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For those of you who can't stand the suspense, news has come in about Dave's Picks Vol. 9, the first of our four releases for next year. We're very pleased to revisit the Wall Of Sound era, with a complete show that took place on May 14, 1974, at Adams Field House at the University of Montana in Missoula, the Grateful Dead's only appearance in the state of oro y plata. This monstrously hot show is the third official show of the Wall Of Sound, which had debuted in March 1974. (You can find more details about this show in the 2013 Almanac.)
Although we haven’t mapped things out too far beyond Dave’s Picks Vol. 9, further digging through a batch of tapes returned to us in 2012 revealed more than we expected, so you in turn can plan on something excellent from the 1969-1971 era, likely something you’ve never heard. We spend months working on each and every release to make sure it’ll be something that you’ll happily hear again and again, and we’ve already got some great ideas in mind for the four releases in 2014.
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I'm still waiting for my residual!
Anyway, im in the Brent and Bruce eras camp, even the dec 92 dicks pick was great, but that said the WRS from dicks 7 is to me the greatest piece of music I've heard by any band. The jam in let it grow gets my heart pumping every time I hear it such is the attack of the band.
No such physical responses from the 80s 90s, so more 74 is good for me.
if not my likely longevity.
Maybe Garcia was listening to it in 95, the fool...
I actually like Brent as a keyboardist, once he grew into his own in the late 80s and adopted a fuller and more soulful sound. It's not his fault that the band was a shadow of it's former self by that time, mostly due to Garcia's disinterest and drug abuse. Blow Away is a great song, although, I would argue, it's the only tune Brent wrote that could stand up with the Dead's earlier catalog.
I have nothing against Touch-heads. I myself was too young to see the Dead. I like to think that this removes the attendance bias factor from my ability to objectively assess shows.
80s and 90s Dead is still the Dead, and I love it, purchase it, and listen to it. But let's not pretend that "all eras are equal". Opinions are just that; opinions. But the opinion that the 80s are the peak era is a very, very minority one.
Popularity has everything to do with it. The biggest difference is that from 1987 through 1990, all of the Grateful Dead albums that came out with Brent onboard sold either gold, or in the case of In The Dark, multi-platinum. That's where the demand was, and always will be. It was on the strength of that time frame that led to the success of their previous albums and even their current catalog still to this day. Even the success of "Sunshine Daydream" is compared to their first since '87, and I could safely argue, because of '87.
Someone had mentioned their hatred towards "When Push Comes To Shove", an excellent Grateful Dead blues song, or "Blow Away, another excellent blues song. I would take both of those songs over "Sunrise", Heart of Me" an "France" 1,000,000 out of 1,000,000 times (or whatever gauge that person used to express hostility towards the '80s).
The high concert attendance for '94/'95 was entirely riding the coat tails of their successes with Brent, and yes, the '80s. The sole reason that so many '70s shows are currently released is because of their commercial success from the '80s.
Mr. Jack Straw - sarcasm noted. So you hate Brent and his song "Don't Need Love", another excellent Grateful Dead blues song. Are you one of those people who deeply despise and begrudge "Touch Heads", despite that all of the musical riches you reap today are entirely because of their influx into the scene?
It's one thing to have a favorite era, everybody has one. It's another thing for tptb to deny official representation from the most critically acclaimed and successful era in favor of personal favorites, which I believe is short-sighted from a business point of view.
A final point in this post - I'm generally happy with the picks, even if they are almost entirely one-sided choices that I believe should be spread out for the sake of wider era representation. I have a short enough attention span as it is, ad if they stick to being predominant in releasing mostly one era, while virtually ignoring the other 22 years, I'll get bored with it.
May 14th '74 is a great show that I'm well familiar with and think is a worthy choice. Light years better than nearly half of the picks in the current series thus far. Why they would pick 4/24/78, with the meat of the show being Saturday Night Fever teases on the cowboy Bob tunes, over, say, most of the '80s Greek shows, Oxford Plains '88, Red Rocks '87 ect as a few examples, seems odd to me.
Just tuned in to find out about this. Can't wait to renew my subscription, one of the best deals going for Dead music, always a thrill to get a clean, quality version of a random show in the mail. I'm still excited about Vol. 7. I'm ready for more and have aquired a new taste for 1984. '84 Heads, I'm on the bus!
Sometimes those were the best releases, but it always leaves you wondering about the other songs that were not included. I am happy with the 74' release. Although I still want to hear an official 84' or 86' release. Some of the Bird Songs from that era have a great vibe to them. 74' is a top year musically and improvisation wise. Other suggestions is please listen to 2nd set of 10-29-73 and 10-30-73. Some great stuff. The jam on 10-29-73 reminded me of some music from 69' . Dave also mentions he gave Dick a list of 10 shows from Fall 73' and Dick responded by giving him a box with all 10 shows. 10-29 and 10-30 being part of those 2.
5-1-70 could be a show to watch out for in future releases and I hope the 74' playin is as good as the Venetta PITB, that is a tall order though
...that's valid. Though you sure don't mind whining about it (not fair, I'm guilty of that, too -- with the complete-show-demanders & where's-my-order-ers ad nauseum).
But spare the thin arguments about the tape vault, being patient (after more than a dozen years) or what you feel I should already be satisfied with.
I'm happy for the Vault, God Bless David, but his vocation wouldn't exist without us, either. And I've been supporting him & dead.net generously with my wallet and with many, many positive comments & nuanced reviews since before the previous decade.
And let's be clear ~ Deadheads have never been an easy-going lot :) Maybe at the Haight 65-67 & Springfield Creamery. But an unbroken chain around the sun? You know better than that ;)
It's okay to complain here, it's a GD forum after all. This is the place to get your opinion heard. No one is killing my buzz over this hot release; the passion shown here for music made 20-40some years ago is awesome.
I would respectfully disagree with Spacebro and some of the other vocal minority who prefer 80s shows. Actually, I think Spacebro has mentioned before that he likes all eras but to suggest that there are shows from the 80s that are as good as the best shows from 70-74 is pretty far fetched and possibly even ridiculous.
Don't get me wrong. I would welcome a DaPick from say, 84 or 87 but that doesn't mean any possible release from those years would be better than the Portland 74 show that was mentioned recently here. That would be my choice for DaP 10, but imagine the uproar back to back 74 releases would cause.
Anyone else have a particular love for that Portland 74 show?
51 in between with 18 JGB
Wish I was a bit older to this day, to of caught Brent or even Keith......Hornsby was always spectacular though.
Easygoing Deadheads? I refer you to the Grateful Dead Movie and the guy ranting about the film crews and people in the audience getting paid for their time. :-)
Damn I love that.
Here is another old saying: If you can't spot the donkey at the table . . .
Just one last question that I hope will add some clarity to this "discussion." What was your first Grateful Dead concert? Be honest now.
And while you ponder the response, be sure to study up on those utility curves.
now what were we discussing? oh yeah, Gainesville ....
and speaking of everyday life, where I come from at least, people don't talk to each other like that or they might catch a beating. Its pretty easy to be more aggressive than a public social situation will allow when your sitting behind a computer a few hundred miles away from the next person.
I just hate hearing deadheads bitch and whine. we used to be an easy going lot. maybe we all need to head to mexico for the Furthur finale and wrestle it out. peace
my first post I believe I use the term Mydland era......then yes, I was broad with Eighties heads, I apologize. But most of us are sick of hearing the whining about what Dave is releasing for us. We have heard you, so has he, move on. My jumping around from 1980 to 1990 and saying it was different was not in line with my whining comment. 1983, 84,85 will get there due if Dave wants to PICK them, when you want to send me copies of good mid eighties shows remastered, I am ready.
Wow, you all are harshing out my buzz, man! I would like some mid-80s releases, there is obviously a hole in our collections there. That said, I believe another hole is the Wall of Sound 1974 tour with only one full show released to date (not counting the Cow Palace test show) and I am happy with this release. I missed out on Dave's 2, so this one will be a nice addition.
I was disappointed with Dave's 7-- fairly pedestrian show from my ears-- and Dave's 8 setlist just does not stir me. So, this 1974 show will definitely be something different, which is welcome. I look forward to #10 which will likely be from the 1969-71 period (love me some Pigpen), but after that I hope 11-12 are Brent era from the mid to late 1980s or a 1981 show with a kickin' Alabama Getaway opener.
Some criticism is warranted with Dave's selections so far (even 70s fans need to recognize that the 9 releases so far are tilted one way), but the way this conversation has devolved is a bit much.
A Greek Box-- now you are talking!
they could solve this by having a paypal payment option. they get their money now, those with expiring cards down the road don't have to worry. win/win.
I think that Dave must be holding off on the releases from the 1980s out of pure spite. After all, he stated in one of his Seaside Chats that his primary obligation as Archivist is to upset Spacebro, Patagonian Fox, and the huge ranks of 80's enthusiasts. He's definitely not putting out what supply and demand dictate. If he were, we'd have gotten hours upon hours of plinky keyboard sounds from 1979-1982, froggy Garcia vocals from 84-85, and Weir's buzzsaw guitar tone from the 1990s. His focus on the 70s is depriving us of classics such as Day Job, Man Smart, When Push Comes to Shove, Easy Answers, Wave to the Wind, Samba in the Rain...the list goes on and on.
I also suspect that aside from spite, DL2 must not know what he's doing, or what sells. After all, he only has 20 years of data on archival releases to draw from, as well as sales numbers. I mean, the Europe '72 Box (yawn) is still available from dead.net. They're practically giving them away. Meanwhile, that Spring 1990 box sold out in a matter of 5 days. He's also fortunate enough to have to report to bosses at Rhino who don't care to turn a profit on all these untapped versions of Don't Need Love. They're clearly just catering to their buddies, just like that ol' Latvala guy.
Like someone suggested earlier, the most attended concerts occurred late in the band's career, and therefore must be the best. That means that 1995 is better than 1990, which is better than 1980, which is better than 1973 (except for their brief Watkin's Glen surge in popularity). However, Justin Bieber outsells all of those, so he must be better than the Dead. It's obvious!
Count this Deadhead as grateful for DL2's selective ears.
I was just looking at the road trips and noticed that the 93 and 88 shows were sold out and the 69 and two 71 shows were not does any one no how many copies of these shows were printed
If you make posts intended to stir up shit, you're a troll. Makes no difference if you understand that or not. Maybe that's the worst kind of troll: a person that doesn't believe he's a troll even though his sole purpose for making posts is to start arguments.
In everyday life, we call these people assholes. These people generally suck.
Another reason I'm excited about the 5/14/74 release: It is sandwiched between the more famous Reno (5/12) and Portland (5/19) shows. So you can't say it's obscure I guess (nothing in 74 would be), but it sort of is, relatively speaking. Right now I'm listening to the jam out of Truckin' from Portland... gosh. There is a rather distinct tight feel to the May 74 shows, and this is the first to see release, and it is not the one people would have expected. I call that a good pick.
Keith on the Fender Rhodes, Fall 72 - 75, can do no wrong. Especially in 74-75.
I'm also jazzed about the impending arrival of Dave's 8.
Coco Phil - exactly right. Cosmic B - "just be nice" - perfect. You are the master of concise.
EDIT - I've now gotten to the Not Fade Away in Portland... haven't listened to this show in years. Why didn't I remember what a mindfuckingly good version of NFA this? Skronk, utter skronk. Billy, jesus man.
While the Grateful Dead were best in the 1980s, I think we can all agree that Jerry was most on fire in the late '90s. I remember seeing him in 1998, and the jamming between Jerry and Bobby was amazing.
When Brent left the band in 2000, they started to go downhill again. I always think of early 2000s like the early to mid 70s--that is, a little dry, unexperimental, and repetitive.
Why is everyone focused on the mid 80s and early 90s instead of the late 90s?
Next to Obamacare, the subscription is the best deal on the planet
GREEK BOX SET.
It surprises me than no Greek show has been released. 27 total, 81% of which I count as winners. There's even a Dark Star in there.
Cast aside your differences and bad vibes, everyone, and concentrate really hard: GREEK BOX SET.
everyone wins, everyone happy.
So, doctor, you accuse "Eighties Heads" of memory loss because they think an '80 release is different from an '84-85. Then you send them back to their Spring '90 box, and if we don't like that, "It'd be like late 70's head beggin for some 77."
Then your next statement is, "73 and 74 are nothing a like, same with 77-78 , and other two year stretches."
The irony boggles the mind.......
Last word, then I'll leave my (MID-)80's soapbox for the duration of this thread. No need to keep reminding us about the quality of 80's tapes. We've all heard it, and get it. Check your Deadbase and see how many shows were played between 1983 & 1987 (or even just 84 & 85) and tell me that in THIRTEEN YEARS since Dick's 21 not a single other worthy tape/performance combo could be located. We even had several years of Road Trips, where best bits could've been culled from throughout a stand or a tour.
As Spacebro said: baloney. With spoiled mayonaisse.
Nevermind. Sorry. My two cents didn't make the cut.
Iowa is kinda like a cave, but its home. Never heard that quote, and it was perfect. Pfox, you just kinda stick out on here, we all have opinions, but yours are abrasive most the time, and you do seem to have an entitled sense about you, but as for my comment earlier, I think you just need a friend, so good luck with all that. Don't listen to too much 70's, count your cash, fast forward through Ripple and you should be happy.
There is a road, no simple highway
Between the dawn and the dark of night
And if you go no one may follow
That path is for your steps alone
That is all from me on this subject.
No problem. Anytime.
spacebro- The popularity of the band and the size of the audience really don't say much about the quality of the music. If so, then obviously any show from 94-95 would be better than any of the Fillmore East/West 1970 shows (absurd). For some reason many musicians/bands make their best music before they hit the big time. I don't know why. Maybe they need to be struggling and have nothing to lose. Also, I strongly suspect many, many concert-goers in the 80's and 90's were casual fans and never became collectors (like most of us here).
I think the reason DaP8 sold out so quickly is now everyone knows all the picks will sell out and will be more expensive later on and/or have good resale value. I'd be very surprised if any post hiatus show would outsell a pre-hiatus on an equal footing (i.e. without subscription).
Still, I am looking forward to DaP8. A 1980 show will be a nice change of pace.
Turn on some tunes. You'll feel better.
do you live in a cave?
its an old saying, and clever antidotes don't always make for a cohesive argument.
i have a degree in economics (not accounting). i know how to measure wealth.
AJS........I am stealing that quote about third base. Hilarious.
1. there are plenty of animals more regal than humans.
2. any fool can quote mark twain.
You obviously didn't take the time to read my post.
You sound like the kind of person who was born on third base in life and thinks he hit a triple. Be careful how you measure wealth my friend.
“Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference.”
― Mark Twain
Not choosing sides, general statement.
Now for something completely off-topic, I ordered the subscription and I think 74 is a good choice. I was actually hoping for a 74 and/or 73 box set this year.
that last statement is trolling,
for the record drshakedown; i am rich, and while i'm not a perfect person, i'm not going to apologize for that, so let me just say, as simply as i can… EXPRESSING AN OPINION YOU DON'T AGREE WITH IS NOT TROLLING!
when i said i hated the song 'ripple' people got all upset, even though its only my opinion, but then when others say they hate the last 15 years of the grateful dead's career nobody seems to care, because it wasn't me who said it. you need to put your feelings aside. either you agree with what people say, or you don't. it shouldn't matter who says it.
not one person, who called me a troll, even responded to my point that releases compiled of partial shows are just as good if not better than whole shows (dick's picks 12 > dave's picks 2). if you don't want to debate point for point thats fine, but you're not going to paint me as the bad guy, just because you need someone to hate.
personally, i think the direction dave's picks has taken is blatantly disrespectful, and i really don't care if me saying so ruins your buzz. deal with it. this forum is a great reminder that the grateful dead ruled, but their fans sucked. go back to your VW busses, smoke some weed, and stink up the joint.
We all need to remember how lucky we are to have Rhino, Dave and THE VAULT. No other band in history has the legacy the Grateful Dead have. They had the foresight to tape their shows, then archive them. Now shows are taken out and made to sound as best as technically possible, then mailed to our mailboxes, we don't even have to drive to the record store. All the complaining and whining is pathetic. Imagine if the vault did not exist, then this website would be really nothing special, but it is special. We get new shows, box sets every year, then starting tomorrow we get free music all month. The Tapers Section has music to stream every week for FREE! So please stop all this complaining. There is one troll among us that needs to simply move on, you know who you are.
Dave's Picks is really just beginning, only two years in. I'm sure there will be plenty of releases from many eras along the way. Remember a few years ago when all the legal stuff was going down, we did not get anything at all. Now we are getting a lot, Jerry's vault is putting out releases at a nice pace. We all have much to be grateful for heading into 2014. Dave is doing a great job, I'm thankful for everything we get. Dave spends a lot time working on things for us, so please cut him a little slack. Sorry folks, just needed to get that off my chest.
I get more enjoyment listening to GD when I know I have the full show in hand. I love drums and space too but its really about the flow of the entire show and how they build up to the biggest jams. Its one large time stamp in history.
To all out there im still looking for a soundboard of 2-25-95 my BD show or 6-3-95 my last show would gladly trade anyone of daves picks1-8 or i would buy 9 if wanted that one thanks
Well its been a long strange trip to say the least,,,1968 if my memory serves me well,,,when The Greatfull Dead came rolling into my head and soul,,,,,,danced mant a streets , concert halls , fields of green grass/dirt and polo fields would love to do it all over agian,,,,,,,
You know its perfectly possible to express a passionately held opinion without being rude to other people. Calling them idiots, snobs etc or even trolls. If folks here were discussing the Dead in the queue to a show would they be calling eachother names?
just be nice
and anyone who disagrees with me is a .... :-)
The fox is rich y'all.
As for this comment... "some of us, who were hoping for an '80s show, were upset with the release"
There will be an 80's show in the mail in 2 days. Wow, short term memory for these Eighties Heads.
Give your 1990 box another listen or wait 2 days.
It'd be like late 70's head beggin for some 77.
Lastly: 73 and 74 are nothing a like, same with 77-78 , and other two year stretches. Listen, the time signatures, song selection, vocals, tape quality, venue sound, not to mention what magic J. Norman is mixing, it seems all very new each time for me and my friends.
Maybe you need a new Macintosh receiver or another set of speakers, but what it seems like you need is a friend. Please leave your vast wealth and constant negativity at the door and go see some shows, meet some folks, and enjoy your journey. Peace
Not trying to be contrary, but I believe Dick was not trying to win any popularity contests when he released his picks. He did pick his favorites, as the title of the series suggests. I think Dave has been a bit more open to the general opinion of Heads.
I agree, more 80's would be great, and I am thrilled with any news of an 80's release. But, I will enjoy whatever is released. If I am not that thrilled, it can be a rainy day listen.
This is one release for the year in this series. There will also be two box sets in 2014. Let's keep our fingers crossed for some prime 80's, and I am sure we will be graced with some nice early and mid era as well.
You are trolling. I was in the process of essentially writing the same thing when Star Dark posted. You are under no obligation to purchase these subscriptions. You certainly spend enough time on this site to buy the individual copies without the risk of them selling out. In the mean time, go pester U2 about releasing some 80s shows.
My sentiments exactly. I have been a long time advocate for a release of 10/12/1984. From what I read, the tape has some pretty bad cuts. Nevertheless, even a bonus disc with parts of the show would be great, as long as it included from Uncle Johns on out. Laughing a bit as well as I was listening to the 5/19/74 Truckin on the way into work today. Nice stuff.
I notice that a lot of anti-80's hostility is starting to creep back into the discussions here and the notion of subpar performances or lack of releasable recordings from the middle of the decade is pure BS. Dave's Picks numbers 1, 3 and 7 are very sub par average shows that may be somebodies favorites because they either attended them or only like that particular era, yet they were officially released.
I've read interviews with both, Bob Weir and Phil Lesh where they say that they don't suggest what shows to release and even seldom give input or a final say as to what gets released. This leads me to believe that those of the inner circle who are deciding what to release are only picking their own personal favorites, or shows they themselves attended. I often refer people who only like a select era as tape snobs.
I can understand that there has to be a criteria met for shows to be released, and if they opt to not release, say an '84 show, because Jerry botched the lyrics to a song, just listen to 5/14/74 on the Archive and pay particular attention to Bob screwing up the lyrics to Black Throated Wind, the sad amateur hour performance of Must Have been The Roses or the terrible mix on the opening Bertha. Don't get me wrong, 5/14/74 is still legendary show, and the meat of it, WRS>DS>CD makes this a worthy release. The Playing In The Band is quite awesome as well. Fast forward 10 years to the '84 Greek, or any of the Summer run for that matter, and what you get are a Grateful Dead that sounds contemporary, tight, energetic, a few botched lyrics here and there (like they did during every era of their touring existence) and some of Jerry's best guitar work of his entire career.
A number of people have stated that they don't particularly care for the second half of the Deads career, and whether it's because they got on and off the bus before hand, or attended "x" amount of shows in one era and "x" amount of another era, are either short changing themselves from the half of the bigger picture or/and are snobs.
I revert back to the obvious...the biggest audience, most commercial success and arguably best shows of their entire career, and demand for the Deads music is in the '80s. The first clue should be the record rapid sell out of Dave's Picks 8.
This is speculation, but perhaps the real reason they are holding off on more '80s releases is when they increase the numbers of picks annually (12k for 2012, 13k for 2013, 14k for 2014 ect) is because they anticipate a massive influx of interest for later era shows when they increase the numbers that will be available. A lot more people are going to get a lot more enjoyment from Red Rocks '87 or Laguna Seca '88 than they are Horton Field House '78.
you think i'm trolling? you think i'm negative? i'm not the one who said they dislike the last 15 years of a band we're supposed to be celebrating. that is negative. for the record; the jubilation comment was directed at those who relished in the fact that some of us, who were hoping for an '80s show, were upset with the release, not necessarily those who were happy with the dave's picks 9 selection. (i.e. stoltzfus)
my main points: whole shows are overrated. sometimes you can get better releases from partials (dick's picks 12 > dave's picks 2). i also want different sh!t. is it really too much to ask to get some stuff from other years?
as for star dark, who took it upon himself to attack me personally; let me just say, you don't know me. honestly, money isn't an issue, so it really doesn't matter what they release. i can buy it all, even if its nothing more than iTunes fodder.
This has been one of my favorite '74 shows for a long time. I just listened to this and Portland, 5/19 recently because Dave had mentioned the latter show in some context. I thought that 5/19 would come out before Montana, but I'm very happy with this release.
I'd love to 2/15/73 released as well - another favorite of mine.
I'm looking forward to the new 69-71 reel return releases as well. If these are anything like DaP 3 & 6 I'll be uber-pumped.
Dave was on Tales from the Golden Road recently and said there isn't much '67 in vault, as in almost none.
A lot of folks are disappointed about the lack of 80s releases, and I can empathize with that, however, it is important to remember that those recordings often have a lot working against them. With Betty, Kidd, Bear, et al manning the tape machines in the 60s and 70s the sheer number of quality tapes is likely greater for the 70s and is certainly a factor for release.
It's tough not knowing what exactly is in the vault and in what quality, but I guess that's life. The listening party for DaP8 sounds awesome and I hope that Jeffery Norman can leverage the matrix again to piece together 10/12/84. I'm sure a lot of people can get behind that. Perhaps I'll send a note to Dave to see what he has to say about that....