enough quality material on par with this box left to release another 4 or 5 box sets from this peak era.

So far I've resisted listening to the Branford show and the two Omni shows, both of which I attended in order to put myself into a more spiritual space. I was familiar with much of this tour with a few exceptions (Hartford and the first night in Nassau), and this listening experience reaffirms my view that this was a time when the Dead went beyond being mere musicians to superhero status.

What can I possibly say about Brent that already hasn't said? THIS is the tour that you play to turn people onto the Dead. A few bars of Loose Lucy from 3/14/90 should do the trick!

I have to thank everybody involved with the production of this set and congratulate for an exemplary job all around, but most of all, I have to thank everybody whose patience with my sometimes blunt commentary who showed such an amazing level of generosity when I hardly deserved it. Thank you!

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OK. Now I get it.

I stopped attending Grateful Dead concerts in 1986 after some disappointing shows. My collection of Dead recordings focuses on the pre-Brent period, particularly '69 to '73. I bought the first 1990 box and enjoyed it, with its in-the-audience sound perspective, sometimes muddy vocals, and other audio problems, but I didn't love it.

When this batch came along, I could not resist buying the Branford show. HOLY MOLY!

Aside from Branford Marsalis's performance, the fantastic sound quality and terrific performances by the Dead, themselves, simply blew me away. Had to download the rest. I've been listening to it (still a long way to go) ever since. All the polish of '77 and then some, with most of the youthful energy of prior decades. The psychedelia of the early days comes through from time to time, as well. I'm having a hell of a good time with this. Thanks to all involved.

(Re: the great Branford debate: I've been a jazz fan for quite a while, and a fan of Branford Marsalis's ever since I saw him and his younger brother perform as members of Art Blakey's Jazz Messengers in about 1980. I think it's important to understand the pushback he was getting for performing with rock groups, particularly Sting, and for forming his own funk/jazz group in the '80s. Jazz purists just hate it when one of their own finds success as a crossover. Branford had to defend himself in every interview with the jazz press and assure them that he was not abandoning jazz. Typically, he would tell them politely that they had their heads up their butts, rock music is fun for him, and artists like the Grateful Dead were a little different from Madonna in terms of complexity and artistic merit. Let's not get carried away by a phrase or two that he's uttered over the years.)

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Raves for '90 TOO

I think the awesomeness of this box speaks for itself, but just scroll down through the posts here if you are not sure. There is not one show out of the eight which does not have someone here singing its praises. The box, the cases, the accoutrements, and the great set lists mixed to perfection make this one for the ages. When the first Spring '90 box came out, I stated that it would be THE box set that all others would be judged against. Well, I may have to correct myself as this one has probably outdone that one! I love both, but the sound on this one is just amazing. It is surely a great time to be a listener of the best band in the land.
Rock on

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hseamons - unique to the first box

As for Unique to the first box: Delete "Hey Jude" 4/1 TOO.

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Miracle Coin

Got in touch with someone from Rhino via email, and the mystery was solved about the "Miracle" coin. Was told that the promotional copies of the box set that they gave away all had coins with "Miracle" on them and that I shouldn't have received it. Bummer - was hoping for that trip to the vault! Was told by Rhino that they would replace the set with a numbered one.

Listened to the copy of the Branford show today for the first time in the early hours of the morning while on the way to work - it really is worth the hype. Wow.

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More Branford Quotes

I believe the following quotes demonstrate that Branford immediately recognized the difference between the GD's 'sometimes tricky' songs & 'most popular songs.' Also that he understands that listening and playing within context is fundamental to the art of jamming and as such he joined the group onstage as a supportive listener, rather than a star soloist.

“When we did ‘Bird Song,’ the first thing I wanted to do was learn the form of the song. The Dead have some incredibly tricky tunes, but for the most part, popular songs are quite simple. People don’t want to go to music school when they’re listening to their music. Jamming doesn’t mean you can play whatever you want. You have a tremendous amount of leeway in context. If you understand the rules, then you have context. But it was a jam session. And I wasn’t going to step on the mainline. I was going to compliment what Jerry was doing. I would just respond to what I was hearing.”

“Every time I had played at a popular concert, I was in a horn section. There are specific spots where you play and specific spots where you don’t play. I’d never been in a situation where I was up there and they said ‘OK, let’s do this song.’ What I started to figure out was something I learned as a kid playing in New Orleans. One of the rules of playing in popular styles of music is that the singer is the most important person on stage – you can’t step on the singer. Then it was a matter of figuring out how I could function in a group context. One of the things I basically did was never play a note when [Jerry] sang the first chorus. I always waited to the second chorus. The world just doesn’t need that much sax playing in the middle of a song.”

http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/09/08/grateful-dead-branford-marsalis-interview/

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By Way of Comparison...

Here are the 30 songs unique to the first box set:

Attics of My Life - 3/30
Beat It on Down the Line - 3/22
Believe It or Not - 3/22
Big Railroad Blues - 3/26
Black Throated Wind - 3/16, 3/26
Blow Away - 3/16, 3/26
Box of Rain - 3/19
Brokedown Palace - 3/19, 3/26
Brown Eyed Women - 3/19, 4/2
Built to Last - 3/26
China Doll - 3/19, 3/30
Death Don't Have No Mercy - 4/2
Dire Wolf - 3/30
Don't Ease Me In - 3/22, 3/30
Dupree's Diamond Blues - 3/26
Fire on the Mountain - 3/22
Franklin's Tower - 3/24, 3/30
Gimme Some Lovin' - 3/19, 3/26, 3/30
Help on the Way - 3/24, 3/30
Hey Jude - 3/22
It Must Have Been the Roses - 3/22
It's All Over Now - 3/19, 3/30
Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues - 3/30
The Last Time - 3/16, 3/22, 4/2
Let the Good Times Roll - 3/16, 3/24
Loser - 3/16, 3/24
Peggy-O - 3/16
Slipknot! - 3/24, 3/30
Terrapin Station - 3/30
West L.A. Fadeaway - 3/22

TOO has 13 more unique songs, at 43. Fence sitters have no choice now. Thanks!

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hseamons (and Wolfclan77)

Like Dantian said, if you're Hunter Seamons: Thank You!
I am listening to the Seamons matrix of 7/1/85 right now. Sounds FANTASTIC! The three tracks I picked from my former (audience) source of the show are about to be replaced by eight tracks from this matrix mix source.
Obtained through the wondrous graces of "Wolfclan77", perhaps someone who frequents this website's comment threads (Wolfclan77 has also posted 9/18/74 and e few others that have been mentioned recently here...hmmm...).
Big thanks to Hunter Seamons for all the matrix mixes you worked on and made available to the on-line World and to Wolfclan77 for recently posting so many Dead shows that I want to a website I can D/L them through.
I have a personal goal of upgrading my remaining LMA MP3-sourced shows to GDM releases or "Lossless Source" D/Ls. W77 has enabled me to do more upgrades in a couple of months than GDM has in 3 years!
Big thanks to Charlie Miller while I am at it!

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That's not condescension.

It is harmonically simple. Isn't it? Yeah, it mostly is.

And Marsalis' point is that some jazz players are so full of themselves that they think that means they're above it. If anything, that reads as a dis to many jazz players.

Like some jazz players, it seems some rock fans apparently also think the observation that the music is harmonically simple is an insult. Marsalis is saying that's wrong.

This is really making something out of nothing.

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hseamons

If you're the matrix guy, I just want to say thanks for all the great work you do. I have many of your matrices and they're top notch. Thanks!

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hseamons' list

hseamons - that is just incredible, thanks for doing that. One of the things which finally conviinced me to shell out for this box was the unbellievable variety of setlitsts. Much as I love the May 77 box, it sure has more repetition. (Not to mention Europe 72 - Mr. Charlie anyone?)

Bolo, I don't disagree at all re: Branford. As I mentioned, he does say a lot of positive things too. But, I don't think Palmer was misconstruing anything either... I just felt like offering a little back-up there.

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It's all about context

Branford also said this:

"Those guys can play music...they're American musical icons. They're fantastic! As a matter of fact, I just bought their records. I went out and copped 'em all."

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43 Reasons to Purchase Spring 1990 TOO

None of these songs appear on the first box:

All Along the Watchtower - 3/18
Althea - 4/1
Big River - 3/14, 4/1
Black Peter - 3/14, 3/25
Candyman - 4/1
Cassidy - 3/28
Cold Rain and Snow - 3/14, 3/28
Crazy Fingers - 3/14, 3/21, 3/25, 4/3
Cumberland Blues - 3/21, 3/28
Dark Star - 3/29
Far From Me - 3/21
Friend of the Devil - 3/18
Greatest Story Ever Told - 3/25
Hey Pocky Way - 3/21, 3/28
High Time - 3/28
I Will Take You Home - 3/25, 4/3
Jack Straw - 3/29
Knockin' on Heaven's Door - 3/21, 3/29
Loose Lucy - 3/14, 3/21, 3/28
Mama Tried - 3/14
Me and My Uncle - 3/18, 4/1
Mexicali Blues - 3/18
The Music Never Stopped - 3/18, 4/1
Never Trust a Woman - 3/14, 3/25
Promised Land - 3/21, 3/29, 4/3
Quinn the Eskimo - 3/25
Ramble On Rose - 3/18, 3/29
Revolution - 3/28
Shakedown Street - 3/18, 4/3
Spoonful - 3/18, 3/25
Stagger Lee - 3/18
Stuck Inside of Mobile with the Memphis Blues Again - 3/14
Sugaree - 4/3
Throwing Stones - 3/21, 3/29, 4/3
To Lay Me Down - 4/1
Turn On Your Lovelight - 3/14, 3/21, 3/29
U.S. Blues - 3/18
Walkin' Blues - 4/1
Wang Dang Doodle - 3/25
We Bid You Goodnight - 4/3
Wharf Rat - 3/21, 3/28
The Wheel - 3/18, 3/29
When I Paint My Masterpiece - 3/18, 3/25, 3/29, 4/3

My apologies for any errors. I did this quickly. Very quickly while listening to 3/18.

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Branford

Thanks for the back-up claney. So I'm not completely nuts. I think we all love Branford here, but he has a healthy ego and is outspoken. My guess is he's never heard the Dead's best music: i.e. FW 69, Europe 72, Watkins Glen....

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Branford, simplicity, etc

I feel the need to back Palmer up on this one... I don't have the box set yet (just ordered it), so I'm not sure if you are debating something he wrote in that or in some other source. But I did just re-read the Rolling Stone interview with Branford, and yes he does say some complimentary things about the band, but he also says this:

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"The one thing about the Dead was their level of intensity. Harmonically most of the music was simple - one, two chords. But the intensity was off the chain."

"The 7/4 time [in Estimated Prophet] was not a big deal to to a guy who plays jazz. Where jazz guys fuck up playing with pop and rock bands is they seem insulted by the simplicity."

"Harmonically it was simple enough that I could catch on quickly."

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I'm not sure if Palmer was reading that or another article, but I really don't see how the above quotes can be construed any other way. One could argue Branford is saying that simplicity is a good thing, but you can't argue that he isn't saying the Dead's music was simple pop/rock music, because that is literally what he is saying.