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It’s that time of year, when the Dave’s Picks subscriptions for 2014 go on sale. In 2012, the series was limited to 12,000 units of each release. Last year, we increased that to 13,000. And for 2014, you guessed it, each Dave’s Pick will be limited to 14,000 units.

It’s that time of year, when the Dave’s Picks subscriptions for 2014 go on sale. In 2012, the series was limited to 12,000 units of each release. Last year, we increased that to 13,000. And for 2014, you guessed it, each Dave’s Pick will be limited to 14,000 units. And just as all releases in 2012 and 2013 sold out, quickly, we expect the same in 2014, particularly with the quality of music we have planned for release. The only way to ensure you’ll receive all four releases in 2014 is to subscribe.

For those of you who can't stand the suspense, news has come in about Dave's Picks Vol. 9, the first of our four releases for next year. We're very pleased to revisit the Wall Of Sound era, with a complete show that took place on May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. (You can find more details about this show in the 2013 Almanac.)

Although we haven’t mapped things out too far beyond Dave’s Picks Vol. 9, further digging through a batch of tapes returned to us in 2012 revealed more than we expected, so you in turn can plan on something excellent from the 1969-1971 era, likely something you’ve never heard. We spend months working on each and every release to make sure it’ll be something that you’ll happily hear again and again, and we’ve already got some great ideas in mind for the four releases in 2014.

Show specifics aside, no matter how you slice it, Dave’s Picks subscribers get the very best deal – four spectacular limited-edition numbered releases, free domestic shipping, and a stellar bonus disc that will arrive with Volume 10, in May 2014. The last two bonus discs have proven immensely popular, so naturally we’ll have another cool, interesting, exciting and rare treat for you in 2014.

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matchewy's picture
Joined: Apr 10 2008
@Doc Shakedown

I love the Dark Star>Bobby Cowboy tune>Dark Star transitions, as well. A favorite is the one from the Rheinhalle, '72 with Me and my Uncle wedged in. It gives me this strange sensation of parallel universes colliding with the contrast of space, and American folk. It really is the essence of GD.

Furthermore, if it weren't for Bobby's cowboy tunes, I would not have had a jumping off point when my interests in the Bakersfield sound developed as a youngun.

I'm with you, man. Don't go nowhere. We will find peace in this valley. Take watcha need and leave the rest.

Bach 2 Bach's picture
Joined: Jun 5 2007

...we're an opinionated bunch, aren't we? I guess a kinder description might be 'passionate'.

Did I correctly hear Dave say in his 'fogside chat' that Alpine '89 was a potential candidate for box set release in 2014? If so, I hope the video is part of that mix.

**Postscript: I know I'm getting old, but didn't think I was THAT old just yet... I went back and listened to the fogside chat and didn't catch any mention of Alpine '89.... But I could've sworn I heard him mention it somewhere, maybe it was on one of his other chats... anyway, sorry folks... it's time for my nap... As Emily Litella would say, 'Nevermind'...

Underthevolcano's picture
Joined: Feb 6 2008
releases for the next 20 years...

October, 2033. Dear Journal. Today is arrival day for the very last release of Grandpa Dave's Picks, no. 1000. The folks here at the convalescent home are getting rowdy-some with anticipation, some angry about listening to those Jerry guys screaming and shouting again and some just don't remember why. I've got my walker all tricked out today for the occasion. I got my AARP "Steal Your Face" sticker stuck on it and am wearing my one-piece jama jumpsuit with the Terrapin Station terrapins dancing away. My bedpan has the "Skull and Roses" logo-way cool. Anyway we are all hoping that old Bob, the USPS employee(gonna be 92 this fall-he can't retire-they don't have any qualified candidates these days) doesn't get lost again or forget where he put all those packages. I'm glad they decided to issue these picks in 8Track-I just can't seem to remember how to get that dang CD player thingie to work anymore and my son don't even know what the heck it is-he is talking clouds and vermillion tooth-I don't what all. Ah well, Dear Diary, I hear the siren blasting for mail call-poor old Mickey over there-he still can't hear it and it don't matter cause he don't even remember the show that he played in.

cosmicbadger's picture
Joined: Jun 13 2007

Yes I got the refund too. Either a mistake or kind generosity to make up for the absurd international shipping charges we had to pay a couple of years ago. The charges have been much more reasonable lately, and this is even better.

Joined: Jun 6 2007

Just had a message to say that I will be getting a USD 15.95 refund on my DP sub.
This is equal to the international delivery charge.
Anyone else got this? I have always paid delivery in the past.


Joined: Dec 17 2011
30 days

Today's entry is Shakedown.

Vguy72's picture
Joined: Jun 29 2007
Whooahh....the Fronton....

Forgot about that one for a bit. I agree. The Spanish Jam into US Blues is a highlight for the Dead hands down. That segue is a monster, no matter your musical preference. Just Google imaged the venue (I like to do that for various locations from time to time), and I must say, Intimate, yet imposing. A straight up section of bleachers (?) facing head on. (Into a maelstrom that evening). Now where's that time machine.

Can't we all just get along?---Rodney King

Joined: Nov 2 2010
and purchased once again...

looking forward to another year worth of releases dave and crew. psyched for 5/14/74...yet, not to be a nit picky, lord knows there's enough of those in deadhead land, but uh, um, where's 2/24/74 in these glut of releases? talk about a worthy '74 show, talk about a top 25 show, talk about a top 10 show...

happy to take this trip again as the wheel keeps turning 'round.

again, thanks dave and crew

Joined: Apr 1 2008
Just what the Doctor ordered ....

.... a Gainseville release! - Steve

Joined: May 4 2012
Here we go again...

I'm on board for another year. The Missoula setlist isn't quite in my pocket as WRS seems to be a biggun but that's a cut that doesn't get me going the way some of the other bigguns do. Whatever, it's still the Dead and the series has been great. I still usually toss chunks of it into a big playlist and "shuffle" albums and it works great. I have songs, e.g. "China Doll" that I won't listen to, even in a big jam, like Dick's #29 but totally dig the vibe. Sometimes, I pick up a new set and will listen to it over and over again before I decide which tracks I want on the "Deadzilla" list but it's a fun and diverting hobby. Another thing I've thought listening to the spate of recent releases is that they seem, for the most part, to have pretty sweet vocals but I've always felt like the WOS sounds, recordingwise, to be harder to sing to. The d/l stuff out the on it sounds pretty good but the DaP always seem to crank out really sweet mixes. The $$ is no big deal to me so I'm in.

Re the 80s issue, I went to Alpine in '85, one show pony. I didn't really groove on the Dead until later, perhaps a way to find a 'country' sound that is in line with my taste for trippy shit, reading "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test", etc. I haven't heard much from the graphite-neck guitar era that gets me going the way the 70s stuff does but I grew up on WLUP in Chicago, Zeppelin, Rainbow, UFO, etc. so maybe there's some sort of deep-seated addiction to wood necks. I'm looking forward to what they're shipping tomorrow anyway. If it rocks it rocks, if it doesn't well, I'm sure it'll rock just a bit. And roll, and swing and jam...etc...

Joined: Dec 17 2011
Here's hoping...

That DL chooses 10/15/76 & 4/9/83 for the DP Subscription for 2012. If he don't that's ok too because I will be GRATEFUL for whatever shows get released. I'm glad that I LOVE a band that has about 2,314 shows to choose from and we have access to about 75% of them. What other band has the following that the Dead have? So I'd rather be positive about it than negative. Now I won't say that I wasn't disappointed by some releases however I own them because every show in my opinion has something to it. For me these 3 shows come to mind, 1/22/71 & 8/24/85 & 6/15/95 to ME these are 3 dud shows. I've been a Deadhead since 1979 (1/5/79 The Spectrum, RIP) & have faced the fact that the Dead do have an off night occasionally. However when it comes to these kinds of forums I never bash anyone because we may not agree. Let's face it one mans meat is another mans poison. So I don't bash anyone. In fact I take suggestions from everyone on this site. I got turned on to a whole lot of shows thru this site and I try to return the favor because like most humans I only have 2 ears and they can't hear over 2000 shows at once, so I do take heed & because I remain teachable I have amassed quite a collection of shows based on the power of suggestion. THANK YOU,YOU GRATE(FUL) FOLKS!!!!!

Would anyone out here in Deadland like to see a stand alone release in 2014. Just a regular release w/o a DVD, t-shirt etc. etc. I think the last stand alone release was in 2009, To Terrapin, 5/28/77, this year we're getting the "wooden" set from 4/17/70. So in 2014 I'd like to a non limited edition show for the masses. Does anyone else feel that way? Just musing on a Thursday night TV is kind of boring plus the WS is over. So to all you Bostonians, CONGRATULATIONS on winning the World Series, GO SOX!!!!!!!!!

Joined: Mar 18 2010
Nice call Ibo...

The Dark Star Jam from 6/23/74- missed that one. This jam is a favorite- one of many reasons the So Many Roads box set is a treasure.

Joined: Oct 31 2013

I say release whatever shows make Pfox the most miserable and the rest of us can unconditionally enjoy whatever music is put out.

Joined: May 7 2010
Hey Zuckfun

You missed 6-23 from the Miami Jai Alai Fronton. I guess you could call it a Dark Star Jam since they never get to the lyrics but its good and is part of a great sequence, DS>Spanish Jam>US Blues. Probably my favorite US Blues.

drshakedown's picture
Joined: Mar 1 2010

I responded to someones comment and I got four of this and that comments of "I wish they would of" and "if only they woulda"......this has become nauseating on here. It started with Pfox and now has attracted a pessimistic vibe. I am leaving this sites chats.......thank you to all who gave such great suggestions for shows and songs and places. Thank you Dave and Jeff, and everyone else in the vault for your awesome work. I will buy it all if the quality stays as it has been, which is beyond stellar on all fronts.

Let the words be yours, I am done with mine............................................

drshakedown's picture
Joined: Mar 1 2010
El Paso

I quite frankly dont give a shit what they play when they are in the pocket like that show. After that Playin and Birdsong, I wouldnt care if they sang Ring around the rosey all friggin night. Man alive.

PalmerEldritch's picture
Joined: Jul 25 2011
SSDD Star>El Paso

The beginning of El Paso in the film is kind of funny. Jerry turns his back to the crowd as Bob begins singing. Then it looks like Bob has a panic attack and gestures in Jerry's direction toward the front of the stage. Was he worried Jerry would leave him in the lurch? Not to worry, the big budda was in control and made it to the mic right on cue. :)

Joined: Jan 13 2010

check out 8/21/72. jerry goes even farther into playing MD, but the band cuts him off. that one will get you crazy, too.

Joined: Apr 1 2008
re: >el paso vs. >dew

Yeah, I always thought bob cranked the flow of things from time to time, but then again the cowboy tune in the middle of the psychedelic melee really encapsulated the dead's essence of variety and musical acrobatics (thinking of some of those late 71 jams with me an my uncle in the middle of other one etc.).

As for Veneta, I agree that dew would have flowed better, but the consolation I take is that they would likely not have done sing me back home if they had done the dew. Maybe not (think 5/26/72) but then again this is all conjecture cause that ain't the way it happened!

I always felt bob's choice of BIODTL to follow the Dark Star > Dew on 9/21/72 was a particularly poor choice, but hey I wasn't there so what do I know.

Joined: Sep 17 2012
I don't care...

60's, 70's 80's,90's. It all sounds good to me.

A great '71 show always tweaks my twiddle but I've got no complaints with what Dave's dishing out.

In fact nows a good time for Dick's #2. Happy Halloween all!

drshakedown's picture
Joined: Mar 1 2010
El Paso

is some of my favorite work Garcia does......thee electron.

drshakedown's picture
Joined: Mar 1 2010

sounded like a Dew coming, yet, I hear stuff coming down the tracks all the time. Furthur is very fun to call tunes with.....will miss it for sure. Cheers.

tysonsupina's picture
Joined: May 5 2013
el paso out of darkstar

Veneta was one of my first bootlegs and for many years I was infuriated by the choice to go into el paso instead of morning dew (which sounded like jerry was leading into). I blamed bobby for this, but you CANT CHANGE THE PAST.
I've learned to accept it after reading somewhere that the crowd was on the verge of freakin out out so instead they went w/ something w/ a regular beat/tempo as to not send them over the edge. Still wonder how sick that am dew would have been.
The release of veneta on blu-ray alone has satisfied me for the year. Just grateful dave and co. are getting these things out.

Spikor82's picture
Joined: Mar 9 2013
amazing, bring them on!

RE: zuckfun

I believe that Dave has stated they could continue with the rate of releases they are currently producing for the next twenty years.

mustin321's picture
Joined: Aug 12 2011

I believe that Dave has stated they could continue with the rate of releases they are currently producing for the next twenty years.

Joined: Mar 18 2010
1983-1987- The unfilled gaps

I wonder where we're at in terms of the grand scheme of releases. Starting in earnest in 1993 (Dick's Picks 1) seems maybe we're at the halfway point? Whose to say. Will the formula in the second half change much? Can the number of releases of a given year simply be doubled to gauge the next 20 years? For 1984's sake, let's hope not. I'm always disappointed reading fans are hoping for a particular era to (ever) be represented, and year after year this hope bears no fruit. Dick's Picks 6- remember that? The only release from 1983. 30 Dick's Picks later, 17 Road Trips and atleast 10 Dave's Picks- it remains alone. Fans didn't know this would be all from 1983. And nearly 20 years later- are we still left to wonder? Double the quantity from the halfway point- surely this won't be completely accurate. But it seems any significant variation is not to be expected.

miroth's picture
Joined: Feb 8 2008
To ALL my bothers & sisters in Deadheadland

To ALL my bothers & sisters in Deadheadland, whether I agree with you or not:

Much LOVE and Happy Halloween! (and Happy New Year to all the pagans out there!)

I for one have happily placed my subscription order for the 3rd year running! Keep those comments coming & remember to play nice, kids!

:-) :-) :-)

Spikor82's picture
Joined: Mar 9 2013
this is lame

i think everyone should be happy and fortunate that there is still relevant releases of a band nearing 50 years of age. no other band gets this much live material released. we should be happy that the bus is still rolling. i'm not a dead head, just a fan of 60s rock, I prefer the Pig years the most, an the Dead were the last San Fran band that i got into, but they are the ones i the most releases from (SF bands) lets just be happy these releases are still coming after so many other artists catalog/live releases have dried up.

Vguy72's picture
Joined: Jun 29 2007
to all you Dark Star fiends

You really need to get the Grayfolded cd. BTW, bring on some Big Sky Country Dead. I'm all in.

Joined: Oct 29 2013
One Word

Re comment titled "Deal With It." You should say it doesn't FAZE me......not it doesn't "phase" me. Just sayin'.

Joined: Jun 4 2007

I like what the new jerry series is a variety they have an 80s a 74 and a 90s so far maybe Dave should take a look at what they are doing again variety?

Joined: Oct 2 2012
Steal Your Face

I apologize if this posts twice. The original did not appear to take.

Yup, the Steal Your Face was on that rock beside the NYS Thruway toll booths for as long as I can remember. It always marked our turnoff heading north out of NYC.

PF, you claim to answer all questions, yet will still do not know your first show.

Utility curves mr. economics, utility curves.

drshakedown's picture
Joined: Mar 1 2010

Agree 100%.....and loved the WRS description. My favorite moment lately on releases was the birth of El Paso out of that Darkstar off the Veneta release, wow.

Joined: Jul 20 2007
RE: estimated-eyes, PFox

estimated-eyes, that is a fascinating perspective on the perils of curating from a vast collection for pubic viewing/consumption, thanks for sharing that. You should seriously email that to Dave (he might enjoy getting an email that is something other than a query about whether a certain show is in the Vault).

PFox, Glad you're not going away, you do spice it up. And I've made that point about DP12 many times myself, as clear evidence that "compilations" can be popular - it is probably the release most consistently cited as among the best (it may be my favorite single release).

But, I'll try one more time: Check out rdevil's recent post in which he respectfully and logically debates some of Spacebro's points about '80's shows. To me this is a perfect example of how to strongly make one's points without resorting to personal insults. Whereas in your most recent post you say things like "i don't need to borrow quotes from others, because i'm not witless" - which of course is calling a guy "witless" just because he quoted Mark Twain.

So yes, please do stick around - can you just please stop the personal insults? (It is true that you'll get fewer responses, sadly it works that way, so if you are only gauging this by the number of responses you get, you may want to keep insulting people).

Joined: Dec 31 2008
Dave the curator

I wish Dave would release some more 80s stuff, but then I consider my professional existence. I am a history museum curator with an office close to the galleries and exit. I get to hear from visitors who want to know why I left out a story or don't have a particular artifact on exhibit. It drives me a little crazy. So, I have sympathy for Dave's position and compare my responses (not always vocalized to the questioner, but my gut response) to Dave's possible rationale:

1. Not enough space for that right now. Dave: I only get four releases per year.
2. We don't have one of those in the collection. Dave: Not in the vault.
3. It is in really poor condition. Dave: The recording in the vault is not good.
4. I know you worked at that company, but its impact on the area's history was limited and I can't put every company's history on display. Dave: I know you were at that show and you had a great time, but listening to the show reveals it to be a mediocre show not worthy of release.
5. I have more on this company from its heyday because that is when its best products were released and its advertising was at its best. Dave: I could release more shows to give more equal representation to eras, but the best music was from 1968-77. I think it is better to release the best music over very good or good music.

I am a "Touch Head" who got on in 1988. I would like to see more 1980s releases, but I understand Dave's dilemma. He can't please all of us all of the time. I think his only miss so far has been Dave's 7, but that is only my opinion. I will get the subscription this year to save money-- judging by last year when I bought 3 and would have bought 4 if it had not sold out so quickly.

Joined: Nov 2 2010
Dave's Picks

Hey Dave,
There is a whole lot of back and forth about "Why don't you release later shows? There is too much attention paid to the '60's & '70's." In my humble opinion, your open & careful attention to detail and laser sharp archival eye (and ears) makes available some of the BEST music out there. Keep on doing what you've been doing. Lovers of the DEAD, thirsty for their music, will return to the fountain, I promise you!
Best as always from NYC,

Joined: Oct 3 2009
Don't miss out!

Don't miss out on account of supposed lack of "diversity":

This Missoula show is The Real Deal. I do believe I burnt a copy of a goodly portion of set II for one of this board's top "80's supporters"... I believe they were wowed. Appropriately.

Dave mentioned the intense feedback jam in Dark Star -- that's fine, but not the highlight. The jam out of WRS and through the beginning of Dark Star is just sublime and unequaled. Beautiful and melodic, yes, and there are a few moments where an almost dub reggae feel is established.

I'm going to only say "already?" to this talk of slighted eras. Are we not waiting to get our hands on the latest pick now -- from 1980? Did we not quite recently have an over-the-top lavish production of a huge batch of 1990 shows? Calendar decades are no way to reasonably assess the changes in this band anyway!

This show has been burning a hole in the vault trying to get out. Now is its time. Give it its moment. Don't miss it.

guit30's picture
Joined: May 1 2009
80s,90s, The times inbetween,

I was recently looking at the list of Dick's Picks and his content, there are some awesome shows there, I counted about 4 out of 36 as being in the eighties or very early 90s. The rest are mostly 70s and some later 60s shows. Why are there not more 80s shows?? After a couple of years of Dave's picks, He isn't putting them out at a much higher clip. My first show was a fall Spectrum show, It might have been DP36, but I do not remember the exact date. I saw the Dead about 4 times in 73, all at the Spectrum. I saw the Wall of Sound show at the first August Date, The Wall of Sound was Spectacular to listen to live, after you got used to it's enormous size. The only recording that really does it justice imo, was the Winterland Box or GDM Box set at the end of 74,the other recordings seem to have a problem with the phase cancelling microphones which make the vocals a little rough. I went to a really good show in June of 76 at 4 night run at the Tower Theater in Philly, having 3rd row seats. This was an awesome experience, The Tower is small and the band was about 20 feet in front of me and my wife. I have Road Trips, 4.5 which was was a run at Boston just before the Tower Experience. In 77, my best show was DP15, which was a huge outside show with the NRPS and Marshall Tucker Band Also. Beautiful September day, with a great crowd and a very good 77 show. That was the last good show that I went to, saw them once in 78 and just did not enjoy the show that much and that was my last show.
Why don't I think that anyone released many 80's shows is I just do not believe that they are there. May be wrong, but that is my belief, don't think it has to do with band's performance,but I heard they went digital and the quality was not that good. That is just here say though, --------

DarkStarr1971's picture
Joined: Jul 15 2008
" More of the Smoking Hot 1980's Please"

I love the 70's shows that have been presented, but dag I crave a hot early to mid 80's show. Bobby was onfire on the slide, and hell, the whole band was on a special kinda freaking fire most nights . I love em all, but I have a thing for the 80's I just cant get over. I will re subscribe this year for Daves Picks 2014, but please Dave, throw us some more 80s soon.

hornsby's picture
Joined: Nov 2 2010
I'll tell ya what time of year it is...

time for 30 days!!! bring it.
oh yeah, i'm down with another round of Dave's picks.
who can resist?
now bring on the songs I'm ready to guess
cant wait cant wait cant wait cant wait cant wait cant wait

tysonsupina's picture
Joined: May 5 2013
always been a favorite

Yes rdevil,

I've had a copy of 5/19/74 for at least 20 years now and it's been a fav of mine this whole time. Hope it's one of the next vault releases. Long live the WALL OF SOUND!!!'s picture
Joined: Nov 3 2007
Personally, I dig it all

Be it 1969 or 1989, 1965 or 1995. I find stuff I like quite a bit in every year. That being said, things are always going to be slighted on official releases. For example, 7-31-74 was the first whole show release from '74 but it's also a lot less impressive than, say 6-18-74. I'm a big late '60's/'70's fan. I would've also preferred to have 10-21-71 released in it's entirety with DaP 3 being a four disc set. That didn't happen either. Still, I love what we get and I'm thankful but hopefully the series will become more and more inclusive.

The idea that "most of you aren't any better than lame teenagers who listen to lady gaga & the black eyed peas. music that gets FM radio play today is formula driven, because people who can't appreciate music just want to hear something similar to what they've heard before." is pretty silly given the fact that were talking about a band that haven't played a new show or existed in nearly 19 years.

PalmerEldritch's picture
Joined: Jul 25 2011

Nice post, rdevil. You make some really good points. I am a "pre-hiatus" purist, but I did see all my 27 shows between 1982-1995. I felt back then, and even now, the Dead in those years were the best damn live Rock band still playing. They were still making vital, authentic music. For me, their last 15 years still holds up better than any other "rock music" from that time, or hell- since then. It's just compared to 68-74, well, you know.....

antonjo's picture
Joined: Jun 4 2007
74 space

(Fox, I'd rather you be around than not.)

To me, this new one is kind of a counterpart to RT 2.3, since I got big chunks of 5/14 and Louisville Freedom Hall 6/18 at around the same time (along with 6/20 at the Omni--with the great Eyes -> Slipknot! -> China Doll sequence). The jazz-Dead sequences of this May-June corridor--that jam out of Let It Grow on Dick's 12, 6/26, is another one--are deep stuff. The Blues For Allah Dead was definitely born from their compost.

The first & last discs of Dick's 31 are sublime. The Playing that kicks off the release is epic; Billy has to be the most underrated rock drummer ever. Then that set-closing Eyes to kick off disc 4 and the Scarlet->Playin->Uncle John's that follows.....whew. When they lock in in '74, they really lock in.

PatagonianFox's picture
Joined: Oct 25 2011
deal with it.

regardless of what some of you think; i'm a contributor to this forum, and thats not going to change. you can call me an asshole or a troll, but it doesn't phase me. i don't know any of you, and i wouldn't want to hang out with most of you anyway.

if you look at my posts in this thread;: i've not only answered questions, i was also the first to advise others to order by phone, because the website was adding shipping charges. i don't just voice opinions people don't like, and i'm not always deliberately trying to be abrasive. sometimes it comes off that way, because i know how to express myself in print. i don't need to borrow quotes from others, because i'm not witless. however, if my opinions irritate you, you don't have to read them.

like i said; i can buy whatever the f^ck i want, so it really doesn't matter what dave releases. if its the same old sh!t i'll still buy it, and just rip it to iTunes. i have more than 1700 other albums to choose from. most of you aren't any better than lame teenagers who listen to lady gaga & the black eyed peas. music that gets FM radio play today is formula driven, because people who can't appreciate music just want to hear something similar to what they've heard before.

think about it.

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Joined: Nov 1 2010
SPAC and NYS Thruway


I was at a couple of those mid 80s SPAC shows (I remember getting soaked in a storm on the field…had a hard time burning anything…). Looks like rain indeed! Does anyone have any idea if any these shows made it to the vault?
On an unrelated 80's note; I think I read somewhere that the 1980 summer’s end Lewiston, Maine show is missing from the vault. Has this been confirmed? From what I can recall, it would be more than worthy of the "official release" treatment.
On yet another unrelated note; Does anyone remember (and can possibly supply a photo of) the large boulder sitting somewhere off the northbound NYS thruway near Harriman, NY? It was emblazoned with a beautifully painted Steal Your Face logo. It was there for years, and foolishly I thought it would always be there. If anyone has a pic to share I would be grateful.
Regarding Dave's Picks; if I can, I'll purchase a well mastered show from any year. For me, there is always something new to discover.

Peace all!

rdevil's picture
Joined: Nov 2 2007
most critically acclaimed?

Spacebro, you make some interesting points but sometimes your passion leads to a little exaggeration. In the Dark might be the Dead's most critically acclaimed studio album but as far as live performances go the late 80s are certainly NOT the most critically acclaimed era. There may be some "outsider" types from Rolling Stone that feel that way but it's safe to say that among those critics with a deep knowledge of the Dead, the most critically acclaimed live performances are from before 1980.
Not trying to pick on you, man, but I think some of these points are worthy of debate.
As for the popularity of the late 80s, I think it's a chicken or the egg situation. During the conservative late Reagan/Bush years a lot of us younger kids (at the time) were feeling we missed out on what was good about the 60s and 70s and the Dead provided a place to experience some of those good vibes. One could argue that because the Dead were so good in the 60s/70s many of us jumped on the bus in the late Brent years.
Yeah, In the Dark and the cool MTV video for Touch of Gray were factors in the popularity surge but after Jerry's coma there were tons of guys like me who felt like they never got to see Keith Moon, never got to see Zeppelin and better get to a Grateful Dead concert before Jerry dies. Of course, it's fair to say that if the Dead hadn't been playing so well at the time many of us wouldn't have kept coming back. The point is, the commercial success and newfound popularity the Dead experienced in the late 80s wouldn't have happened without the reputation they built in the 60s/70s as a great live act.
There are a lot of release worthy shows from the 80s and some from the Hornsby era too, but the Grateful Dead's popularity today is really a result of the incredible live performances of their first 10 to 13 years of playing live.
It's kind of funny, Spacebro, you and I probably agree on way more than we disagree on, but we both have passionate opinions. Surely we'll get a release or two from 81-91 in 2014 and I hope it (or they) is one you mentioned on that cool list you posted on one of these boards several releases ago.

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Joined: Jul 25 2011
74, so far

Just mulling over the official 74 releases. So far:
1. DP7 (9/9-11/74)
2. DP12 (6/26-28/74)
3. DP24 (3/23/74)
4. DP31 (8/4-6/74)
5. RT2.3 (6/16-18/74)
6. DaP2(7/31/74)
7. GDmovie/soundtrack(10-16-20/74)

Only 7? That seems low for this great year. I love 74 Dead dearly but I must say DP7 seems an odd choice, especially from Latvala. I've listened to it many times over the years and it just seems kind of lackluster for 74. Someone earlier in this thread said it was one of their favorites- guess i will give it another listen. I don't listen to DP24 much. the sound quality seems weird to me and there are no long jams. Everything else is pure gold. I agree, this once, with the Pat Fox that DP12 is one of the very best of the Dick's Picks series.
Didn't Dave mention 6 Dark Stars in 74 during his last talk?

Joined: Jan 13 2010
I'd love a SPAC release

6/18/83 proves that GD83 is top-notch
6/27/85 a favorite from GD85

good call!

if we are fluffing the 80s, I'll put in a vote for Oxford, Maine. I have supported that for years. It would have been a perfect Road Trips. I didn't attend the shows, but knew at the time they would be special.


Maine has good shows

Joined: Mar 18 2010
The gift that keeps on giving

How about an extra nice Christmas present for her if she can cover the shipping? Or maybe change to standard shipping in the spirit of compromise. Anyways, just my 2 cents. And I'm quite far from a person who should give advice about such things. So, here's a grain of salt- Take it, please. Pretty sure there's five 1974 Dark Stars:
9/10 and 10/18.